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UER Forum > Archived UE Tutorials, Lessons, and Useful Info > Lockpicking (Viewed 11134 times)
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Re: Lockpicking
<Reply # 40 on 6/7/2012 6:04 PM >
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Let me just add one thing here...


If the door won't open after you unlock it, no you didn't do it wrong.

I found a locked door, but it was crappy enough that just using a screwdriver in place of a key was enough. But it didn't open. So I thought it was broken and the bolt wasn't connected to the keyhole anymore. So I knocked it off with a brick and spent the next 30 minutes struggling to get the bolt out of the door (it was the only thing that didn't come out). Instead I pushed it farther into the door frame, so I gave up and, against better judgment, smashed a window. (to be fair, all the panes were easy to remove. I just broke the wooden bits) Turns out that door I was struggling with had a 2x4 nailed across it on the inside.

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Re: Lockpicking
<Reply # 41 on 12/8/2012 11:14 AM >
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Lock Picking and Urban Exploration are both great hobbies. Would I suggest doing them together? No.
It takes way too long to learn to surreptitiously enter quickly enough to be practical.
The risk to gain ratio is stacked way to high on the trouble side.
Locks are rarely in places inconspicuous enough anyway and furthermore are often full of crud that makes them even harder or imposable to pick.
As others have mentioned there are other far easier and ethically sound methods of entry.

That said pick up a set of HPC or Peterson picks, all you really need to get started is a medium or short hook and a tension wrench. Get a few practice locks and have a good time.
Like I said both great hobbies; just don't cross the streams.





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Re: Lockpicking
<Reply # 42 on 1/26/2013 1:21 AM >
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I worked for a locksmith for three years when I was in college so I'll add my quarter's worth here. Ignore all picks except the "rake", even though its called a rake the technique its used for is called "jiggling" and is BY far the easiest and quickest picking method out there for just about everyone who's ever tried it. You can get individual picks and wrenches at www.southord.com as well as other random stuff. A simple rake pick and whatever wrench you prefer can be your best friends. You tube has several jiggling videos that should be quite useful for the beginner and then its just about practice, practice, practice as it IS a perishable skill.

As others have mentioned, if you get caught it can be a big pain in the ass and come with criminal charges so use at your own risk and for fuck's sake have a plan to ditch them at an instants notice if you need to. They are bloody cheap at southord so get a handful for this eventuality. Another thing that is great for padlocks (when they aren't all rusty and uncooperative) is padlock shims. You can get those as well at southord (by the way, I'm not advertising for them, its just a good site to get supplies) and they are a lot easier to use than picking but as the name suggests, they only work on padlocks. You will only need one, for the side of the shank that inserts in the lock body. You tube those as well for a helpful tutorial.

With any picking technique, the amount of tension you place on the wrench is CRITICAL as just a tiny bit too much or not enough can spoil a perfect execution otherwise. If after a few seconds you aren't successful then release tension and start again. Just remember to "seesaw" the pick and you'll get it.

For any detailed questions I'll reply by PM and goodluck.

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Re: Lockpicking
<Reply # 43 on 1/26/2013 7:18 AM >
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If you're gonna go w/ jiggling a good set of real bogotas from serepick.com is the best way to go. (The southords don't work as well and bend like a bitch in the hands of the heavy handed and newbies) but to any lockie raking/jiggling is cheating lol.
Downside they are a tad expensive.
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Re: Lockpicking
<Reply # 44 on 1/26/2013 8:23 AM >
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The whole idea is to open the lock, not get cool points for doing it artfully. The "handled" picks are more sturdy than the super slim ones and I've never had a problem with them, and still much less expensive than the bogota which is mostly a gimmick.

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Re: Lockpicking
<Reply # 45 on 1/26/2013 6:41 PM >
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SouthOrd have actually just released their own Bogota copy, which they have termed "Pagoda." They're not made out of titanium, don't have a nifty pistol-grip, and are certainly not hand-filed by a devoted expert, but they are extremely cheap compared to the real Bagotas. For anyone on a budget they might be worth checking out...although the quality difference is quite large.

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Re: Lockpicking
<Reply # 46 on 1/26/2013 9:21 PM >
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Hmmmm, $38 for all that crap or $1.65 for a rake pick and the quickest method out there aside from bumping. I'm just not sure about that one ;)

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Re: Lockpicking
<Reply # 47 on 1/26/2013 10:07 PM >
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The Bagota-style rake offered by SouthOrd is $5.39 plus shipping. Yes that's slightly more than a standard L or S rake costs, but the Bogota profile is superior to those or any other rake style in the majority of cases.

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Re: Lockpicking
<Reply # 48 on 1/26/2013 11:32 PM >
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I'm talking about the L rake, not the S. S's really are only good for the rake technique which takes a lot more time, the L rake is the best for jiggling and I've had great success with those for years. Ymmv

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Re: Lockpicking
<Reply # 49 on 1/27/2013 5:03 AM >
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Holy Cow, I just picked my first lock. I have a gun with a Master trigger lock on it. Unfortunately the key got misplaced somewhere along the line so I was afraid I would have to take it to a locksmith. I watched a couple of Youtube videos, bent a paper clip and a small strip of metal and voila it was open. Less than 5 minutes. When it first started to turn I was sure I broke something 'cause I wasn't expecting it to actually work. I'm assuming that I'm lucky rather than talented, but I'll take it.

Thanks for the info guys! You let me know that it was possible without expensive tools or a trip to the locksmith.

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Re: Lockpicking
<Reply # 50 on 1/27/2013 7:55 AM >
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In the future if you can't find the key, a drill or drill press and a 3/16" bit will get that open no problem. Be safe with that thing ;)

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Re: Lockpicking
<Reply # 51 on 2/2/2013 2:48 AM >
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A lot is going to depend on the tolerances of the lock you are attempting and what (if any) security pins are in it. A double spool, mushroom, barrel or some serrated pins can make raking (or any picking for that matter) considerably more frustrating; especially if you don't know what they feel like /how they behave in a given lock. I personally can pick security pins much faster than I can rake them now. (but that's mostly achieved through study of different locks and what goes into them, and practice, practice, practice)
I only recommend SPP as a means to get familiar w/ how different pin configurations, tolerances, etc. behave in a lock. Once that baseline is established raking is much much easier on much harder locks.
Another perk of getting to know your locks is that most of the locks you'll run into are fairly simple to bypass the cylinder on. However considering as the title of the tread is "Lockpicking" I won't go off topic with a bunch about that.
Check youtube most Masterlocks can be opened with little more than tension wrench and a well placed sneeze.

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