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 Ikaros
  
Location: Dallas, TX
Gender: Male
 |  | Help Me Not Suck At Photography
< on 4/13/2010 2:18 AM >
|  | | | This is my first attempt at exploring with a buddy of mine...I took one shot and then just chilled for a bit.
It was a 4 second exposure, with a Panasonic LX2.
F2.8, ISO 100, 0 Step exposure bias.
Not that I know what any of that means besides exposure time and ISO, but I'm learning.
My main question is what should I have done differently. I tried to edit it, but I don't like the edit much better. I'm a very skilled graphic designer, but the photography part is new to me...
Original:
Quick Edit:
Feel free to rip me to shreds, I'm a newbie and I know I'm garbage at this haha.
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insanedArk
    
Location: GTA
Gender: Male
| | Re: Help Me Not Suck At Photography
<Reply # 1 on 4/13/2010 2:24 AM >
| | | | Alright. To help you out, well I've got to say there's no subject in the shot. If you were trying to take a record shot of the building and the field, well, there's not much room for creativity there. With the edited version, I think you went overboard with the sharpening.
I think you should try shooting from the same spot but use a flashlight to light up the stands. Also make sure you use a tripod and that the horizon is level.
Stay tuned for Exploring the World with Insane Dick! |
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yokes
Location: Toronto
Gender: Male
I aim to misbehave
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<Reply # 2 on 4/13/2010 2:26 AM >
| | | | #1 is nicely exposed. It could be cropped differently to remove some of the black areas. #2 is WAY WAY WAY over sharpened.
The photo is a little crooked as well.
f2.8 is the aperture the photo was taken at. The aperture is the size of the opening (larger the opening, greater the amount of light gets in for a given shutter speed).
http://digital-pho...igital-photography
"Great architecture has only two natural enemies: water and stupid men." - Richard Nickel |
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Liska
Location: Western Massachusetts
Gender: Female
| | Re: Help Me Not Suck At Photography
<Reply # 3 on 4/13/2010 2:27 AM >
| | | | Well... my first question to you is...
Why did you only take one shot?
very, very rarely does every single image that a photographer takes turn out. Most people have a ratio- which means a certain number of images that are "keepers" vs those you throw away. I take maybe 400 images, 70 of those are worth looking at for a second time, and only 20 of those remotely resemble keepers, while maybe 5-8 of them are trophies.
So, again, why did you take only one shot?
Move around, look for unusual angles, unusual lighting. Shapes, colours, anything along those lines. Photography is about showing a place/thing/person through your own eyes, and sometimes about taking a unique approach to a oft photographed subject.
With that said, I like where you were heading with the second shot, but it seem to be over sharpened. Would soften that up some, and fix your horizons so it's straight. I really like the outline of the bleachers, but would have actually liked to see it frame the shot- i.e. part of the campus shot with it as an outline (if that makes any sense? it's late, sorry!)
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Ikaros
Location: Dallas, TX
Gender: Male
| | Re: Help Me Not Suck At Photography
<Reply # 4 on 4/13/2010 2:28 AM >
| | | | Heh yeah I noticed that the photo was way over sharpened when I looked at it...I was editing it in a much smaller size so I didn't notice at the time...eugh that is ugly.
There wasn't really a subject I had in mind...I just wanted a cool overview of the complex.
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insanedArk
Location: GTA
Gender: Male
| | Re: Help Me Not Suck At Photography
<Reply # 5 on 4/13/2010 2:32 AM >
| | | | Posted by Ikaros
There wasn't really a subject I had in mind...I just wanted a cool overview of the complex.
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You should definitely go back and shoot again. I find that I stick to boring shots to record the place on my first visit, and if I can go back, I usually notice more details and get more creative.
Stay tuned for Exploring the World with Insane Dick! |
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\/adder
Location: DunkarooLand
Gender: Male
I'm the worst of the best but I'm in this race.
| | | Re: Help Me Not Suck At Photography
<Reply # 6 on 4/13/2010 2:50 AM >
| | | | Your camera goes up to a 60" exposure in manual mode.
Go here to learn about photography:
http://stopshootin...-lessons-in-order/
Exposure Time and Aperture control how much light enters your camera
ISO is a number that represents your camera's sensor's sensitivity to light. The higher the number the more grain (noise).
Exposure time -- self explaining.
Aperture -- width of the opening -- also the lower the number the less in focus -- f/5.6 to f/16 is a good number to shoot with I wouldn't go more or less for landscape shots.
When you change one value you must change a corresponding value.
If the proper exposure was ISO 100 f/2.8 4":
and you increased the aperture a full stop to f/4
you would need to double one of the other values
eg ISO200 f/4 4" || ISO100 f/4 8"
to bring it up another stop to f/5.6
you would need to double the values again
eg. ISO 200 f/5.6 8" || ISO100 f/5.6 16" || ISO400 f/2.8 4"
to bring it up another stop from there to f/8 (many find this an ideal aperture)
you would need to double the values again
ISO 100 f/8 32" but the nearest choice 30" or 60" ... based on proper exposure would be under and over exposed.
ISO 200 f/8 16" would give a minimal grain and provide a properly exposed image if you initial meter was correct.
But this image is too dark (aka underexposed) and I would recommend a longer setting
ISO 100 f/8 60" would have been my choice or ISO 800 f/8 8" for a quick and dirty shot.
"No risk, no reward, no fun."
"Go all the way or walk away"
escensi omnis... |
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Ikaros
Location: Dallas, TX
Gender: Male
| | Re: Help Me Not Suck At Photography
<Reply # 7 on 4/13/2010 2:52 AM >
| | | | Answers to above questions...
Why only one shot? I actually took 3, but they were all in the same location. I guess I didn't really use my creativity too much on this one haha. Next time I'll take loads of shots! 
Also, we definitely plan on going back. The main reason we went there was for the huge water tower on the back that overlooks the whole place. It's got one of those covers over the ladder, so were going to buy some climbing gear and do it properly soon.
Planning on getting a sunrise photo or two as well
Anyways, after seeing my horrible edit full size, I started all over from scratch, trying to listen to some of the suggestions...turned out much better in my opinion.
[last edit 4/13/2010 9:20 PM by Ikaros - edited 1 times]
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Neil T
Location: Toronto
Gender: Male
| | | Re: Help Me Not Suck At Photography
<Reply # 8 on 4/13/2010 9:09 PM >
| | | | I just don't think the composition is very good. Once you've found an interesting shot, then worry about dialing in the exposure and everything correctly. Start off with easier things and focus on composition first.
I am Bidong blog. Traveler. Urban Explorer. Gentle Lover. http://www.iambidong.com |
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bdgr
Location: Chicago Adjacent
Gender: Male
| | Re: Help Me Not Suck At Photography
<Reply # 9 on 4/14/2010 1:46 AM >
| | | | Two centered, comp wise. Rule of thirds,
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gr8fzy1
Location: Waterbury, CT
Gender: Male
Fewer and Fewer...
| |  | | Re: Help Me Not Suck At Photography
<Reply # 10 on 4/24/2010 1:48 AM >
| | | | What exactly were you attempting to show with this shot? Just a general view of the complex? Were you trying to capture some detail obliterated by the darkness? Or were you just trying to catch the place at night and amplify the mood? What were your intentions with this photo?
Example, I edited your photo a little bit on my own, trying to bring out a bit in the foreground without washing out the building or the sky. As you'll see, your camera caught a LOT more detail in the bleachers than you though. Also I managed to lighten the sky a bit without lightening the building, then cropped it an sharpened it a little. I think it catches the eye more and may better set the mood of the place for you.
[last edit 4/24/2010 1:59 AM by gr8fzy1 - edited 1 times]
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Empty hallways decades old,
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TurboZutek
King Dick
Location: Scotland
Gender: Male
Giant octo-penised rapephant
| |  | | Re: Help Me Not Suck At Photography
<Reply # 11 on 4/24/2010 3:25 PM >
| | | | Simple rule (remember this one, everyone forgets it sometimes) - the post processed picture should always look BETTER than what you started with.
If it doesn't, you did something wrong in post; throw it out and start again.
Chris...
We all had ostriches. My dad had an ostrich farm! I remember one day someone came in and said the high altitude bombing of Kosovo had been a limited success, so we all went out and celebrated… by killing an ostrich and boiling it in kiwi fruit. |
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pkrearden
Location: Funkytown, TX
Gender: Male
| | Re: Help Me Not Suck At Photography
<Reply # 12 on 4/27/2010 1:21 AM >
| | | | I usually try to get as much right in-camera as possible. the less post you have to do, the better the image.
"there is no devil, there's just god when he drinks." - Tom Waits |
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