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 Dougo
 
Wrong account -- Look for other Doug
Location: Victoria, Australia
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 60 on 1/26/2011 7:57 AM >
|  | | | How do you deal with crack-heads?
Move to Australia 
But then the crack-heads win.
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delta025
| | Re: How do you deal with crack-heads?
<Reply # 61 on 1/30/2011 3:07 AM >
| | | | You might have heard this one before, but:
Airsoft guns? If you invest about $80-$100 in a decent semi-auto pistol with 400+ FPS, it can be a great way to ward off potential attackers and / or hobos + drugnuts.
Aside from the obvious trouble with the Law, one of these will probably help you out in a nasty situation. Not only do they look like an intimidating real weapon, (not that a crack-head is paying any attention to that) they actually do some surface damage and hurt like hell. Plus, most counties allow them.
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compaq12986
Location: Tupper Lake, N.Y., 12986
Gender: Male
| |  | | Re: How do you deal with crack-heads?
<Reply # 62 on 1/30/2011 3:10 AM >
| | | | Posted by delta025
You might have heard this one before, but:
Airsoft guns? If you invest about $80-$100 in a decent semi-auto pistol with 400+ FPS, it can be a great way to ward off potential attackers and / or hobos + drugnuts.
Aside from the obvious trouble with the Law, one of these will probably help you out in a nasty situation. Not only do they look like an intimidating real weapon, (not that a crack-head is paying any attention to that) they actually do some surface damage and hurt like hell. Plus, most counties allow them.
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bad idea...very bad idea. Not only will you get into tons and tons of legal trouble for just carrying it around concealed, but if you do shoot someone and the hobo press's charges ya fucked royally. you also run the risk of just pissing them off. seeing as they do dress in layers and or high they wont even really feel it. good way to get cut.
The Misandry around these parts is redonkulous. Sorry I was born with male anatomy.
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jeepdave
   
Location: Anderson, SC
Gender: Male
It's also a gun.
| | Re: How do you deal with crack-heads?
<Reply # 63 on 1/30/2011 5:37 AM >
| | | | Here is one that's legal to have on you, and you can explain it to a cop. It will buy you enough time to get away from someone if need be, and is good fun.
Wasp spray. It shoots pretty accurate up to 10', will stun and blind most people, crack or not, and if your caught with it at any time by a cop, just say that to "photo" certain shots, sometimes you have to get rid of the bees in the area. Just my .02
Ezekiel 25:17 |
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\/adder
  
Location: DunkarooLand
Gender: Male
I'm the worst of the best but I'm in this race.
| | | Re: How do you deal with crack-heads?
<Reply # 64 on 1/30/2011 5:44 AM >
| | | | Posted by jeepdave
Here is one that's legal to have on you, and you can explain it to a cop. It will buy you enough time to get away from someone if need be, and is good fun.
Wasp spray. It shoots pretty accurate up to 10', will stun and blind most people, crack or not, and if your caught with it at any time by a cop, just say that to "photo" certain shots, sometimes you have to get rid of the bees in the area. Just my .02
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Tell them you're allergic to bees, carry some benadryl (which is something explorers should carry anyways)
It's illegal in Michigan (don't think anywhere else) to spray someone with something other than 2% OC pepper spray. But fuck it, if I got away, I wouldn't be calling the cops ... I'd just leave him there to suffer.
But no, as I'm sure has already been said (too lazy to go back and looks):
Leave em alone and they'll probably leave you alone.
And in a last resort defense: a sturdy tripod is an excellent baseball bat. And has the reach of the tripod + you arm length.
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"No risk, no reward, no fun."
"Go all the way or walk away"
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phrenzee
Location: Canada
Gender: Male
| | Re: How do you deal with crack-heads?
<Reply # 65 on 1/30/2011 12:19 PM >
| | | | In the past, I have found that carrying a $5.00 bill in my pocket to offer to homeless people that I encounter in abandoned buildings helps. They are usually happy to get the money. It might also be wise to tell them that's all you have. I consider it an admission price for being permitted to photograph their 'house'.
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Dougo
Wrong account -- Look for other Doug
Location: Victoria, Australia
Gender: Male
| | | Re: How do you deal with crack-heads?
<Reply # 66 on 1/31/2011 10:18 AM >
| | | | Posted by delta025
You might have heard this one before, but:
Airsoft guns? If you invest about $80-$100 in a decent semi-auto pistol with 400+ FPS, it can be a great way to ward off potential attackers and / or hobos + drugnuts.
Aside from the obvious trouble with the Law, one of these will probably help you out in a nasty situation. Not only do they look like an intimidating real weapon, (not that a crack-head is paying any attention to that) they actually do some surface damage and hurt like hell. Plus, most counties allow them.
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You can't even buy paint ball guns in Australia without a gun licence.
I also think it's a bad idea because you might pull your Airsoft gun on someone who might pull something a >bit more real<.
That would never happen in America hey? ;)
Cheers
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jeepdave
Location: Anderson, SC
Gender: Male
It's also a gun.
| | Re: How do you deal with crack-heads?
<Reply # 67 on 1/31/2011 6:30 PM >
| | | | I'll jump on the airsoft guns = bad idea wagon. If you pull a gun, you damn sure better intend to use it. Because I will. Bring a real gun or don't bring one at all. Period. And in rural areas I tend to bring a longarm. Less legalities.
Ezekiel 25:17 |
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Price
Location: Houston,TX
Gender: Male
Urbex: Keeping record of things most people have forgotten.
| | Re: How do you deal with crack-heads?
<Reply # 68 on 1/31/2011 10:18 PM >
| | | | burn baking soda and dog sh*t
thats what it smells like
they used to cook at near my moms old apartment. smelt so bad. luckily they were caught and taken out.
“It still amazes me how many millions goes to discovering another star in the galaxies when, for all we know, we are still sitting on top of another undiscovered world beneath our feet.”
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Garutachi
Location: MA
Gender: Female
| | Re: How do you deal with crack-heads?
<Reply # 69 on 1/31/2011 10:33 PM >
| | | | Posted by jeepdave
I'll jump on the airsoft guns = bad idea wagon. If you pull a gun, you damn sure better intend to use it. Because I will. Bring a real gun or don't bring one at all. Period. And in rural areas I tend to bring a longarm. Less legalities.
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Yeah, I'm with ya. I could think of a ton of things that could go wrong with bringing anything that even resembles a gun.
"The Earth is not my home, I'm just passing by." -Tom Waits |
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TheWolfman269
Location: Nashville, Tennessee
Gender: Male
If it looks like a wolf, acts like a wolf, and howls like a wolf, it's probably an asshole.
| | | Re: How do you deal with crack-heads?
<Reply # 70 on 2/1/2011 6:39 PM >
| | | | Posted by Garutachi
Yeah, I'm with ya. I could think of a ton of things that could go wrong with bringing anything that even resembles a gun.
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I'm in on this one as well. If someone pulled a air-soft gun on me, I'm clearing leather with my real one. I'll kill you dead and be fully within my legal right to do so. HORRIBLE idea. Pulling any kind of firearm is going to put people into what is known as "fight or flight" mode. Meaning they are going to be scared and run, or think that they are in danger of being killed and are going to fight you with everything they have.
"I've got military training, a giant crowbar, and I've already been shot. What can really stop me?" - Myself |
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TraumaLlama
| | Re: How do you deal with crack-heads?
<Reply # 71 on 2/3/2011 5:28 PM >
|  | | | Been waiting to reply to this one.
Look, crack heads are people. Albeit slightly ramped up people, they are people. If someone started waving weapons in your face, you're gonna go into fight or flight mode. These people are already in that mode, so don't push it.
I find with anyone experiencing an altered mental status from a substance, be it alcohol or drugs, will simply reflect back what you give them. If you are nice and happy and genuinely listen to them and chat with them, they will be earnest back (to their best ability, anyway), or atleast friendly enough to let you just keep walking....If you get tough with them they will KNOW they are tougher than you (liquid courage after all) and feel the need to prove it. If you ignore them they will probably ignore you, unless they're trying to specifically get your attention.
If you're scared and having a hard time hiding that, just say "Oh sorry, didn't expect to run into anyone else here! You scared me! Haha. Whats up?" but try to keep walking. Worst case you have a guy babbling and talking to you for a few minutes until you clear the building and get out. Best case, you have a buddy who shows you some pretty sweet stuff.
You could always go for a ride along with a paramedic, see how they handle crack/meth/speed/heads or violent psychs, or violent psychs on crack/meth/speed. Now whether that paramedic handles it the right way or wrong way, you'll have a learning experience!
/rant. Sorry!
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LordPing
Location: NJ/PA
Gender: Male
| | Re: How do you deal with crack-heads?
<Reply # 72 on 3/26/2011 4:50 PM >
| | | | maybe it actually was sugar and he was just baking a cake.
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Yield
Location: Look behind you
Gender: Male
I'd do you for a klondike bar
| | Re: How do you deal with crack-heads?
<Reply # 73 on 3/26/2011 7:41 PM >
| | | | I haven't read a single post in here, so I hope this hasn't been said yet:
"If you can't beat them, join them"
Yield's Peer Review:
~Doesn't give a fuck, total badass, and one of my ue-besties.
~Genuine, has positive character and this thing called integrity. Knows when to be serious. Passionate about productive things. Human being. ~fish fish boxing boxing bestest friend evah |
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Relocate
Location: nunyabiz
Gender: Male
| | Re: How do you deal with crack-heads?
<Reply # 74 on 3/27/2011 2:26 AM >
| | | | I carry a knife but I've never had to use it, much less pull it out and threaten. Lately, I have been wearing my dirtiest ragged clothes while out at night and I rub dirt on my face, so I look homeless and possibly a crackhead myself. Even last night I ran across some homeless guys near MacArthur Park around 4 AM and I was lookin dirty and I offered them some cigs, we chatted, they asked me for cash, I told them I was homeless as well and I walked away...easy as that.
My hand was in my pocket clenched around the knife tho...
BUT, If I didn't live in the city I would consider carrying a gun.
To fail in what you've yet to achieve is more the spirit of exploration than to make no attempt at all.
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Weapon X
Location: Around
Gender: Male
"You might remember that 'annoyed' is my natural state"
| |  | | Re: How do you deal with crack-heads?
<Reply # 75 on 3/28/2011 8:04 AM >
| | | | Posted by Relocate
I carry a knife but I've never had to use it, much less pull it out and threaten. Lately, I have been wearing my dirtiest ragged clothes while out at night and I rub dirt on my face, so I look homeless and possibly a crackhead myself. Even last night I ran across some homeless guys near MacArthur Park around 4 AM and I was lookin dirty and I offered them some cigs, we chatted, they asked me for cash, I told them I was homeless as well and I walked away...easy as that.
My hand was in my pocket clenched around the knife tho...
BUT, If I didn't live in the city I would consider carrying a gun.
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Carrying a gun would be a horrible idea for a UE adventure, if you get caught by the cops you're porked. Even if you are licensed for a concealed weapon you're fucked because you're committing a crime by being there so it's automatically going to be a weapons charge and assuming you're licensed you'll lose that license (and your guns) for life.
The way you do with the cigs and pretending to be homeless is a far smarter way to go, but be careful that knife could even get you a concealed weapons charge whilst trespassing if the cop is in a shitty enough mood.
"Ya know.... if I were born a few decades earlier I'd probably be locked in an asylum instead of sneaking into them" :D |
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Puppytime
Location: Anne Arundel County, Maryland, USA
Gender: Male
| | Re: How do you deal with crack-heads?
<Reply # 76 on 7/12/2011 1:41 AM >
| | | | Based on the way you described the odor, you were more than likely smelling meth. Crack has a very distinct odor, but the smoke is VERY thin, and you can hardly smell it short of it being blown in your face.
This is only relevant for 2 reasons. If you were able to smell it from a distance, it is likely that you were smelling meth being cooked. If you run in to someone smoking meth, they're going to be really irritated and chase you out. If you run into someone COOKING meth, they're liable to shoot you to keep the lab a secret.
The second reason it is relevant is because someone high on meth is generally much more of a threat than someone high on crack. Any crackheads I've ever met would usually just go the other direction, while someone high on meth might attack you.
As for your original question, its my opinion that if you suspect drug use, whether it be crack or meth or heroin, just come back another day. I realize this may just be me personally, but if there is anyone else in the building, I don't stay. While most drug addicts realistically don't cause any immediate danger, to me its just better to cut your day short and take pictures another day.
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MrSivalls
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I'll be a-surfin' in yer blood on Saturday night
| | Re: How do you deal with crack-heads?
<Reply # 77 on 7/12/2011 10:08 PM >
| | | | Posted by Garutachi
Yeah, I'm with ya. I could think of a ton of things that could go wrong with bringing anything that even resembles a gun.
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Less is better. One or two people, don't talk, listen. Don't smoke, smell.
Take your time as most people are noisy, even by themselves, and will give themselves away.
Make sure the site is secure and then be wary of new arrivals.
Nine times out of ten if you conduct yourself right, you'll hear/smell/see them before they know you are there. It's fun to do.
Your security measures were inadequate.
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geoff5093
Location: New Hampshire
Gender: Male
| | Re: How do you deal with crack-heads?
<Reply # 78 on 7/12/2011 11:34 PM >
| | | | Posted by phrenzee
In the past, I have found that carrying a $5.00 bill in my pocket to offer to homeless people that I encounter in abandoned buildings helps. They are usually happy to get the money. It might also be wise to tell them that's all you have. I consider it an admission price for being permitted to photograph their 'house'.
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Good point about advising them it's all you have, you don't want to pull out your wallet with a bunch of 20's and give him a 5.
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turtle
Location: MSP
Gender: Male
| | | Re: How do you deal with crack-heads?
<Reply # 79 on 7/13/2011 2:16 AM >
| | | | Toss em a broken up lasagna noodle soaked in Orajel that usually puts a smile on their dirty little faces.
Beaten paths are for beaten people. |
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