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UER Forum > Archived Rookie Forum > Police history? (Viewed 1744 times)
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Police history?
< on 2/7/2010 7:16 AM >
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I got caught going into an abandoned high school a couple months back. The cops talked to us for a bit, questioned us, ran our names, ran our plates (or rather, the plate of my fellow explorer, since we'd left my car elsewhere), and let us go. We weren't ticketed fined, or arrested; it came out pretty well as far as dealing with the fuzz goes.

So, what I'm wondering is: to what degree will this incident show up in whatever searches are done on my name in the future? If I get caught again, will the cops know that I've already been busted for trespassing (though I wasn't charged/arrested/etc)?

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Re: Police history?
<Reply # 1 on 2/7/2010 7:35 AM >
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I'd call your local police and ask them - even just as an anonymous, hypothetical question, if you're that worried

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Re: Police history?
<Reply # 2 on 2/7/2010 9:37 AM >
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It depends on what type of record check is done for what type of security clearance you are wanting in the future. Technically speaking though, they are not allowed to not give you a job based on anything that is not a criminal conviction or criminal convictions that have nothing to do with the job you may be applying for. As well if you currently have a job and your planning on staying a good long time, then nothing to worry about ever again. Generally speaking, the police will not provide the information, because you had not been convicted. Some will purge it every so many years. Typically two to five years.
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Re: Police history?
<Reply # 3 on 2/7/2010 3:05 PM >
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Most cops are quite old school in how try remember that information -- especially in small towns. In their line of work they get quite good at mentally remembering names, faces, and license plates. Get caught again by the same guy and you're fucked.

I'd put my money on you only being recorded in that guys mind. If you were somehow logged electronically, again I doubt it'd be logged in any Fed/State/county criminal conviction system which would typically be searched on background checks.

There's a small chance you might be logged in some electronic daily notes for that village's police department, but unless you're working for the FBI or CIA, none of it would ever come up. But, if you are planning on working for the FBI, they'd already make the match between you, your username here, and this post admitting guilt for trespassing

I put money on your being totally okay.

In a slightly different scenario I have sealed records in NYC for some past shenanigans. The sealed records did not prevent me from a international corporation job or a government job (non-CIA,FBI).

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Re: Police history?
<Reply # 4 on 2/7/2010 3:39 PM >
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To be honest, I'm more worried about it reflecting poorly if I get caught again. If they ask "have you ever done this sort of thing before?" can I get away with saying no?

As for the gov't jobs, a great programmer once told me never to get a clearance. You get to do the most interesting work, but you can never tell anyone.

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Re: Police history?
<Reply # 5 on 2/7/2010 3:51 PM >
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Posted by makman
To be honest, I'm more worried about it reflecting poorly if I get caught again. If they ask "have you ever done this sort of thing before?" can I get away with saying no?

Absolutely. Just not in that same town again if caught.... unless you're a master social engineer or ninja.

Posted by makman
As for the gov't jobs, a great programmer once told me never to get a clearance. You get to do the most interesting work, but you can never tell anyone.

Yup. Not they'd ever want me to work for them, but even if so I couldn't deal with my employer ruling so much of my life.


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Re: Police history?
<Reply # 6 on 2/7/2010 5:13 PM >
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Here is what you can count on (this is Canada-based but I'm assuming it is similar to America):

There will be a record of which officer ran your plate and on what date. Other agencies will be able to see that information. It's standard procedure and I would surmise it is purged in due time. It most likely wouldn't say for what reason your name was queried.

There may be a record of the activity. It depends... did the officer just happen to drive upon you exploring and run your names and plates? If so, there isn't likely to be a record of the reason why. The officer would receive the results and be on his way - no paperwork.

Now if someone called in a complaint then an incident number would have been assigned. In that case the officer would be required to complete the information on the database to close the incident. This could be as simple as "subjects gone prior to arrival", "subjects given warning", etc.

Then your name would be entered into the database and associated with that address. If someone ran that address (eg. future arson) your name would appear. If someone ran your name, that address would appear in relation to it.

If the officer took your license and ran your name verbally, there's probably nothing to worry about. If he wrote your names down in his book, then ran them, there would be a record of them and he may have entered your name as having been given a 'warning' when it came time to do the data entry.

It would really depend on if an incident number was assigned (did someone call you in?) and did the officer just close the incident without entering your name.

It's nothing to worry about in relation to future employment though. Remember this is Canadian based so your results may differ.
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Re: Police history?
<Reply # 7 on 3/28/2010 10:32 PM >
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I have been stopped several times on different things. They never bring anything up unless paperwork has been filed.

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Re: Police history?
<Reply # 8 on 3/29/2010 3:46 PM >
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I was recently stopped twice within a week. On the second stop, he mentioned the first. Two different agencies & counties. He asked what the previous hit on my name was for? I said I was stopped for looking like a suspect. But was released, do to the fact It was not me they were looking for. It just mentioned I was recently run. It didn't mention why my name was run. In the US you don't have to disclose any arrest to an employer unless it is a felony. So unless you are trying to get in the FBI or TSA, some place that does a polygraph for full disclosure? I think you will be OK.

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Re: Police history?
<Reply # 9 on 3/29/2010 5:45 PM >
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Heh- fun story: I just interviewed for a job that requires clearance (so I'll need to do a polygraph, background check, etc- urbex is definitely going to come up). Wonder how that'll turn out if I end up getting + accepting the job.

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Re: Police history?
<Reply # 10 on 4/1/2010 10:04 PM >
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I've experienced what happened to you probably at least 30 or 40 times in my life and never had a cop say anything about my record. I was even arrested once (nothing to do with UE) before I was 18 and that has also never been brought up by a cop. I don't think I've ever been questioned twice in the same precinct or county though, or twice within 7 days.

Posted by bonnie&clyde
In the US you don't have to disclose any arrest to an employer unless it is a felony.


I have a particular friend who would be very interested to know this. Any chance you could back it up with a link?

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Re: Police history?
<Reply # 11 on 4/2/2010 2:59 PM >
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I was parked in front of an asylum once..a cop snuck up behind me and gave me an ear-full about being there..he didn't buy my story of being lost and just pulling over to set my GPS..he let me go. At an unrelated location I was stopped by an officer who ran my plates and said it was red-flagged for suspicious behavior..he had the details and all.

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Re: Police history?
<Reply # 12 on 4/2/2010 3:03 PM >
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Posted by chris_007
I was parked in front of an asylum once..a cop snuck up behind me and gave me an ear-full about being there..he didn't buy my story of being lost and just pulling over to set my GPS..he let me go. At an unrelated location I was stopped by an officer who ran my plates and said it was red-flagged for suspicious behavior..he had the details and all.


Sounds like you need to buy a new set of license plates. Or no one is going to want to go urbex with you and your red-flagged car ;)
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Re: Police history?
<Reply # 13 on 4/2/2010 3:06 PM >
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Hahaha..Noo it was a while ago.. I've sense retired that vehicle. No fear. At the time I was thinking of installing the James-Bond license plate cover.

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Re: Police history?
<Reply # 14 on 4/2/2010 3:50 PM >
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Posted by DJ Craig

I have a particular friend who would be very interested to know this. Any chance you could back it up with a link?


I was told this by my lawyer after a non UE related arrest. This was almost 15 years ago now. I have never been questioned about it & it is not listed on those stalker/background check sites. This was a multiple misdemeanor crime not a felony.

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Re: Police history?
<Reply # 15 on 4/14/2010 4:38 AM >
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Interesting. I was caught trespassing a few years ago and they took my name and info and ran it. They let me go, but they also said if I was caught there again I would be arrested. I wonder if they were bluffing or if there is any way to record the incident.

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Re: Police history?
<Reply # 16 on 4/19/2010 3:36 PM >
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My father is a lawyer and I asked him about this. It really all depends on the cop if they arrest you or if they fine you or the best if they let you go. Now when a cop calls in your name to dispatch it goes in to a data base that stores how much and how often you get in contact with the law. But if the cop doesn't write a report then your fine. If he does thats when your car gets a redflag or another jurisdiction can pull up what you have done. Also if for some reason you like to get in contact with the cops a lot then they wont be so lenient.

Like this EX: I was going down 101 in california. I was going 95 in a 45 and a cop got me. I had nothing else on my record so he let me go with a 55 in a 45.

And then you have the mean cops that just like to get poor defenseless teenagers and people doing minor things. All because they ate to many doughnuts and got fat and cant run.

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Re: Police history?
<Reply # 17 on 4/19/2010 8:27 PM >
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I think if asked if you've ever been caught before you just need to pick your words carefully!

Something like 'I've never been in trouble with the Police before' or something generic, which is TRUE because they let you go that one time, right?

I know in the UK, how far they dig sometimes depends on your answer to that magic question.

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Re: Police history?
<Reply # 18 on 4/19/2010 10:11 PM >
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Posted by max13
Like this EX: I was going down 101 in california. I was going 95 in a 45 and a cop got me. I had nothing else on my record so he let me go with a 55 in a 45.

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An even better morale is not to drive excessively fast so that you don't end up being caught in the first place.

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Re: Police history?
<Reply # 19 on 4/19/2010 10:52 PM >
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Posted by max13

Like this EX: I was going down 101 in california. I was going 95 in a 45 and a cop got me. I had nothing else on my record so he let me go with a 55 in a 45.




You had trouble keeping up with me when I was doing 80.
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