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drain question
< on 1/28/2011 7:13 AM >
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ive never gone draining and dont know much about it but a question pops in my head when i think about it.
drains and pipes go to and come from somewhere and move water, some times alot, some times alittle.
-has a drain ever suddenly filled or flooded on someone before and what do they do? i know one obvious rule, avoid drains after rain.
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Re: drain question
<Reply # 1 on 1/28/2011 7:29 AM >
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Yes, and people have died.

Check the weather forecast, look at the sky, and if there's a chance of rain, wait for a more appropriate opportunity.

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Re: drain question
<Reply # 2 on 1/28/2011 7:35 AM >
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Remember once you're deep in there you could have miles to go.

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Re: drain question
<Reply # 3 on 1/28/2011 7:37 AM >
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anyone ever experienced it?
is the best reaction run like hell

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Re: drain question
<Reply # 4 on 1/28/2011 7:45 AM >
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Posted by B-rad
anyone ever experienced it?
is the best reaction run like hell


its like when i was in boy scouts and were in the middle of a canyon and all of a sudden you see rain a mile away and then you hear the rummble and next thing you know water comes pouring over the cliffs but thank God your high enough that youre not swept to your death...

water, even a little amount, cant sweep you away

go on clear day or when u know thers no rain for miles



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Re: drain question
<Reply # 5 on 1/28/2011 7:47 AM >
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I've actually never experienced it. i don't see how it would be too rewarding. unless my area has underground treasures of amazing graffiti or something. but i am thinking about checking a particular one out. good for light painting if nothing else!

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Re: drain question
<Reply # 6 on 1/28/2011 7:56 AM >
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im speaking more so of a dry day, no rain in a while and none in the future. whats the chance of choosing a drain thats connected to some far off factory or facility with active or occasional dumping or run off? be it paranoia an self preservation, i dont think i could do the tunnel thing. building are my comfort

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Re: drain question
<Reply # 7 on 1/28/2011 8:37 AM >
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I've been in a drain when a storm up north caused water to fill up our systems.

We were prolly about a 1/4 - 1/2 mile from the nearest exit, so we just got the fuck out of there as fast as we could. By the time we reached the manhole the water was about 1-2 feet deep and flowing very fast.

Scary shit. Lesson, don't even go draining if there are storms nearby, cause run off could come your way, and ruin your day!

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Re: drain question
<Reply # 8 on 1/28/2011 8:50 AM >
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Over here, there were these hipster graffiti artists setting up a party at the mouth of a big drain. They advertised "Come rain or shine." Anyway, it rained.

They had all their art crap out when the water came pouring out and washed a bunch of it away. Unfortunately not them too.

Then they were almost arrested by the police.

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Re: drain question
<Reply # 9 on 1/28/2011 8:52 AM >
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Posted by B-rad
i know one obvious rule, avoid drains after rain.


this is the first rule of the cave clan. when it rains, NO DRAINS.

think of it this way: the bigger the drain, the more water it's designed to carry and the larger the area it drains. Crystal Pepsi, for example,



drains a fair amount of north Denver (at least 20 sq mi)...plenty of feeder pipes and almost 12' of diameter. that's a lot of city blocks, especially after a big storm.

also, on the factory note, there's a drain in Denver that's used as discharge for a steam plant. in this case it's pretty easy to tell as the water in the drain is actually pretty warm.

does anyone have a link to predator's drain faq?
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Re: drain question
<Reply # 10 on 1/28/2011 9:05 AM >
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i live about an hour outside of the city of chicago in the suburbs. with that said, is it a smart assumption that there is nothing but small rain pipes by me and nothing large like the previously mentioned drains or does suburbia actually have worthy drains?

personally i think id rather explore one of the larger open drains with moving room and stuff to look at then a small narrow 2-3 foot set that has me crouched and crawling the whole time.

nice pic btw^^^
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Re: drain question
<Reply # 11 on 1/28/2011 9:17 AM >
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Two explorers were shooting a drain here two years ago when a storm hit. I talked afterwards to the one who didn't die. So, they were about a hundred yards from safety, but by the time they had the first sign of water come in past their toes, it was too late. The level rose to over chest height while they fled. One of them managed by some miracle to grab onto a pipe under a grille and scream for help before he became too weak to hold on. The other drowned, as you do in a tunnel of moving water.

In their case, the storm was forecast. It's easy to be complacent, we all do it at times, but such are the consequences if things go bad.

Anyway, on an unrelated point, here are a few shots from a couple of years ago. Note that there really isn't that much flow, but the place just fills up...







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Re: drain question
<Reply # 12 on 1/28/2011 9:29 AM >
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you dont always know what empties into the drain. thats what scares me right there. were they pushed out the outflow or how was he rescued?

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Re: drain question
<Reply # 13 on 1/28/2011 9:32 AM >
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Posted by B-rad
you dont always know what empties into the drain. thats what scares me right there. were they pushed out the outflow or how was he rescued?


The guy who survived was rescued via the grille he was under, while the other was taken off down the tunnel by the flow.

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Re: drain question
<Reply # 14 on 1/28/2011 9:58 AM >
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my other question is do the suburbs offer any real draining or is it something you need to be closer to a larger city for the large drains?

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Re: drain question
<Reply # 15 on 1/28/2011 4:45 PM >
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Posted by B-rad
my other question is do the suburbs offer any real draining or is it something you need to be closer to a larger city for the large drains?


Not necessarily, I don't know too much about draining other than what I know from poking around my home town for a few years, so take my words with a grain of salt.

I live in a suburb-ish of Dallas with about 80,000 people, I'm assuming probably a pretty close Texas copy of your town. I think more modern towns favor a few very large main drains and many small feeder pipes, and older towns favor many small drains. We've got 4 that I know of, one in each of the North, South, East, and West sides of town, and they're pretty big. I was in one yesterday checking it out, it was about 10' wide and 6' tall for about a half mile, then gradually got smaller and smaller to about 5' tall and 7' wide, then about a mile in it suddenly got a LOT smaller, about 4' wide by 4' tall... Easily explorable but I'm 6'5 and my back and neck were already hurting so I said F that, lol.

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Re: drain question
<Reply # 16 on 1/31/2011 11:54 AM >
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Posted by imprezawrxsti


this is the first rule of the cave clan. when it rains, NO DRAINS.

think of it this way: the bigger the drain, the more water it's designed to carry and the larger the area it drains. Crystal Pepsi, for example,

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2382/2264165200_36e0f4dbf5.jpg

drains a fair amount of north Denver (at least 20 sq mi)...plenty of feeder pipes and almost 12' of diameter. that's a lot of city blocks, especially after a big storm.

also, on the factory note, there's a drain in Denver that's used as discharge for a steam plant. in this case it's pretty easy to tell as the water in the drain is actually pretty warm.

does anyone have a link to predator's drain faq?


http://www.urbex.o...oach/approach.html

a lot of common sense prevails. if you are unsure, like any risky venture, go with someone with some experience.

there can be plenty of other risks besides water flushing through. in my experience i've had more issue with slippery surfaces and unknown elements below surface water than any concern with rain.

anyway, take the time to read the approach.doc. a timeless introduction to drain safety you should read religiously before heading underground.


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Re: drain question
<Reply # 17 on 2/2/2011 6:57 AM >
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Posted by imprezawrxsti
also, on the factory note, there's a drain in Denver that's used as discharge for a steam plant. in this case it's pretty easy to tell as the water in the drain is actually pretty warm.


What? really?

That proves how much of a Denver Drain Noob I am...

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Re: drain question
<Reply # 18 on 2/2/2011 1:42 PM >
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Posted by B-rad
my other question is do the suburbs offer any real draining or is it something you need to be closer to a larger city for the large drains?


I live in the Cleveland 'burbs and though I'm not familiar with any drains in Cleveland proper, there is one in my city. It's about 10-12 feet wide and about 8 feet tall and connects two small lakes. So yeah, there are some in the suburbs.

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Re: drain question
<Reply # 19 on 2/13/2011 12:03 AM >
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This is all great info, thanks much for sharing...The predator write-up is excellent.

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