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 Harvestman
    
Location: Somewhere in SORTA/TANK Territory!
Gender: Male
Everything about me has a poker face.
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<Reply # 181 on 5/25/2012 9:56 PM >
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How can you attack someone who just gave you candy?
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With the candy?
Oh good, my slow clap processor made it into this thing.
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bonnie&clyde
  
Location: 510 & 415
Cleverly disguised as responsible adults
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<Reply # 182 on 5/26/2012 2:31 AM >
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With the candy?
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A King size would fuck you up. Then taste great. WinWin for the bum.
c
The question is not when are we gonna stop, It's who's gonna stop us?
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Spiritwalker
Location: Canada
Gender: Female
What is the difference between exploring and being lost?"
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<Reply # 183 on 5/26/2012 3:12 AM >
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“Develop a built-in bullshit detector.”Ernest Hemingway
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Harvestman
Location: Somewhere in SORTA/TANK Territory!
Gender: Male
Everything about me has a poker face.
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<Reply # 184 on 5/27/2012 8:07 PM >
| | | | Posted by bonnie&clyde
A King size would fuck you up. Then taste great. WinWin for the bum.
c
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I was thinking a Nerds Rope could do some serious damage.
Or you could just feed them black licorice. That shit is lethal.
Oh good, my slow clap processor made it into this thing.
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Spiritwalker
Location: Canada
Gender: Female
What is the difference between exploring and being lost?"
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<Reply # 185 on 5/27/2012 8:37 PM >
| | | | Posted by HarvestmanMan
I was thinking a Nerds Rope could do some serious damage.
Or you could just feed them black licorice. That shit is lethal.
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Black licorice gives you lethal shit
“Develop a built-in bullshit detector.”Ernest Hemingway
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subtilis
Location: Providence, RI
Gender: Male
UER's Resident Mycologist
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<Reply # 186 on 5/30/2012 5:21 AM >
| | | | Posted by tribeachpunk
"Hello Mr. Bear, can I interest you in a candy bar or some cigarettes?"
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If it worked, I would start a religion to worship that bear
It's not the smokes makin' me sick, It's standing out in the cold to smoke em' |
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Keaven
Location: 15 miles from the Grassy Knoll
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 187 on 5/30/2012 5:14 PM >
| | | | Posted by Goosey
I think the apparent obsession with "defense" (especially using deadly weapons )topic is ridiculous... you're unlikely to be attacked by anyone, never mind in the uninhabited locations in which exploring takes place.
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This! So much discussion on an unlikely occurence.
However, if you have to enter through an area where you have concerns, don't be stupid! There are places where you are more likely to be safe when you go in a small group. The other explorers don't have to be trained combatants either.
Posted by Goosey
Second, it's a bit concerning reading all the "knife fighting" posts. Knife fighting doesn't exist, the blades are too short and if your "opponent" has a knife either one of you will run away or you'll both get cut.
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Yeah, this is also quite true. To be blunt, these guys who tell us what they know about knife fighting have never actually been in a knife fight; they have only had some training in the subject.
Posted by Goosey
... Knives for protection is a stupid idea. A big stick would work better and get you in less trouble.
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Yep. A big knife is illegal to carry and would lose to a big stick or to any firearm.
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SuchundFind
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 188 on 5/31/2012 3:57 PM >
| | | | Posted by Keaven
Yep. A big knife is illegal to carry and would lose to a big stick or to any firearm.
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Define big.
I remember taking a shelter class, and big was defined this way.
In NY any kind of knife is illegal, in Louisiana a bowie knife is acceptable.
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Goosey
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<Reply # 189 on 5/31/2012 6:45 PM >
| | | | Posted by SuchundFind
Define big.
I remember taking a shelter class, and big was defined this way.
In NY any kind of knife is illegal, in Louisiana a bowie knife is acceptable.
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Big in my mind is at minimum a 6-inch blade going up to a foot... most people have no need to carry a knife like that in an urban setting, which is usually where "urban" exploration takes place.
A knife of any kind is a poor option for self-defense, it lacks range and most lack the power to actually stop a determined assailant. I stabbed myself quite hard by accident a while back, had to go to emergency but here's the thing: it didn't hurt, not then, not a day after and not now. Many times people just think they are getting punched when they are actually being stabbed.
Knives work for killing unsuspecting people, apart from that, they are relatively poor weapons.
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Keaven
Location: 15 miles from the Grassy Knoll
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 190 on 6/1/2012 12:08 PM >
| | | | Posted by SuchundFind
Define big.
I remember taking a shelter class, and big was defined this way.
In NY any kind of knife is illegal, in Louisiana a bowie knife is acceptable.
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Such,
Here in Texas, an "illegal knife" includes one with a blade over 5 1/2 inches long, any throwing knife and any kind of dagger.
Sec. 46.02. UNLAWFUL CARRYING WEAPONS. (a) A person commits an offense if the person intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly carries on or about his or her person a handgun, illegal knife, or club if the person is not: (1) on the person's own premises or premises under the person's control; or(2) inside of or directly en route to a motor vehicle or watercraft that is owned by the person or under the person's control...
(b) Except as provided by Subsection (c), an offense under this section is a Class A misdemeanor.(c) An offense under this section is a felony of the third degree if the offense is committed on any premises licensed or issued a permit by this state for the sale of alcoholic beverages.
http://www.statute...s/PE/htm/PE.46.htm
Note: the term "illegal knife" is a bit misleading, it really means a knife that is illegal to carry.
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SuchundFind
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 191 on 6/1/2012 6:55 PM >
| | | | Posted by Keaven
Here in Texas, an "illegal knife" includes one with a blade over 5 1/2 inches long, any throwing knife and any kind of dagger.
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As I said, this was a shelter class, not a law enforcement class.
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Keaven
Location: 15 miles from the Grassy Knoll
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 192 on 6/1/2012 9:45 PM >
| | | | Posted by SuchundFind
As I said, this was a shelter class, not a law enforcement class.
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You also said "define 'big'". I didn't mean to be argumentative. I meant to give you a legit answer with the specific legal definition in your state.
Everyone who considers carrying a knife should know his local laws.
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HipsterKitty
Location: Lawrenceville, Georgia
Gender: Female
I'm not a real hipster, but I am a real kitty.
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<Reply # 193 on 6/5/2012 5:43 PM >
| | | | I have my own weird rituals for defense. By which I mean I use absolutely none.
I'll knock on the door before going in, of course, and then announce my presence and whatnot. But I always try to make it known that I'm really weak right off the bat. I dunno... I just hope that if there's a psychopath in there, he won't use excessive force if he knows that I cannot put up a fight no matter what. And, either way, I'd rather just deal with it and get robbed and/or raped than try to fight and end up dead.
Probably not the best approach, but it works when I know I can't win.
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bonnie&clyde
Location: 510 & 415
Cleverly disguised as responsible adults
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<Reply # 194 on 6/5/2012 6:12 PM >
| | | | Posted by HipsterKitty
I'd rather just deal with it and get robbed and/or raped than try to fight and end up dead.
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I will fight till the death. I will NEVER "let" myself be a victim.
c
The question is not when are we gonna stop, It's who's gonna stop us?
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Asher0719
Location: MSP
Gender: Female
The World Abandoned
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<Reply # 195 on 6/5/2012 11:12 PM >
| | | | Posted by bonnie&clyde
I will fight till the death. I will NEVER "let" myself be a victim.
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Agreed.
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sara'mer
Location: WNC
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<Reply # 196 on 6/7/2012 2:42 AM >
| | | | Posted by HipsterKitty
I dunno... I just hope that if there's a psychopath in there, he won't use excessive force if he knows that I cannot put up a fight no matter what. And, either way, I'd rather just deal with it and get robbed and/or raped than try to fight and end up dead. |
I'm female and usually explore alone, so I know how intimidating some situations can be... that said, are you sure you can count on psychopaths to *just* rob/rape?
If in danger, I would rather run, hide or fight (haha, me in a fight... that would probably not end well, but better that than handing myself over for who knows what!)
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Maybe you're being too polite? Anyone in there is probably trespassing too. Why not just stay quiet and alert and if there's a weird situation, try to creep away without being noticed?
they call me the hyacinth girl |
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HipsterKitty
Location: Lawrenceville, Georgia
Gender: Female
I'm not a real hipster, but I am a real kitty.
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<Reply # 197 on 6/7/2012 3:32 AM >
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I'm female and usually explore alone, so I know how intimidating some situations can be... that said, are you sure you can count on psychopaths to *just* rob/rape?
If in danger, I would rather run, hide or fight (haha, me in a fight... that would probably not end well, but better that than handing myself over for who knows what!)
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You do have a point... I mean, I can and will run like crazy. (only one time I had to so far, and it was a false alarm. Still, I'm surprised at myself for being so... almost badass. From the front of a house, through the glass door at the back (and I do mean through- Instead of stopping to unlock it, I held my bag against my shoulder and just threw myself at the door. Only one small cut.) and through a patch of thorns and barbed wire. Even after all that, I was able to run the remaining ~500 feet back to my bike before it settled in that I was bleeding.) I guess I just mean that, in the event somebody actually catches me, I'll give him anything and everything if it means getting home in one piece.
Posted by Hotwired Heart
Maybe you're being too polite? Anyone in there is probably trespassing too. Why not just stay quiet and alert and if there's a weird situation, try to creep away without being noticed?
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Well, yes, but I just mean I do it as a precaution no matter what, even if it's silent. Just a light knock and then I say I'm just looking around, I'm unarmed (that's a lie- While I'm willing to give up, I will put up a fight if it's clear I won't be left alive otherwise), and that I'll leave immediately if anyone is there. Yes, anyone in there is trespassing too, but I'd hate to walk into a meth lab or something if I'm not welcome.
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Goosey
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<Reply # 198 on 6/8/2012 12:18 AM >
| | | | Posted by HipsterKittyI guess I just mean that, in the event somebody actually catches me, I'll give him anything and everything if it means getting home in one piece.
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Probably not a good idea, since if you don't put up any resistance (a) you are their dream victim and (b) they will be able to tie you up, bring you to a secondary location, do whatever they want, and by the time you figure out you may not make it out alive it could be too late.
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HipsterKitty
Location: Lawrenceville, Georgia
Gender: Female
I'm not a real hipster, but I am a real kitty.
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<Reply # 199 on 6/8/2012 12:32 AM >
| | | | I know what you mean, but I think I'm just not explaining myself right.
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