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 NoSuchPerson
      
Stop, or I'll ask you again!
 |  | Re: My personal UE ethics
<Reply # 100 on 5/7/2004 8:22 AM >
|  | | | Yes, you could win, of course.
But, let's see. Here's a time frame:
February 28th, you get arrested.
Your first appearance is in the end of March
Your pretrial is end of May
Then, your plea is entered the end of July.
Then, your trial is the beginning of September.
So that's 7 months until it's over with. That's 7 months YOU ARE IN JAIL for, only to be found innocent.
How do I know? It happened to me.
-Ex
Unit calling radio say again? |
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Mike Dijital
    
UEDB Moderator
Location: Boston MA.
Gender: Male
UE ver. 1.0
| |  | Re: My personal UE ethics
<Reply # 101 on 5/7/2004 7:12 PM >
|  | | | Posted by Ninjalicious
You make it sound like no one has the right to criticize any behaviour they've ever engaged in themselves. This isn't right. I've done a lot of things in my life that I now realize were wrong and regret, including stealing, vandalizing, lying, cheating and all that stuff. Fortunately, my ethics are little more highly developed now then they were when I was a teenager.
Ninj
http://www.infiltration.org
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THis is why your Ninj and im Dijital.
im just not going to hide my ethics. im not proud or ashamed of how I conduct myself within the ruins.
I just do whatever I want I guess. Funny thing, for as wild as I have conducted myself. the only thing I ever got caught, and in trouble for was the one Law everyone agrees is ok to break
Trespassing
Ironic, don't you think.
[last edit 5/7/2004 7:14 PM by Mike Dijital - edited 1 times]
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SnArF
| | Re: My personal UE ethics
<Reply # 102 on 5/7/2004 7:15 PM >
| | | | same here, the only thing I do is Tresspass. I also drink a half cup of straight-up vinegar before every exploration. Just a ritual. People are not supposed to go in these locations, thats why the people leave all their stuff behind. Stealing is Stealing no matter what form you do it.
EDIT- And smoking inside a drain? Very bad Idea. Hell, same with buildings. If your going to use tabacco, do what I do. Chew some Copenhagen. I dont smoke...
[last edit 5/7/2004 7:53 PM by SnArF - edited 1 times]
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Mancubus
| | Re: My personal UE ethics
<Reply # 103 on 5/7/2004 8:35 PM >
| | | | Posted by SnArF
same here, the only thing I do is Tresspass. I also drink a half cup of straight-up vinegar before every exploration. Just a ritual. People are not supposed to go in these locations, thats why the people leave all their stuff behind. Stealing is Stealing no matter what form you do it.
EDIT- And smoking inside a drain? Very bad Idea. Hell, same with buildings. If your going to use tabacco, do what I do. Chew some Copenhagen. I dont smoke...
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Vinegar? Any reason how that came to be?
Also, dip some grizzly wintergreen. 3 bucks a tin and it's stronger than Cope.
Oh yeah, and leaves your breath minty fresh.
[last edit 5/7/2004 8:36 PM by Mancubus - edited 1 times]
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uem-Wotan
Noble Donor
Location: Montreal
Gender: Male
| | | Re: My personal UE ethics
<Reply # 104 on 5/7/2004 10:13 PM >
|  | | | Posted by Mike Dijital
I just do whatever I want I guess. Funny thing, for as wild as I have conducted myself. the only thing I ever got caught, and in trouble for was the one Law everyone agrees is ok to break
Trespassing
Ironic, don't you think. |
Considering that you think ethics is about "not getting caught", yes, it is indeed pretty ironic that you're trying to tell other people they're wrong.
Asbestos, schmestos! |
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earthworm
Location: General Area
Gender: Male
| | Re: My personal UE ethics
<Reply # 105 on 5/8/2004 2:53 AM >
| | | | What about dumpster diving? I mean thats close to thieft as well, and it makes it so they get locks on them if you make a mess. I think it really should be up to the situation and not blanket statements like theift is good or bad. Just be smart if ethics are to be bent. Hell if there weren't any tagging in drains would they be as fun? Come on relax a little, but don't be stupid about in your explorations. Meh...
Tourism, human circulation considered as consumption is fundamentally nothing more than the leisure of going to see what has become banal. |
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uem-Wotan
Noble Donor
Location: Montreal
Gender: Male
| | | Re: My personal UE ethics
<Reply # 106 on 5/8/2004 3:32 AM >
| | | | Posted by earthworm
What about dumpster diving? I mean thats close to thieft as well, and it makes it so they get locks on them if you make a mess. |
Dumpster diving is not part of UE. I doubt you visit dumpsters to satisfy your intellectual curiosity or to take cool pictures of them. I mean, there is no other goal to dumpster diving than to find and bring home items - unless you're the kind of diver who just likes to see cool trash and leaves it there. I'm not familiar enough with dumpster diving to know if such people exist.
Posted by earthworm
I think it really should be up to the situation and not blanket statements like theift is good or bad. |
A lot of people would argue that ethics is about duties, and that duties do not depend on the situation. There is a multitude of opinions on the matter. Trust me, I study and teach ethics for a living.
Posted by earthworm
Hell if there weren't any tagging in drains would they be as fun? |
Yes. I really don't see why you believe "no" to be so self-evident.
Asbestos, schmestos! |
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MacGyver
Location: St Paul, Minnesota
Gender: Male
"Someone go find me a paperclip, a D-cell battery, and a cheese grater"
| | Re: My personal UE ethics
<Reply # 107 on 5/8/2004 4:36 AM >
| | | | Posted by earthworm
Hell if there weren't any tagging in drains would they be as fun? |
You can probably argue this for boring concrete tubes, but you have to realize that not all drains are like this.
If someone tagged any of the surprisingly many spectacular drains in the Twin Cities, I would have to hunt them down and force feed them raw sewage. Probably the nice yeasty-stuff from near Stahlmann's, too.
Like a fiend with his dope / a drunkard his wine / a man will have lust for the lure of the mine
"If you are not part of the solution, you are not dissolved in the solvent." |
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Nosferatu Von
Location: Ancaster
Gender: Male
| | Re: My personal UE ethics
<Reply # 108 on 5/8/2004 7:48 AM >
| | | | Posted by uem-Wotan
I'm not familiar enough with dumpster diving to know if such people exist.
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Dumpster diving is diving into dumpsters and finding stuff to take. Popular places for DD are electronic stores, clothing stores, second hand / thrift stores, and depending on what you're looking for, medical supply facilities and labrotories.
This is done mostly for person profit. I doubt too many people do this to look at stuff alone... if you can't find anything decent to take, that's a diffrent story. This was really popular in New York int he mid - late 80s and was somewhat popular on the Hamilton west mountain when I lived there.
Just because you've never heard of a genre or whatever doesn't mean that they don't exist.
Seems your Phenomena is a Phenoma-NOT. |
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Noah Vale
Location: Portland, Or
It's nobler to never get paid, than to bank on shit and dismay
| |  | | Re: My personal UE ethics
<Reply # 109 on 5/8/2004 8:01 AM >
| | | | Thank you NVKahos for the history and meaning behind dumpster diving. We all benefit from your wisdom.
LoX0red. This thread is officially retarded.
"Dallas is a magnificent and wide open city, and I'm deeply envious of any urban explorers who have the good fortune to live there." -Ninj. |
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