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1 2 3 4 5 6   UER Forum > Archived Rookie Forum > How do you deal with crack-heads? (Viewed 10181 times) milklord  Location: Dallas, Texas Gender: Male  |  |  Re: How do you deal with crack-heads? <Reply # 20 on 12/16/2010 12:26 AM >   i never really post but damn i'm really sketched out by this cop for real chiiiillll TheWolfman269  Location: Nashville, Tennessee Gender: Male If it looks like a wolf, acts like a wolf, and howls like a wolf, it's probably an asshole.  |  |  Re: How do you deal with crack-heads? <Reply # 21 on 12/16/2010 12:40 AM >   ::shrugs:: I yam what I yam cuz I yam what I yam. No reason to feel "sketched out"... Did I get that right? I don't even really know what that means. All in all I'm a good guy that has a good sense of humor. I really didn't mean to turn this thread into an ethical debate or into a thread about me. I'm a military cop (so I have no jurisdiction of most any of you anyway) and it's not like I tried to hide it. And before I was enforcing the law, I have a long record of breaking it. So it's not like ya'll have anything to worry about from me. You'll come to find I don't care about much. Just stupidity. I can't seem to keep myself from commenting on that. =) "I've got military training, a giant crowbar, and I've already been shot. What can really stop me?" - Myself TheWolfman269  Location: Nashville, Tennessee Gender: Male If it looks like a wolf, acts like a wolf, and howls like a wolf, it's probably an asshole.  |  |  Re: How do you deal with crack-heads? <Reply # 22 on 12/16/2010 12:41 AM >   Posted by Intrinsic Are you the long lost brother of rz350? (Edit: I didn't mind rz350 but it's like deja-vu all over again) I don't know who that is. "I've got military training, a giant crowbar, and I've already been shot. What can really stop me?" - Myself Garutachi  Location: MA Gender: Female  |  Re: How do you deal with crack-heads? <Reply # 23 on 12/16/2010 2:42 AM >   Posted by milklord i never really post but damn i'm really sketched out by this cop for real Really? LMAO. "The Earth is not my home, I'm just passing by." -Tom Waits TheWolfman269  Location: Nashville, Tennessee Gender: Male If it looks like a wolf, acts like a wolf, and howls like a wolf, it's probably an asshole.  |  |  Re: How do you deal with crack-heads? <Reply # 24 on 12/16/2010 3:38 AM >   I know! How am I that scary? Sheltered people... "I've got military training, a giant crowbar, and I've already been shot. What can really stop me?" - Myself splumer  Location: Cleveland, Ohio Gender: Male  |  Re: How do you deal with crack-heads? <Reply # 25 on 12/16/2010 1:39 PM >   Hasn't this been discussed before? “We are not going to have the kind of cooperation we need if everyone insists on their own narrow version of reality. … the great divide in the world today … is between people who have the courage to listen and those who are convinced that they already know it all.” -Madeline Albright Garutachi  Location: MA Gender: Female  |  Re: How do you deal with crack-heads? <Reply # 26 on 12/16/2010 2:44 PM >   Posted by splumer Hasn't this been discussed before? How would I know? That's why I posted in the "rookie" section. I've only been on here for about a month. I didn't find any threads on the subject but I didn't go back and read every single thread ever written. Sorry if the topic I brought up is redundant. "The Earth is not my home, I'm just passing by." -Tom Waits TheWolfman269  Location: Nashville, Tennessee Gender: Male If it looks like a wolf, acts like a wolf, and howls like a wolf, it's probably an asshole.  |  |  Re: How do you deal with crack-heads? <Reply # 27 on 12/16/2010 2:49 PM >   Posted by Garutachi How would I know? That's why I posted in the "rookie" section. I've only been on here for about a month. I didn't find any threads on the subject but I didn't go back and read every single thread ever written. Sorry if the topic I brought up is redundant. I wouldn't worry about it. Alot of topics are going to be brought up more than once. And it's going to happen time and time again as we have new people come and go. It was a good question that led to a good discussion and information being put out. In the end, it seems like the conversation was at least taken to heart by you. And if it helps to keep one person a little safer, then it was well worth it. "I've got military training, a giant crowbar, and I've already been shot. What can really stop me?" - Myself rostit  Location: South Eastern PA Gender: Male Imma herpin ma derp like YEAHH!!  |  Re: How do you deal with crack-heads? <Reply # 28 on 12/16/2010 4:10 PM >   Im more of a lurker around these parts but this thread reeks of misinformation and fear. The people you encountered were probably smoking crack. It smells like McDonalds french fries. Sort of sweet, sort of burny. First off, they are not evil psychopaths looking to rape you and steal your shit as long as they are high. Just walk away or treat them like humans. Spraying them with pepper spray is probably the worst thing you could do. Crack heads may not respond to it when they are high because of the effect on the brain. Then they are pissed because you killed their high and then they will come after you. Also, crack heads are the lowest of the low in the junkie pecking order, right below meth heads. Treat them with kindness but still keep your guard up. If you ever run into a drug addict while exploring, either ignore them and walk away or make friendly conversation and you can probably find out about other cool places that you dont even know about. Dont offer them cash. If they see you have money, they will bug you until you leave. If you smoke, see if they want one. Otherwise, keep it short and sweet. As an ex-junkie that used to prowl the streets of north Philly, I can attest that there are some places up there that no-one would know about other than the drug addicts that inhabit them. Treat others as you want to be treated. /hasnt this exact question been asked about 4000 times already? TheWolfman269  Location: Nashville, Tennessee Gender: Male If it looks like a wolf, acts like a wolf, and howls like a wolf, it's probably an asshole.  |  |  Re: How do you deal with crack-heads? <Reply # 29 on 12/16/2010 5:08 PM >   I feel it is being skipped over alot that I DID say the first thing you should try to do is leave. All the other stuff I have thrown in is ONLY for if that doesn't work and they prevent you from leaving. If they don't seem like they intend to hurt you or someone else, then by all means let them continue to carry on with there crackheaded ways. But if they do, game on. That is regardless of who they are. Crackhead, homeless guy, or dude in a three piece suit. And Freeze will work on a crackhead. Meth head, no. Hell, those guys have taken 16 rounds of 9mm at times and are still trying to fight. This is just me speaking as someone that has used it on alot of junkies over the years, but hey, believe who you want. And while it may have been brought up multiple times, I state again, it is never going to be a problem with me to make sure everyone has as much information they can have on how to defend oneself. If it saves someone from being hurt or killed, then it is worth it to continue bringing it up. "I've got military training, a giant crowbar, and I've already been shot. What can really stop me?" - Myself rostit  Location: South Eastern PA Gender: Male Imma herpin ma derp like YEAHH!!  |  Re: How do you deal with crack-heads? <Reply # 30 on 12/16/2010 10:32 PM >   I have seen a crackhead take a full face of Chemical spray from a cop and still walk towards him. I think now we need to find a crackhead and test it. TheWolfman269  Location: Nashville, Tennessee Gender: Male If it looks like a wolf, acts like a wolf, and howls like a wolf, it's probably an asshole.  |  |  Re: How do you deal with crack-heads? <Reply # 31 on 12/17/2010 12:10 AM >   Posted by rostit I have seen a crackhead take a full face of Chemical spray from a cop and still walk towards him. I think now we need to find a crackhead and test it. Ahh. But the question is, what kind of chemical spray was it? I'll agree that regular pepper spray and mace are a joke. They will irritate someone but not stop them. Freeze is a whole different breed of animal though. But I wholeheartedly agree with this 'crackhead consumer testing"! We'll give one like 20 bucks to stand around and let us spray him with various things and see which ones suck the most. Freeze, SABRE, mace, dog piss. You know, whatever we can think of. "ok. Now that you've been sprayed with "spray B", can you tell us how it makes you feel compared to "spray A"?" "I've got military training, a giant crowbar, and I've already been shot. What can really stop me?" - Myself Steed  Location: Edmonton/Seoul Gender: Male Your Friendly Neighbourhood Race Traitor  |  |  Re: How do you deal with crack-heads? <Reply # 32 on 12/17/2010 12:25 AM >   Well I live in a country with no crackheads, no concealed firearms, and very few homeless, so maybe this is the wrong place to speak up. It seems to me that you were intruding on their territory, even if they were squatting illegally. Best just to steer clear of them (or anyone else you run across). They're quite possibly much more afraid of you. It's probably better not to defend yourself unless absolutely necessary, because it might turn out later they were there legally, and you're essentially an armed intruder. We've all had trips aborted because of suspicious people. I say suck it up and plan a return visit. fiftyone_eggs  Location: jerzey Gender: Male  |  |  Re: How do you deal with crack-heads? <Reply # 33 on 12/17/2010 4:14 AM >   there are no crackheads in s. korea?? Steed  Location: Edmonton/Seoul Gender: Male Your Friendly Neighbourhood Race Traitor  |  |  Re: How do you deal with crack-heads? <Reply # 34 on 12/17/2010 4:32 AM >   Posted by fiftyone_eggs there are no crackheads in s. korea?? Well, there's no crack, at least that I've ever heard of. If you're in Busan I've heard cocaine is somewhat available, but that's the closest. I'm sure the North has some, as all drugs seem to be generally more available up there, and also more legal. If there are crackheads, they'd probably be gang members and not homeless. splumer  Location: Cleveland, Ohio Gender: Male  |  Re: How do you deal with crack-heads? <Reply # 35 on 12/17/2010 1:30 PM >   Posted by Garutachi How would I know? That's why I posted in the "rookie" section. I've only been on here for about a month. I didn't find any threads on the subject but I didn't go back and read every single thread ever written. Sorry if the topic I brought up is redundant. Perhaps the "Search" button on the left side of your scree? “We are not going to have the kind of cooperation we need if everyone insists on their own narrow version of reality. … the great divide in the world today … is between people who have the courage to listen and those who are convinced that they already know it all.” -Madeline Albright Garutachi  Location: MA Gender: Female  |  Re: How do you deal with crack-heads? <Reply # 36 on 12/19/2010 4:28 AM >   Posted by splumer Perhaps the "Search" button on the left side of your scree? K thanks. "The Earth is not my home, I'm just passing by." -Tom Waits Therrin  This member has been banned. See the banlist for more information. Location: North of Chicago, IL Gender: Male *Therrin puts on the penguin-suit  |  |  Re: How do you deal with crack-heads? <Reply # 37 on 12/19/2010 5:56 AM >   Well I live in a country with no crackheads, no concealed firearms, and very few homeless, so maybe this is the wrong place to speak up. They're definitely there. That you don't see it means that you don't spend much time in the wrong places or with the wrong people. Wolfman, the "I carry a gun while exploring" topic you'll find on here in SEVERAL places. Most threads ended up having to be locked because of flame wars between the people on each side of the issue. I'm actually fairly amazed that this one didn't turn out worse than this. (yet) I'm still amazed at all the people who say things like "crackheads are more scared of you than you are of them" or "they aren't going to just randomly hurt/rape you", etc. The people saying these things likely have NO IDEA what's going on in the mind of a drug addict, or what that person is capable of. Having been one, and having been around them; I would always choose now to assume the worst intentions of these types of people until they show otherwise. Granted, I wouldn't attack them unless they display violent behavior, or if I think I'm about to be attacked... But speed-freaks of all varieties are some of the most random people you will ever know, and can switch from nice to batshit crazy at the drop of a hat. Any little thing can set them off and ratchet their paranoia through the roof, and their actions are something that's impossible to guess at. Don't show them you have ANYTHING that they might want to take from you; money, cigs, etc. Crack cocaine is a little bit sweeter smelling. Meth smells like harsh chemicals, a very unnatural odor and one you'll never forget once you smell it. You can even smell the lingering of it after someone has left. Even if the person hasn't smoked very recently, they often reek of chemical smelling sweat, and in the case of meth, their hair and clothing may look slightly glittery. Also they often look gaunt, pale, and may have sores on their skin and face from picking at themselves. I used to use/carry PepperFoam. It was a mix of CS, OC foam, and the UV dye. I like it much better than typical "pepper spray" of the liquid variety, because it's thicker. It doesn't blow-back into your own face as easily. When it hits them it gels up like whipped cream, and as they try to rub it out of their eyes they end up smearing it everywhere. Think... shaving cream on someone's face. The dye soaks in everywhere they spread it, and usually stays in the skin for several days, even after a shower. There are actually gel and foam formulas. They have almost twice the distance of the liquid type sprays; some can spray up to about 18ft. They also are more difficult to wash out, kick in quicker, and tend to last longer. And for those of you who don't like carrying stuff that looks like "a can of pepper spray" they have some pretty unobtrusive body styles now, as well as some which are designed to look like cell phones and such. Give a person a match and they'll be warm for a minute, but light them on fire and they'll be warm for the rest of their life. =) PositivePressure  Location: High and low where most don't go Gender: Male Set your Tesla coil to broil  |  Re: How do you deal with crack-heads? <Reply # 38 on 12/19/2010 7:53 AM >   Posted by Therrin I'm still amazed at all the people who say things like "crackheads are more scared of you than you are of them" or "they aren't going to just randomly hurt/rape you", etc. The people saying these things likely have NO IDEA what's going on in the mind of a drug addict, or what that person is capable of. +1! It depends on the drug, but a lot of these people are extremely paranoid and behave extremely irrationally and unpredictably. They often view anything in their environment that they see as abnormal, as a threat. Combine extreme paranoia with hallucinations and the disabling of many of the brain's inhibitory centers, and you get a very unpredictable individual. These people can be non-threatening and conversing with you one minute, and then completely change with no warning because of the way you moved your hand or looked at them. I've had a well-dressed, clean cut high school kid try to take swings at me, kick me, bite me, and spit at me, while handcuffed, because he thought I was a giant insect that was going to kill him. His goal, therefore, was to kill me first. One second he'd be terrified of me and writhing around on the floor screaming and trying to hide, and then the next second he'd be trying to attack me, his heart pumping at over 200 beats per minute (and when I say pumping, I mean contracting, because you don't "pump" a whole hell of a lot of blood anywhere at +200BPM) It was taking two burly cops to hold him down and they were still struggling. While this isn't something you'd typically run into on the street, outside a party full of foolish "experimenting" kids, it's an example of how completely off the wall people can get. Then you get the real hardcore addicts. These people have only one concern, and its how they're going to get their next fix. They don't care about eating, or sleeping, or anything else except getting what they need to keep their high going. If you think they're not going to potentially cause you harm to get there if they really need it and have no other options, you could be putting yourself in a bad situation. I'm not saying these people are animals, or that they have no morals - These people know that if they can't keep that drug in their system, they're going to go into withdrawal and with that comes a world of hurt, up to and including possible death. To them, the drug is keeping them alive. becckeez  Location: 804 Gender: Female trippin.  |  Re: How do you deal with crack-heads? <Reply # 39 on 12/19/2010 7:48 PM >   crowbar. UER Forum > Archived Rookie Forum > How do you deal with crack-heads? (Viewed 10181 times)  1 2 3 4 5 6   All content and images copyright © 2002-2024 UER.CA and respective creators. Graphical Design by Crossfire. To contact webmaster, or click to email with problems or other questions about this site: UER CONTACT View Terms of Service | View Privacy Policy | Server colocation provided by Beanfield This page was generated for you in 359 milliseconds. Since June 23, 2002, a total of 739062176 pages have been generated.