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 The Seeker
    
Location: Greater Toronto Area
Gender: Male
Time's Person of the Year for 2006
 |  |  | Flame Away[warning, long thread]
< on 12/6/2010 11:37 PM >
|  | | | Since EVERYONE on UER seems to enjoy flaming and hating on The Seeker/Scott Jarvis
Let's hear your worst. these are the only shots I could dig up that I have on THIS computer that I could find that were OK, so I figure why not! I've already been told 2394839485 times on this forum that my shots suck, and composition is shit, and that i have no sense of lines and horizons, so lets hear it... Flame away people!
and yes, I'm aware there are non-exploring shots
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Wilk
   
Location: NYC
Gender: Male
| | | Re: Flame Away[warning, long thread]
<Reply # 1 on 12/6/2010 11:51 PM >
| | | | Please let me know where can I buy the fruit in your first picture.
Ready for liftoff
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The Seeker
Location: Greater Toronto Area
Gender: Male
Time's Person of the Year for 2006
| | | Re: Flame Away[warning, long thread]
<Reply # 2 on 12/6/2010 11:56 PM >
| | | | Posted by Wilky
Please let me know where can I buy the fruit in your first picture.
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unfortunately, not available anywhere  it was an experiment, and then discarded
im surprised there haven't been any flamers attacking these yet.. 
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Wilk
Location: NYC
Gender: Male
| | | Re: Flame Away[warning, long thread]
<Reply # 3 on 12/7/2010 12:02 AM >
| | | | Oh don't worry they will be around. What do you expect after the douche you made yourself look like in that other thread.
Ready for liftoff
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The Seeker
Location: Greater Toronto Area
Gender: Male
Time's Person of the Year for 2006
| | | Re: Flame Away[warning, long thread]
<Reply # 4 on 12/7/2010 12:04 AM >
| | | | Posted by Wilky
Oh don't worry they will be around. What do you expect after the douche you made yourself look like in that other thread.
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ya, but i did not mean it like that. im just bad with words. but regardless... people made it clear they hate me, and my photography, and that im bad at photography, so, im sticking true to karma, and allowing people to blast my photography, and hopefully ill learn something, whether it be photography wise, or just a life lesson. i made this thread so they could give me all theyve got
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TurboZutek
King Dick
Location: Scotland
Gender: Male
Giant octo-penised rapephant
| |  | | Re: Flame Away[warning, long thread]
<Reply # 5 on 12/7/2010 12:18 AM >
| | | | I'll start!
Here's the name of the forum: UE Photo Critiques
Can you guess my suggestion? Be moar on topix with da pickz!
Chris...
We all had ostriches. My dad had an ostrich farm! I remember one day someone came in and said the high altitude bombing of Kosovo had been a limited success, so we all went out and celebrated… by killing an ostrich and boiling it in kiwi fruit. |
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Rockle
Location: Chicagoland
Gender: Female
Aint no walk in the park
| | Re: Flame Away[warning, long thread]
<Reply # 6 on 12/7/2010 12:20 AM >
| | | | Posted by The Seeker
im sticking true to karma, and allowing people to blast my photography, and hopefully ill learn something,
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That's not karma, it's constructive criticism.
I know nothing with any certainty, but the sight of stars makes me dream. |
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Jonno23
Location: Phoenix, Az, Sector zz9 Plural Z Alpha
Gender: Male
This space for rent
| | Re: Flame Away[warning, long thread]
<Reply # 7 on 12/7/2010 2:17 AM >
| | | | Scott, I happen to like your pics, but I'm new and still have no clue what I am doing. I am not a pro like you yet. (Sorry, I am a smart ass and couldn't resist getting one in there)
In all honesty, I do like your stuff. I really don't know what I am doing yet and fully admit that. You just should have taken your time and thought out that post. If it wasn't what you meant to say or how you meant to say it, take the time to proof read your stuff first before you hit the "post reply" button. It sounded douchy, and throwing up this rant makes it sound more so. Keep shooting and just breathe before you post. lol
Blah Blah Blah. Shut up and open the damn door.
"It's ok Officer, I watch a lot of cop shows on tv, so i am practically one of you guys." - sadly, that didn't work.
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Loki
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Gender: Male
| | Re: Flame Away[warning, long thread]
<Reply # 8 on 12/7/2010 2:25 AM >
| | | | Woe is Seeker.
Wank | Wank | Wank | Wank | Wank | Wank |
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kowalski
| | Re: Flame Away[warning, long thread]
<Reply # 9 on 12/7/2010 2:31 AM >
| | | | Posted by Jonno23
Keep shooting and just breathe before you post. lol
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Also, "Very High" JPEG compression is your friend, generic high school or first year college photography assignments are not as impressive as you think they are, and the only thing that looks even less impressive now is your "UE" photography, embarrassingly enough.
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jinx13
Location: Peninsula, San Francisco Bay Area
Gender: Male
| | Re: Flame Away[warning, long thread]
<Reply # 10 on 12/7/2010 3:38 AM >
| | | | Oh, uh, we're flaming now? What'd I miss?
Um. Yeah -- Scott. Looks like someone needs to put the suck back in the suck jar.
Btw, #16 is pretty neat.
Gravity, it's not just a good idea, it's the law. |
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The Seeker
Location: Greater Toronto Area
Gender: Male
Time's Person of the Year for 2006
| | | Re: Flame Away[warning, long thread]
<Reply # 11 on 12/7/2010 3:57 AM >
| | | | Posted by jinx13
Looks like someone needs to put the suck back in the suck jar.
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what's that mean?
and ya, flaming. i made one poorly judged post, and everyone started after me. so i started this thread so they can all have at it, and give me their opinions and what i deserve.
it was not made for any 'woe' or sympathy...
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rostit
Location: South Eastern PA
Gender: Male
Imma herpin ma derp like YEAHH!!
| | Re: Flame Away[warning, long thread]
<Reply # 12 on 12/7/2010 5:06 AM >
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/not horrible, but the cars are really dirty.
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The Seeker
Location: Greater Toronto Area
Gender: Male
Time's Person of the Year for 2006
| | | Re: Flame Away[warning, long thread]
<Reply # 13 on 12/7/2010 5:17 AM >
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but you agree with the rest of UER that think they are bad? that's fair..
and they are dirty, because it was not planned..
it was an out of nowhere photoshoot. was not planned AT ALL
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Loki
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Gender: Male
| | Re: Flame Away[warning, long thread]
<Reply # 14 on 12/7/2010 5:28 AM >
| | | | This self-deprecating bullshit is getting old.
Wank | Wank | Wank | Wank | Wank | Wank |
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Intrinsic
Location: Collingwood
Gender: Male
| | Re: Flame Away[warning, long thread]
<Reply # 15 on 12/7/2010 5:58 AM >
| | | | This is not 4chan, people do forgive.
Don't get too caught up in the fact you received some heat from the community. We've all been basted or did the basting and a few weeks later can still hold a civil conversation on the forums.
Will anyone care a month from now? No.
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The Seeker
Location: Greater Toronto Area
Gender: Male
Time's Person of the Year for 2006
| | | Re: Flame Away[warning, long thread]
<Reply # 16 on 12/7/2010 6:03 AM >
| | | | Posted by Intrinsic
This is not 4chan, people do forgive.
Don't get too caught up in the fact you received some heat from the community. We've all been basted or did the basting and a few weeks later can still hold a civil conversation on the forums.
Will anyone care a month from now? No.
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that's not my concern... my concern, is if my photography is THAT bad, like everyone says, i want criticism so i can make it better!
im over the basting now..
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kowalski
| | Re: Flame Away[warning, long thread]
<Reply # 17 on 12/7/2010 7:03 AM >
| | | | How is anyone supposed to critique it?
01. The photos
The issue really isn't the technical problems (although certainly there are enough of those---I mean seriously, can you not see the terrible jpeg artifacting in your own work?). The issue is that you haven't given us any sense there's any creativity or thought actually underpinning either the photographs or the selection you presented.
Most of them appear to have been taken to fulfill class assignments, and display the kind of rote, emotionless, cliche-based fulfillment of tasks one would expect from that. The assignments didn't send your mind whirling, and the result was boring and pedestrian.
02. Curatorial
The second challenge for any critique is that you've just dumped a bunch of random photos on us, with no coherence, with nothing to make sense of them, and with nothing to hold our attention from one frame to the next. If this was your portfolio, you wouldn't be hired. If I was a guest critic looking at your assembled work, I wouldn't bother with your stuff, I'd just move on to the next student who maybe bothered to think about how their work might fit together as a single body. Anyway, it shows a fundamental disrespect to your viewer to present images like this and then expect any sort of feedback.
03. About the few 'URBEX' photos you included
As I said earlier, the really disappointing thing is how poor your 'urban exploration' photographs look in comparison to your class-directed photographs. At least with the other photographs, you're bothering to do something with lighting and composition and so forth (probably because the assignment told you to). In the urbex photos, you're not even bothering to get that far. You can't just point your camera at decayed shit, or at a skyline from a roof, or at a building from the most fail-heavy position you could possibly shoot it from. These photographs will not work, or if by some fluke you get your exposure right, they will look exactly like the photographs that 8,000 other people have been taking for the last seven years. You won't even have the pleasure of selling a car or a fruit or something with them.
I may be able to save you some time here, because you could expose many many hundreds of frames before you figure this out. The only way you're ever going to get good at taking photographs of broken buildings is if you stop taking photos of them. I know this sounds pretty fucking counter-intuitive, but I'm serious. You don't have the eye of the handful of people who do manage to take incredibly brilliant photographs of decayed structures, and you don't have the equipment either.
At some stage you might develop the capacity and the imagination to take some interesting shots of these places again, but it's not going to happen now and you're not going to make it happen by continuing to shoot them. You need to walk away and find something else to work on photographing, something you actually care to tell a story about and thus feel compelled to invent new approaches to conveying that message and meaning. Because you're not doing that with your abandonment photography, and it's coming out very clearly in your product. Go photograph vegetables, or road intersections, or people in the mall, or your grandfather's old factory buddies, until you've found something genuinely meaningful. Then, if you're lucky, you'll learn how to draw and picture that kind of meaning in other things, like abandoned buildings.
The only vaguely interesting photograph in the set is the infrared, and you know as well as I do that it only has any interest because of the cheap effect. The composition is bad, and you probably should have shot this at a different focal length so there was less compression of the distant towers (so they would appear farther apart and not look so cramped into one spot in the image). But it does remind me of the black and white work I was shooting in high school (when I wasn't going through the motions to complete assignments I didn't care about), so there is at least a tinge of hope for you. It's also five minutes from where I used to live, so there is that too. But even this photo, there's no soul in it, there's no sense that you shot this image with any kind of artistic purpose or idea in your head, anything beyond "oh, look at these lines over the landscape, and with the infrared all the vegetation will look SURREAL." You can't make art this way, all you can make is disposable digital photographs that no one except your friends and family will ever care about.
Think before you shoot. Think beyond the shoot. The opportunity to take these photographs is something to be earned and lived up to, not squandered.
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Sgt Marshall
Location: Paris
uer.ca/b...
| | | Re: Flame Away[warning, long thread]
<Reply # 18 on 12/7/2010 9:34 AM >
| | | | It appears Kowalski has thought a lot more about The Seeker's post than The Seeker thought about his post... It might be a bit rough but it’s pretty damn right.
Mate, I’m not a psychologist, but I say you need to sort out this self loathing shit. It is hard to tell if this is an attention seeking action or you genuinely do feel this way. Either way it is counter productive.
Your work is really not that bad, but everything can be improved.
So, harden up, and then learn to recognize the faults in your work and how to improve them, there is no other way.
http://pridian.net
I'm not here to break it, just to see how far it bends. |
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The Seeker
Location: Greater Toronto Area
Gender: Male
Time's Person of the Year for 2006
| | | Re: Flame Away[warning, long thread]
<Reply # 19 on 12/7/2010 2:09 PM >
| | | | Posted by Sgt Marshall
It appears Kowalski has thought a lot more about The Seeker's post than The Seeker thought about his post... It might be a bit rough but it’s pretty damn right.
Mate, I’m not a psychologist, but I say you need to sort out this self loathing shit. It is hard to tell if this is an attention seeking action or you genuinely do feel this way. Either way it is counter productive.
Your work is really not that bad, but everything can be improved.
So, harden up, and then learn to recognize the faults in your work and how to improve them, there is no other way.
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not self-loathing. im being genuine. i want to hear everyone's honest opinion.
also, this was not arranged as a portfolio. this was just a bunch of random crap i have on my laptop. I JUST got my laptop.. and i don't have much... so i posted what i have.. im in barrie, all my stuff is back home in burlington...
anyways! that aside.
thank you all for the feedback. i shall continue to work at it, and take everyone's suggestions to heart
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