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 Chris-Kicker
     
Location: New York, NY
Gender: Male
no, I did not Kick Chris.
 |  |  | airplanes (help figure out my camera)
< on 2/13/2010 11:15 PM >
|  | | | i recently purchased my first dslr (an Olympus e-20n). i figured digital would be cheaper than film but it eats through them  ...
anyway ive had issues figuring out iso settings, and the shutter speed kinda stuff.. all my pictures turn out being to bright and i dont know what settings to use to improve them. i think i had it at 200iso.
i dun like to say it, but im a noob with dslr's right now.. so im asking for your help..
let me know the GOODS and bads please 
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i decided to make two of them have an old toy camera look due to the lighting being off:
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Thanks guys!!
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Chris-Kicker
Location: New York, NY
Gender: Male
no, I did not Kick Chris.
| | | Re: airplanes (help figure out my camera)
<Reply # 1 on 2/14/2010 2:33 AM >
| | | | :'( please anyone?
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Location: DunkarooLand
Gender: Male
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| | | Re: airplanes (help figure out my camera)
<Reply # 2 on 2/14/2010 5:13 AM >
| | | | http://stopshootin...-lessons-in-order/
"No risk, no reward, no fun."
"Go all the way or walk away"
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bandito
Location: Northern NJ
Gender: Male
| | Re: airplanes (help figure out my camera)
<Reply # 3 on 2/15/2010 3:31 PM >
| | | | The last two are interesting but your composition is off for a lot of them. work on that.
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STACKflyer
Location: del a where?
shutter pimp!
| | Re: airplanes (help figure out my camera)
<Reply # 4 on 2/15/2010 3:55 PM >
| | | | I would say get up closer to your subject. Try the rule of thirds and try not always shooting from your standard tourist stance.
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Chris-Kicker
Location: New York, NY
Gender: Male
no, I did not Kick Chris.
| | | Re: airplanes (help figure out my camera)
<Reply # 5 on 2/16/2010 1:18 AM >
| | | | ill agree its something i will work on. but I've had issues with getting the settings right. so while i was out shooting i was more worried about getting the lighting correct. and so figuring out the settings is what I'm focusing on more at the moment.
thanks guys! anything else anybody's got to say would be nice.
-chris.
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DrRJones
Location: Hayward Ca
Gender: Male
I am become death
| |  | Re: airplanes (help figure out my camera)
<Reply # 6 on 2/16/2010 1:55 AM >
| | | | poor little army scout plane. Thats the kinda thing you restore.
I heart planes.
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DJ Craig
  
Moderator
Location: Johnson City, TN
Gender: Male
Break the Silence
| | | | Re: airplanes (help figure out my camera)
<Reply # 7 on 2/18/2010 8:45 PM >
| | | | You are working in difficult conditions. Hard sunlight is always difficult to meter for because you get such wide dynamic range (meaning the brightest areas in the shots are way brighter than the darkest areas). For a place like this, I would set your camera's ISO as low as it will go and just leave it there. You only need to raise your ISO if you're shooting handheld in low-light conditions (and using a tripod is always better than raising the ISO), or if you're shooting things that are moving in low-light conditions. Raising the ISO means you will get more grain.
Your main control over overall exposure if you're shooting in program mode, which I'm assuming you are, is your EV or exposure compensation. Look it up in your cameras manual. That will let you manually make your camera meter for over or under exposure while in auto mode. But you should also try to gain a good understand of exposure and aperture values, and don't let program mode become a crutch.
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injektilo
Location: The Northeast
Gender: Male
Ride or Die
| | | | Re: airplanes (help figure out my camera)
<Reply # 8 on 2/18/2010 9:48 PM >
| | | | Congratulations you've bought into a dead line of olympus cameras.
Learn how to use what you have and instead of trying to buy new glass for that camera save your money and get something a little less obsolete.
edit: lol this isn't a dslr
from olympus's site
Why does the Olympus E-20N have a built-in lens instead of having interchangeable lenses?
The built-in lens "all-in-one" designed to be digital, which means it is specifically matched to the CCD. Cameras offering interchangeable lenses are designed for 35mm film, which usually does not have sufficient resolution for a Megapixel CCD sensor. When interchangeable lenses are removed from the body, the CCD and internal mechanisms are exposed to dust in the environment. Contaminants are a much bigger problem on digital cameras since the CCD is much smaller that a 35mm film plane.
One of the primary reasons for using interchangeable lenses is for a wide variety of focal lengths. The E-20N contains a 4x optical zoom 9mm-36mm (35mm-140mm equivalent in 35mm photography) built-in lens. In addition, there are wide angle, telephoto and macro add-on lenses. Some interchangeable lenses cost as much as the E-20 camera itself. Other lenses that were originally designed for film cameras do not deliver same focal length on a film camera as a digital camera. For example, a wide-angle 28mm lens attached to a digital camera would only provide 56mm equivalence.
This system offers great flexibility and will suit approximately 95% of most shooting needs. |
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Vellian
Location: Binghamton NY
Gender: Male
| | Re: airplanes (help figure out my camera)
<Reply # 9 on 2/19/2010 11:55 AM >
| | | | From my experience I shoot with the ISO as low as possible, I set it to aperture priority and I bracket my exposures, If your camera offer automatic exposure bracketing try it out. I means you take one at EV 0 Ev +1 EV -1 , Basically read the manual and shoot shoot shoot, also read some books by Tom Ang, His book how to photograph everything is a decent intro
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Chris-Kicker
Location: New York, NY
Gender: Male
no, I did not Kick Chris.
| | | Re: airplanes (help figure out my camera)
<Reply # 10 on 2/21/2010 8:44 AM >
| | | | Posted by injektilo
Congratulations you've bought into a dead line of olympus cameras.
Learn how to use what you have and instead of trying to buy new glass for that camera save your money and get something a little less obsolete.
edit: lol this isn't a dslr
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you troll...
just going to have to throw in the fact that dslr means "digital single-lens reflex" and it has to do with how the insides work, not if its lens is removable.
i know its an older camera, no shit....... that's not what i needed you to tell me asshole.
also, thanks Craig and Vellian, that was the area i was gray in... helpfulness means you guys deserve cookies
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DJ Craig
Moderator
Location: Johnson City, TN
Gender: Male
Break the Silence
| | | | Re: airplanes (help figure out my camera)
<Reply # 11 on 2/22/2010 1:43 AM >
| | | | Posted by Chris-Kicker
you troll...
just going to have to throw in the fact that dslr means "digital single-lens reflex" and it has to do with how the insides work, not if its lens is removable.
i know its an older camera, no shit....... that's not what i needed you to tell me asshole.
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I don't think Injekt really meant that to sound as harshly as you took it. It's a forum thing; people sound meaner than they intend to all the time. I've explored with Injekt and he's definitely not a troll...
And, although you may technically be right about that camera being a DSLR (I honestly don't know), most people will at least look at you funny if you call a camera without interchangeable lenses a DSLR. Doesn't mean you're wrong; I'm just saying.
I also don't buy all that Olympus marketing material claiming that non-interchangeable lenses are superior. It's just a way of trying to spin the shortcomings of a lower-end product to sound better than it is by deliberately misleading you about some technicalities. They just start blabbering on about film and sensor sizes to confuse people and sound technical. The only true advantage of a non-interchangeable lens is that it's cheaper to build.
EDIT: typo
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Chris-Kicker
Location: New York, NY
Gender: Male
no, I did not Kick Chris.
| | | Re: airplanes (help figure out my camera)
<Reply # 12 on 2/22/2010 2:31 AM >
| | | | Posted by DJ Craig
I don't think Injekt really meant that to sound as harshly as you took it. It's a forum thing; people sound meaner than they intend to all the time. I've explored with Injekt and he's definitely not a troll...
And, although you may technically be right about that camera being a DSLR (I honestly don't know), most people will at least look at you funny if you call a camera without interchangeable lenses a DSLR. Doesn't mean you're wrong; I'm just saying.
I also don't buy all that Olympus marketing material claiming that non-interchangeable lenses are superior. It's just a way of trying to spin the shortcomings of a lower-end product to sound better than it is by deliberately misleading you about some technicalities. They just start blabbering on about film and sensor sizes to confuse people and sound technical. The only true advantage of a non-interchangeable lens is that it's cheaper buy build.
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its off topic, and talking shit about my resources. not calling him a troll but his post was very troll like.
i dont have money for the new $1000+ cameras. when i get a chance to buy one for $90 to learn with, then i do. i don't give a shit if its a high end camera. it gives me the controls that a $90 point & shoot camera wouldnt give me..
also please don't think i'm trying to sound mean, or taking any thing harshly. this is a form remember.
*lawls*
edit: thought of an idea. i could always remove the lens with a screwdriver.. bahahaha... then can i be a part of your cool dslr gang?!? 
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mikenike605
Location: PDX Camas, WA
i like to take pictures
| | | Re: airplanes (help figure out my camera)
<Reply # 13 on 3/4/2010 4:43 AM >
| | | | I got to say i think the pictures are pretty good for what you had but i feel like they have alot more potential.
DrRjones is right that is a cool plane, definitely in need of restoration. I'm a plane guy too and would love to fly that thing
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insanebuslady
Location: ?
Gender: Male
"You talkin' to me?"
| | | Re: airplanes (help figure out my camera)
<Reply # 15 on 4/27/2010 4:19 PM >
| | | | Posted by Chris-Kicker
you troll...
just going to have to throw in the fact that dslr means "digital single-lens reflex" and it has to do with how the insides work, not if its lens is removable.
i know its an older camera, no shit....... that's not what i needed you to tell me asshole.
also, thanks Craig and Vellian, that was the area i was gray in... helpfulness means you guys deserve cookies
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Jeez you took that a little personally didnt you?
On topic, those hangars looks awesome! I love a good plane graveyard and those planes aren't in the stripped state that you usually find them. I would try going back when the sun is in a different part of the sky to avoid the overexposure and blown-out whites. You can try fiddling with exposure compensation to fix some of that but personally I've found that it doesn't do shit. Turn the ISO down to get a more even exposure and less noise in the shadows, and don't forget you can brighten the shadows and reduce the highlights in post-pro. Just remember not to overdo it. Also if your lens is threaded, a hood can help reduce glare.
As far as entry-level DSLR, there are some bargains to be had out there which are great to learn on. Here are a few
http://www.bestbuy...1&id=1158323379076
Or for something a little more competent from Nikon
http://www.amazon....5-6G/dp/B002JCSV5I
http://www.google....Q8wIwAw#ps-sellers
http://www.buy.com...409/203396255.html
Pentax is great because there DSLR's (or SLR's) will accept any K-mount lens they've ever made. So although it's body only you could find a cheap prime for nothing
Unlike entry level Nikons which can be picky about which F-mount lenses they'll take
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Sting13
Location: Lake St. John
Gender: Male
| | Re: airplanes (help figure out my camera)
<Reply # 16 on 4/27/2010 11:51 PM >
| | | | To echo some of the other critiques...
- Unless you are in low light conditions, set the ISO speed as low as possible - one of the big reasons is it lessens noise in your pics. As ISO climbs, so does noise in the picture.
- Another commenter mentioned your composition... I concur. The fact you were shooting in very bright light also makes good composition difficult. Try different angles... look at the object differently, or take a picture in a way most people don't see... I liked the mods you made in the last couple of pics... ;)
- And I'll second on Pentax - I use a K10D, and I find it to be a great camera, and it can use most lenses made for Pentax. Some older lenses obviously can't take advantage of certain features...
Sting
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