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 LaughingMan
   
I go where others don't
 |  | Just starting out
< on 11/28/2010 1:31 AM >
|  | | | Hey I'm still new to photography but I'm determined to learn. Here's my first attempt at being artistic with people in the shot. I welcome you to rip them apart as long as you can give me some pointer on how to improve.
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[last edit 11/28/2010 1:32 AM by LaughingMan - edited 1 times]
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pianissimo357
| | Re: Just starting out
<Reply # 1 on 11/28/2010 2:06 AM >
| | | | The usual stuff about vertical lines being vertical. If you're not using a tripod, use one. Get a bubble level, or use the virtual horizon in the viewfinder if your camera has one.
If you can use a fill flash to highlight the person a bit, it would help. I like the near-silhouettes on 2 & 3, but if that's not what you were intentionally going for, try getting some light on them.
If you had been shooting perpendicular to the wall, it'd probably make #8 better - it would eliminate that "falling away from you" tilted look.
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britanne87
Location: sac city, iowa
Gender: Female
| | Re: Just starting out
<Reply # 2 on 11/28/2010 2:07 AM >
| | | | I think they are all good for being inside shots..i like 7, 8, and 9 the best but i like them all. i think that girl is perfect for those shots, shes really pretty i dont think you could have picked a better one 
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Sceptic
Location: In the Dreams of a City that Never Sleeps
Gender: Male
120
| | Re: Just starting out
<Reply # 3 on 11/28/2010 6:05 PM >
| | | | I like the first one the most, I'm still learning myself but some of these feel sort of underexposed, I like the silhouette feeling some of them have but it feels like you were looking for something else in some of these, hope i helped somewhat
"Instinctive forces influence the activity of consciousness. Whether that influence is for better or for worse depends upon the actual contents of the unconscious." |
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LaughingMan
I go where others don't
| | Re: Just starting out
<Reply # 4 on 11/28/2010 7:48 PM >
| | | | Yeah I think I need to invest in a fill light so I can illuminate my subject better. I wanted to keep the rooms dark to portray the actual atmosphere. I use a nikon d3000. Does anyone have any suggestions on what I should use for a flash cause the cameras seems too harsh.
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e-photog
  
Location: Kitchener, Ontario
Gender: Male
This IS in fact me...
| |  | Re: Just starting out
<Reply # 5 on 11/29/2010 4:39 PM >
| | | | Indoor abandonment portraits are NEVER easy. 1 suggestion is to use as much natural light as possible by shooting near windows or doors. The location in the 3rd image would be perfct for this. If you would've shot this 30 degrees to the left, you would've had beautiful natural light, to show off her face. You can see a bit of it on her cheek.
Another suggestion I have is to get a nice fast lens, and by that I mean something with a wide aperature such as a 50mm f/1.8 lens. I have one and use it all the time. It'll allow you to maximize the available light you have, and also get rid of the curved lines I see in your backgrounds caused my a wider angled lens.
As for portable lighting, it wont be cheap... I have a Canon 430ex Speedlight that I can mount to a light stand and trigger with my camera, but I rarely use it. I tend to use natural light as often as possible. It's softer and makes for more natural portraits.
As for composition, try not to cut off peoples feet and hands like in #8 and #3 =P And it's easy enough to correct crooked photos using Photoshop or any other program like it.
But being your first attempt, I'd say you faired quite well. Image 3 is your strongest, however, the cut off foot and shifted angle takes away from it's impact. But keep trying! You'll only get better =)
There's also this forum which you might not have seen. Maybe it'll give you some ideas of where and how you can improve.
http://www.uer.ca/...id=1&catid=1000541
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LaughingMan
I go where others don't
| | Re: Just starting out
<Reply # 6 on 11/30/2010 12:53 AM >
| | | | yeah i was fighting the light in #3. the reason I couldn't get a better angle was due to it being in a stair well and my tripod doesn't do any weird leg angles. I think I may be impatient, and need to learn to wait for the sun to be in the right spot.
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e-photog
Location: Kitchener, Ontario
Gender: Male
This IS in fact me...
| | | Re: Just starting out
<Reply # 7 on 11/30/2010 2:38 PM >
| | | | I've always found shooting portraits with a tripod a but of a pain, but definitely necessary if you're shooting in extremely low light.
And yea, patience is key. I like to start shooting about 3 hours before the sun sets.
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Porcelain Doll
Location: philadelphia
Gender: Female
Who Cooks For You?
| | | Re: Just starting out
<Reply # 8 on 12/1/2010 7:44 PM >
| | | | 1. I think you should have gotten in closer, and the light from the window casting on the wall is kinda bothersome and my eye goes towards them rather then to the subject matter.
2. Too dark, never shoot with the background lighter then the foreground, unless you are going for a silhouette look.
3. Cute, just a little crook it but i dig it.
4. You should have switched, and had the window casting light onto her face instead of behind her making her face dark.
5. I like it, just the blown out window bugs me (i have a thing for not having windows blown out lol)
6. Should have gotten in tighter, and it's blurry.
7. Once again, the blown out window is bothersome and makes the subject too dark.
8. Cute, exposed nicely.
9. The idea is cool, just should have exposed longer and used a tripod
it's better to be absolutely ridiculous than absolutely boring.
“Everyones so shady. That’s why I’m so fuckin pale.” - Porcelain Black |
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LaughingMan
I go where others don't
| | Re: Just starting out
<Reply # 9 on 12/1/2010 11:21 PM >
| | | | Posted by Porcelain Doll
1. I think you should have gotten in closer, and the light from the window casting on the wall is kinda bothersome and my eye goes towards them rather then to the subject matter.
2. Too dark, never shoot with the background lighter then the foreground, unless you are going for a silhouette look.
3. Cute, just a little crook it but i dig it.
4. You should have switched, and had the window casting light onto her face instead of behind her making her face dark.
5. I like it, just the blown out window bugs me (i have a thing for not having windows blown out lol)
6. Should have gotten in tighter, and it's blurry.
7. Once again, the blown out window is bothersome and makes the subject too dark.
8. Cute, exposed nicely.
9. The idea is cool, just should have exposed longer and used a tripod
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Thanks for the input. It's helping me a lot. Sadly I did use a tripod on all of these shots, I just was fighting walls, stairs, door ways and other obstacles. Definitely wont shoot around noon again when I'm indoors.
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LaughingMan
I go where others don't
| | Re: Just starting out
<Reply # 10 on 12/1/2010 11:27 PM >
| | | | So here's a question, each shot except 8 was taken because I thought the area was cool but I'm wondering if i took too much effort getting the surroundings right and not spending enough time properly fitting my model into it. what are your guy's thoughts, and what do you do when you wanna show off a location, but also want to have a person in it
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e-photog
Location: Kitchener, Ontario
Gender: Male
This IS in fact me...
| | | Re: Just starting out
<Reply # 11 on 12/2/2010 3:45 AM >
| | | | Posted by LaughingMan
So here's a question, each shot except 8 was taken because I thought the area was cool but I'm wondering if i took too much effort getting the surroundings right and not spending enough time properly fitting my model into it. what are your guy's thoughts, and what do you do when you wanna show off a location, but also want to have a person in it
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I'd say you've done quite well in that area, but it all depends on what exactly you're trying to photograph.
Are you doing a portrait of a person, or are you trying to make something more creative?
If you're doing portraits, then I'd steer away from settings that will distract the viewer from the subject/model. In my work, I actually darken the surroundings in post processing so that the location is more mysterious, and the subject stands out more.
If you're trying to make a more emotional image, then I'd say make the person more mysterious and try and show off more details in the surroundings. I think this is what you were going for in most of the images you posted here. In which case, I'd say you succeeded.
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redSky
Location: Seattle (formerly ATL)
Gender: Male
SPECTRE Vanguard
| | | Re: Just starting out
<Reply # 12 on 12/8/2010 4:59 PM >
| | | | Posted by e-photog
If you're doing portraits, then I'd steer away from settings that will distract the viewer from the subject/model. In my work, I actually darken the surroundings in post processing so that the location is more mysterious, and the subject stands out more.
If you're trying to make a more emotional image, then I'd say make the person more mysterious and try and show off more details in the surroundings. I think this is what you were going for in most of the images you posted here. In which case, I'd say you succeeded.
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Counterpoint. All UE portraiture is environmental, and all environmental portraiture is a story about a person in a location. If it's a normal portrait there's not much reason to shoot it in an abandonment. So ask yourself, why is this person there? What's the story?
Also your shots are a little too centered. The rule of thirds is the easiest way to make your shots better. http://en.wikipedi...iki/Rule_of_thirds
Like the shots btw.
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