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 Canadavey
   
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Location: York Region
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 |  |  | Chef Broyardee Boiler
< on 4/27/2011 7:12 PM >
|  | | | This shot was taken at a Food Processing Plant in Niagara Falls which is currently being demolished.
Tv( Shutter Speed ) 1.3
Av( Aperture Value ) 9.0
ISO Speed 100
Lens Sigma 18-200mm
Focal Length 18.0mm
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marsrover
Gender: Male
Exploring is for hipsters!
| | Re: Chef Broyardee Boiler
<Reply # 2 on 4/27/2011 8:17 PM >
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same
seems like this picture is missing depth or something... not sure what though.
So i'm just pokeing around, are you gona do anything about it. |
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Derail6782
Location: Pittsburgh
Gender: Male
| | Re: Chef Broyardee Boiler
<Reply # 3 on 4/27/2011 8:40 PM >
| | | | Posted by marsrover
same
seems like this picture is missing depth or something |
Yeah, I would have focused on an interesting part of the picture and used a large aperture (1.8. 2.8) and blurred the background. THere's almost too much going on to really catch your eye.
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Garutachi
 
Location: MA
Gender: Female
| | Re: Chef Broyardee Boiler
<Reply # 4 on 4/27/2011 9:29 PM >
| | | | I agree with above statements. Maybe get in closer, focus on that hat cause it's a cool little detail and get rid of the stairs and distracting junk around the machine.
"The Earth is not my home, I'm just passing by." -Tom Waits |
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atomx
  
Location: Brighton, ON
Gender: Male
| | | Re: Chef Broyardee Boiler
<Reply # 5 on 4/27/2011 9:59 PM >
| | | | I agree with all above.
Plus, you can set the scene a little.
Open both the doors, move the hard hat, etc, make it interesting.
And yes, narrow the DOF.
[last edit 4/27/2011 9:59 PM by atomx - edited 1 times]
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subtilis
Location: Providence, RI
Gender: Male
UER's Resident Mycologist
| | Re: Chef Broyardee Boiler
<Reply # 6 on 4/27/2011 11:40 PM >
| | | | The stairs on the left. They are very bright and in focus. They draw your eye from the boiler off to the left of the shot, which removes you from the subject. It should either be darker than the subject, or not in focus. OR you could tale a step back, include the stirs in the subject, and use the blurring of being out of focus or darkening to keep this new bigger subject the center of attention, since at that point the catwalk on the left and teh wall on the right will be drawing attention =D
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insanebuslady
Location: ?
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"You talkin' to me?"
| |  | Re: Chef Broyardee Boiler
<Reply # 7 on 4/28/2011 12:59 AM >
| | | | Not bad. Using a tight aperture will make it sharp, which it is. It looks like you lost some detail in uploading/resizing
It's nice and level, but I'd make the composition moer interesting. Also, if you are going to use a watermark, make it more subtle
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Canadavey
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Location: York Region
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| | | Re: Chef Broyardee Boiler
<Reply # 8 on 4/28/2011 2:27 AM >
| | | | Posted by insanebuslady
Not bad. Using a tight aperture will make it sharp, which it is. It looks like you lost some detail in uploading/resizing
It's nice and level, but I'd make the composition moer interesting. Also, if you are going to use a watermark, make it more subtle
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Thanks!
Yes, there is a difference in image quality from how the image sits on my desktop vs. how it appears on here. Composition was tricky with the lens I was using vs what little space was available to maneuver in. I took a shot @ 10mm but it introduces a whole new layer of distractions and distortion that I really didn't like on the shot.
For the other comments regarding DoF, it's really hard to control that at a wide angle with something more than 5 feet away. Even if the lens had an aperture of 2.8 it still would have a rather large field at about 13 feet. So unless I blurred in post, the shot is what it is.
Thanks everyone for your feedback!
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MHInc
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Location: Niagara Falls, Ontario Canada
Gender: Male
| | | Re: Chef Broyardee Boiler
<Reply # 9 on 4/28/2011 1:15 PM >
| | | | Posted by Canadavey
For the other comments regarding DoF, it's really hard to control that at a wide angle with something more than 5 feet away. Even if the lens had an aperture of 2.8 it still would have a rather large field at about 13 feet. So unless I blurred in post, the shot is what it is.
Thanks everyone for your feedback!
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Agreed,
And for those that think EDITING in a blur is a good idea, it's not! It looks stupid, I am not going to get into examples I have seen lately, but seeing one small focal point on an object and then using PS to blur the SHIT out of the rest of the pic is stupid. In fact it makes me nauseated to LOOK at so much blur!
MH Inc. Photography Canada
http://www.mhinccanada.com
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kevinblahh
Location: STRANDED IN KPPC
Gender: Male
exploring is stupid.
| | Re: Chef Broyardee Boiler
<Reply # 10 on 4/28/2011 2:28 PM >
| | | | exposure is right on, i think whats killing this is how close you are, if you stepped back and had all of the stairs on the left included, this would probably look better.
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Canadavey
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Location: York Region
Gender: Male
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| | | Re: Chef Broyardee Boiler
<Reply # 11 on 4/28/2011 7:59 PM >
| | | | Re-done in all it's post processed glory...
Background blurred, background exposure decreased and lighting adjusted for focal point. For me this picture now presents an over-processed, underexposed un-natural looking image. No thanks!
Post by kevinblahh
exposure is right on, i think whats killing this is how close you are, if you stepped back and had all of the stairs on the left included, this would probably look better. |
Agreed! What spoils that shot is the 1.5' section of wall that juts out in front of the stairs. If I could have got between that small section of wall and the stairs and still got the whole Boiler I definitely would have walked away with a shot exactly like what you mentioned. Thanks for your feedback!
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Lily White
Location: Rhode Island/NY/Nola
Gender: Male
Im drunk..
| | | Re: Chef Broyardee Boiler
<Reply # 12 on 4/28/2011 8:40 PM >
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bahaha^
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Corporal_Clegg
Location: Baltimore, MD
Gender: Male
| | | | Re: Chef Broyardee Boiler
<Reply # 13 on 4/29/2011 3:54 AM >
| | | | The only thing I ask myself is, Why did you take this picture? Just seems documentary to me.
Maybe a different angle (or farther away, already been said) ? I dunno just a boring piece of equipment in a factory.
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Canadavey
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| | | Re: Chef Broyardee Boiler
<Reply # 14 on 4/29/2011 4:37 PM >
| | | | Posted by Corporal_Clegg
The only thing I ask myself is, Why did you take this picture? Just seems documentary to me. Maybe a different angle (or farther away, already been said) ? I dunno just a boring piece of equipment in a factory. |
Post by Canadavey
Composition was tricky with the lens I was using vs what little space was available to maneuver in. |
And isn't the whole point of photography to DOCUMENT things? While the storyline of this particular photograph may not cover a lot of detail, I worked with what I had at the time. Anyone offering an educated critique would have read what I previously posted and taken that into consideration.
For info on how to critique like you have two brain cells to rub together;
http://www.uer.ca/...d=1&threadid=88963
I find it funny how THREE people out of the entire UER community responded to this. Knowing that and seeing what kind of feedback is given for Critiques really puts a lot of users into perspective around here.
CHILDREN
Which is why I know think of the UER Forums as Romper Room.
Everyone except; Tullo, lilywhitebloodred and Corporal Clegg, thanks for the feedback.
[last edit 4/29/2011 4:39 PM by Canadavey - edited 1 times]
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willskith
Location: Boston, MA
Gender: Male
| | | | Re: Chef Broyardee Boiler
<Reply # 15 on 4/29/2011 5:05 PM >
| | | | Selective DOF in post processing is tacky, and it especially doesn't work well when you are blurring out things that are on the same point of the focal plane as what you are keeping in focus. Kevin is right, having the stairs cut off is majorly distracting. It should be either tighter for detail or wider for sense of scale and context.
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MHInc
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Location: Niagara Falls, Ontario Canada
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| | | Re: Chef Broyardee Boiler
<Reply # 16 on 4/29/2011 6:37 PM >
| | | | Posted by willskith
Selective DOF in post processing is tacky, and it especially doesn't work well when you are blurring out things that are on the same point of the focal plane as what you are keeping in focus. Kevin is right, having the stairs cut off is majorly distracting. It should be either tighter for detail or wider for sense of scale and context.
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That was his point to begin with from what I can see... The only reason he DID the post process BLUR was to shut the morons up that don't get that you can't get the kind of DoF they were looking for with the 10-20mm, and seem to think Bluring out the ass is cool from things like a Lens baby!
MH Inc. Photography Canada
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Garutachi
Location: MA
Gender: Female
| | Re: Chef Broyardee Boiler
<Reply # 17 on 4/29/2011 7:37 PM >
| | | | Posted by Canadavey
And isn't the whole point of photography to DOCUMENT things? While the storyline of this particular photograph may not cover a lot of detail, I worked with what I had at the time. Anyone offering an educated critique would have read what I previously posted and taken that into consideration.
For info on how to critique like you have two brain cells to rub together;
http://www.uer.ca/...d=1&threadid=88963
I find it funny how THREE people out of the entire UER community responded to this. Knowing that and seeing what kind of feedback is given for Critiques really puts a lot of users into perspective around here.
CHILDREN
Which is why I know think of the UER Forums as Romper Room.
Everyone except; Tullo, lilywhitebloodred and Corporal Clegg, thanks for the feedback.
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Precisely why I don't put much of my stuff here. I'm lucky that I get real critiques in a class room environment and sometimes certain Flickr groups can be helpful. Here it seems like most people care more about saying what they think will make them sound cool to their special little group of friends. After what I've been reading lately, I think I'm about ready to give up on this section of UER all together. It seems to be a giant waste of time. Sad.
"The Earth is not my home, I'm just passing by." -Tom Waits |
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Corporal_Clegg
Location: Baltimore, MD
Gender: Male
| | | | Re: Chef Broyardee Boiler
<Reply # 18 on 4/29/2011 9:53 PM >
| | | | Sorry guy, didn't mean to rustle your jimmies.
Just skimming through your Flickr and seen this:
http://www.flickr....313/in/photostream
Much better angle of that same piece of equipment, you condensed the scene and came out with a much better shot. Gave us less to look at.
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Don't take things so personal dude, it's been a good 2 years since I've posted on this site and it's been a long time since I've given a photo critique. Doing shit for the military takes up a good majority of my time (which must explain why I don't have 2 brain cells to rub together)
Just giving my feedback man, maybe if you had posted that second photo I could have given better feedback.
Also this is badass:
http://www.flickr....613/in/photostream
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atomx
Location: Brighton, ON
Gender: Male
| | | Re: Chef Broyardee Boiler
<Reply # 19 on 4/30/2011 7:04 PM >
| | | | Posted by Garutachi
Precisely why I don't put much of my stuff here. I'm lucky that I get real critiques in a class room environment and sometimes certain Flickr groups can be helpful. Here it seems like most people care more about saying what they think will make them sound cool to their special little group of friends. After what I've been reading lately, I think I'm about ready to give up on this section of UER all together. It seems to be a giant waste of time. Sad.
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It's a forum called Photo Critiques. . .
Its a place to be critiqued. To help, to advance, to improve. If you don't want any help don't put anything up here.
I don't put much up here either, but I should do some. If I like a shot I took, and think it could be better, but I don't know how then . . .
And yes people should do a little more 'critiquing'.
http://www.pixiq.c...g-a-photo-critique
We all have stuff to learn, and develop our own way.
It's also a place where you can feel good about yourself if you need it.
"Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." - Richard Cook |
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