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 mr.v
Location: Rhode Island
Gender: Male
"Man cannot separate means and enlightenment"
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<Reply # 20 on 2/18/2010 8:00 PM >
|  | | | Personally I would give one of the Micro 4/3 a go, maybe the Olympus EP-1. (the Ep-2 is the same, just more expensive/new.) Only thing that pissed me off about these cameras is the stupidity on the part of the companies for not having an optical viewfinder. However you can get one to go on the hotshoe which is supposed to work well enough.
(but god, I want a Leica)
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victoria-
 
Location: The Great North, Ontario
Gender: Female
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<Reply # 21 on 2/18/2010 9:54 PM >
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(but god, I want a Leica)
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holy shit do want Leica m9
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mr.v
Location: Rhode Island
Gender: Male
"Man cannot separate means and enlightenment"
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<Reply # 22 on 2/18/2010 11:24 PM >
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The Canon G11 is a great little camera. It's got plenty of features including (standard definition) video and can shoot in macro mode. It would likely serve you perfectly.
I had been using a G9 as my carry around camera for two years until it recently refused to wake up. I was heading out of town in under a week so knowing there would be no opportunity to get the G9 repaired in time I picked up a G10 (not likely you'll find any left in southern Ontario - it was replaced by the G11). The major difference between the G10 & the G11 is the reduced megapixel count in the newer G11 - whatever you do, don't get wrapped up in how many megapixels your camera has. My first digital SLR was a Nikon D1 with 2.74MP. Reproduced great in magazines and newspapers and printed just fine up to 11x14 under proper conditions. The G11 dropped to 10-odd MP from the G10's 14-something. So what. Megapaixels are not the be-all end-all.
Really it comes down to; what, ultimately is important to you. Are you going to be buying more lenses down the road? Is ease of carrying important? A G11 is a lot more compact than a Rebel, and as far as creative control is concerned, you have at least as much with the G11; everywhere from full auto to full manual (including manual focus).
I've been a professional photographer for pushing 20 years. I have always been a Nikon guy (currently have a pair of D3's and a D700, plus an IR-only D200 and a D5000 to mess a little with video), but the Canon G-Series kicks serious ass.
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From what I've heard, the G10 is preferable to the G11. (A couple of my friends have G10s and were looking into the 11). And being the last model, it'd be scheaper
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Muskoka
 
Location: Toronto
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 23 on 2/19/2010 1:02 AM >
| | | | Posted by mr.v
From what I've heard, the G10 is preferable to the G11. (A couple of my friends have G10s and were looking into the 11). And being the last model, it'd be scheaper
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I don't entirely disagree. I found likely the last new G10 in the Greater Toronto Area after much searching. However, that was roughly a month ago & you'd be pretty hard pressed to find a G10 now.
The price has also dropped on the G11 in recent weeks from $570 to $520.
Something I neglected to add in my first post: The main reason Canon reduced the MP count in the G11 vs the G10 was in an effort to reduce noise at higher ISOs. That said, with a sensor the size of a postage stamp it's still pretty useless at 400 or higher, so a small tripod of some description will always help allowing you to use ISOs 400 or lower.
As for the Leica conversation...I'll stick with my M4-P.
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victoria-
Location: The Great North, Ontario
Gender: Female
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<Reply # 24 on 2/19/2010 1:18 AM >
| | | | So i just found out we have a Pentax k1000 is it good?1.
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Air
   
Location: Canada
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<Reply # 25 on 2/19/2010 2:06 AM >
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So i just found out we have a Pentax k1000 is it good?1.
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its what you do with it.....
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metawaffle
  
King of Puns
Location: Brisbane!
Gender: Male
Purveyor of Fine Lampshades
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<Reply # 26 on 2/19/2010 2:07 AM >
| | | | Posted by victoria-
So i just found out we have a Pentax k1000 is it good?1.
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It's a manual film camera - still popular with enthusiasts, but probably not terribly useful for your trip.
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willskith
Location: Boston, MA
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 27 on 2/19/2010 2:36 PM >
| | | | Posted by victoria-
So i just found out we have a Pentax k1000 is it good?1.
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Yes. Shooting film is way more fun than digital. And the hundreds of dollars you will save can pay for film and processing for a few years.
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NeonTempest
Location: Standing by a white house
Gender: Male
()_o
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<Reply # 28 on 2/19/2010 3:46 PM >
| | | | Depends though on how much you shoot and how familiar you are with Film.
I started on Film and after BURNING $50 on film and muckin' up a few times, I opted to go digital, until I had a better idea of what I was doing before shooting film.
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Air
Location: Canada
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<Reply # 29 on 2/19/2010 5:01 PM >
| | | | Posted by NeonTempest
Depends though on how much you shoot and how familiar you are with Film.
I started on Film and after BURNING $50 on film and muckin' up a few times, I opted to go digital, until I had a better idea of what I was doing before shooting film.
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How about this...get a new battery for the light meter (so your readings are right) order some $1 recently expired film on ebay and then read the manual. Shot 4-5 rolls before your trip to get a feel for it. Since that cameras free, the OP can now save the $500 or so dollars to send on something else.
You can even get developing and a scan for $3-$4 so you don't need to pay for the prints unless you get them.
That and buy two extra batteries for your trip 
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TrixieSparrow
Location: Hamilton, ON
Gender: Female
I guess.
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<Reply # 30 on 2/19/2010 7:51 PM >
| | | | Posted by Air 33
How about this...get a new battery for the light meter (so your readings are right) order some $1 recently expired film on ebay and then read the manual. Shot 4-5 rolls before your trip to get a feel for it. Since that cameras free, the OP can now save the $500 or so dollars to send on something else.
You can even get developing and a scan for $3-$4 so you don't need to pay for the prints unless you get them.
That and buy two extra batteries for your trip
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And If the OP is going to go with her film camera, I think we have the winning post right here.
Best plan I have seen so far.
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Air
Location: Canada
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<Reply # 31 on 2/19/2010 9:21 PM >
| | | | I was actually given a similar camera with about 5 lenses. I kept the lenses but not the camera as the light meter just wasn't as sophisticated as I was used to. They are very nice cameras, and film will be more forgiving with you anyhow if you don't know what your doing. I don't recommend digital especially since you need to learn and acquire programs like PS / PS elements or lightroom, aperture anyhow for work flow, if your short on cash.
Free is always good especially if its in good working order. If the camera isn't its not worth fixing, but you can have good film bodies for $20-$60 on ebay.
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dynastar666
Location: Burlington, VT
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 32 on 2/21/2010 2:34 PM >
| | | | Posted by Air 33
Actually the 10d was the last body to be made of Magnesium. I had one and its amazing. They can be had for less then $200 now. Spend the rest on lenses, which is what you should do if you decided to go with a dslr.
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That's actually not true. My 40d and my 1d both have magnesium bodies.
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Air
Location: Canada
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<Reply # 33 on 2/21/2010 2:42 PM >
| | | | Posted by dynastar666
That's actually not true. My 40d and my 1d both have magnesium bodies.
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The 40d isn't a magnesium body, unless canon is falsely marketing them as such. When looking at the 30d a while back the sales guy tried telling me the plastic was actually better then the magnesium body because it was lighter. LOL.
Its plastic, even the 50d. The only current magnesium bodies are the 1 series that are justified in price to be anything other then cheap plastic.
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TuxThePenguin
Location: De Pere, WI
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 34 on 2/21/2010 3:52 PM >
| | | | My recommendation would be to spring for the Canon Rebel T1i with the kit lens, and pick up a filter kit from Amazon. I have one and it works great. Sure, I haven't been out to UE with it yet but for what I have used it for so far, it hasn't let let me down yet.
And yes, I know, stock lens. It actually works pretty well.
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dynastar666
Location: Burlington, VT
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 35 on 2/22/2010 12:09 AM >
| | | | Posted by Air 33
The 40d isn't a magnesium body, unless canon is falsely marketing them as such. When looking at the 30d a while back the sales guy tried telling me the plastic was actually better then the magnesium body because it was lighter. LOL.
Its plastic, even the 50d. The only current magnesium bodies are the 1 series that are justified in price to be anything other then cheap plastic.
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Where are you getting your info? The only Canon SLRs with plastic chassis and bodies are the Rebel series. I'm not trying to make a big stink about it I'm just a stickler for accurate info.
From the Canon USA website
| Strong, rugged build quality: magnesium-alloy exterior. |
From DP Review
while a strong magnesium alloy body with weather resistance ensures lasting durability.
Body Material: Magnesium Alloy |
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Air
Location: Canada
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<Reply # 36 on 2/22/2010 1:32 AM >
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Where are you getting your info? The only Canon SLRs with plastic chassis and bodies are the Rebel series. I'm not trying to make a big stink about it I'm just a stickler for accurate info.
From the Canon USA website
From DP Review
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That's odd I can't find reference to it in any of the DP articles. Apparently is a magnesium inner and outer plastic coated body (for the 30d) If you have ever used the 10d or even the 1d, I don't see how they can say its the same outer body. Granted the 1d cameras are larger, but the mid range canons are NOT as weatherproof. That said I have been out in the with mine in the rain, its been dropped, and I even fell onto my d40 (entry level Nikon) and have had no issues yet. A few here have dropped rebels and 30ds into water and not had issues either.
That's not to say they shouldn't be durable, but I really liked the build quality of the 10d, and even the 20 and haven't seen such quality in that range before. Even the 5d's are not as weatherproof as the 1 series.
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dynastar666
Location: Burlington, VT
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 37 on 2/22/2010 4:07 AM >
| | | | Posted by Air 33
That's odd I can't find reference to it in any of the DP articles. Apparently is a magnesium inner and outer plastic coated body (for the 30d) If you have ever used the 10d or even the 1d, I don't see how they can say its the same outer body. Granted the 1d cameras are larger, but the mid range canons are NOT as weatherproof. That said I have been out in the with mine in the rain, its been dropped, and I even fell onto my d40 (entry level Nikon) and have had no issues yet. A few here have dropped rebels and 30ds into water and not had issues either.
That's not to say they shouldn't be durable, but I really liked the build quality of the 10d, and even the 20 and haven't seen such quality in that range before. Even the 5d's are not as weatherproof as the 1 series.
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Most of the magnesium body cameras (if you ever get the chance to take a canon dslr apart you will see this)use a magnesium chassis and the various electronics are mounted to this. The bodies are then coated in a plastic coating to provide a durable finish. That being said, even with magnesium construction of the XXd/Xd series (with the exception of the 7d to some extent) are not very well sealed against the elements. It's tough to do while maintaining dials and a pop-up flash. I routinely soak my 1dMarkII+17-40mm F/4L (pouring rain/sleet/snow) and I've never had any issues but there camera is extremely well sealed compared to anything else.
I shoot photos.
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mikenike605
Location: PDX Camas, WA
i like to take pictures
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<Reply # 38 on 3/1/2010 10:37 PM >
| | | | Posted by victoria-
So i just found out we have a Pentax k1000 is it good?1.
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I have that camera, it is great. I just advise that you play with it and make sure that you know what your doing before relying on it.
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bdgr
Location: Chicago Adjacent
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 39 on 3/2/2010 9:53 PM >
| | | | Posted by dynastar666
Most of the magnesium body cameras (if you ever get the chance to take a canon dslr apart you will see this)use a magnesium chassis and the various electronics are mounted to this. The bodies are then coated in a plastic coating to provide a durable finish. That being said, even with magnesium construction of the XXd/Xd series (with the exception of the 7d to some extent) are not very well sealed against the elements. It's tough to do while maintaining dials and a pop-up flash. I routinely soak my 1dMarkII+17-40mm F/4L (pouring rain/sleet/snow) and I've never had any issues but there camera is extremely well sealed compared to anything else.
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well, the 10D is definately hevier than the others, and better built...especially the grip. The 1D grip was awesome.
Going from my 30D to my 1d Mark III is a noticeable weight difference for sure. but I beleive on the 5D and 7D even the grip is magnesium.
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