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 gr8fzy1
 
Location: Waterbury, CT
Gender: Male
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< on 2/5/2010 7:49 PM >
|  | | | Went back to Waterbury Necktie with WeKURTZ and his son, since our planned trip to Anamet was ruined by a scrapper. So I'm sorry about doing the same location again. But I have some more shots with varying composition and or camera position that I need some opinions on.
Once again, in classic A or B format..
I know people seemed to think that my last fan on a post shot was stupid, But I'm not doing it for brownie points. I'm doing it for personal enjoyment, and to make my art better by focusing on things that people would normally pass by. That said, which of these is better composition wise.
Lonely desk, horizontal or vertical?
Belt Macro
Men's room doorway. I'm leaning more towards B.
Lonely Sofa, lower focal point or higher?
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| |  | Re: Another A or B thread....
<Reply # 1 on 2/5/2010 10:11 PM >
| | | | A A A B B
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AnAppleSnail
Location: Charlotte, NC
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| | | | Re: Another A or B thread....
<Reply # 2 on 2/5/2010 10:17 PM >
| | | | Posted by gr8fzy1
 
2A
 
3A
 
4A
 
5A
 
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Now that I can see them, I'll edit in a sec with my picks.
1A
2A, but you should fix the visible window corner for B to be better.
3A
4A, but I don't like either much *shrug*
5 same as 2 - edge details draw the eye away from your subject.
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gr8fzy1
Location: Waterbury, CT
Gender: Male
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| | | | Re: Another A or B thread....
<Reply # 3 on 2/5/2010 10:32 PM >
| | | | Posted by TheVicariousVadder
A A A B B
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Got it, thank you. I knew 4B was better.
Posted by AnAppleSnail
2A, but you should fix the visible window corner for B to be better.
5 same as 2 - edge details draw the eye away from your subject.
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All A's huh?
By fixing do you mean cropping them out? And HOW did you make them big again?
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| | | | Re: Another A or B thread....
<Reply # 4 on 2/5/2010 10:47 PM >
| | | | d: none of the above
keep trying, you'll get it, eventually.
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Livingstone
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| | Re: Another A or B thread....
<Reply # 5 on 2/5/2010 11:31 PM >
| | | | B, like the simplicity
A, post in the corner, more algae/moss on the bricks adds interest.
B, Seems more of a graphic shot to my eye, maybe just cause it's bigger
4 could be either wishing, the corner of the door was there and the white painted brick doesn't do anything for my eye so I think I would have approached it from a different angle.
I should do more of these myself.
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gr8fzy1
Location: Waterbury, CT
Gender: Male
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| | | | Re: Another A or B thread....
<Reply # 6 on 2/6/2010 1:22 AM >
| | | | Posted by Livingstone
B, like the simplicity
A, post in the corner, more algae/moss on the bricks adds interest.
B, Seems more of a graphic shot to my eye, maybe just cause it's bigger
4 could be either wishing, the corner of the door was there and the white painted brick doesn't do anything for my eye so I think I would have approached it from a different angle.
I should do more of these myself.
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Thanks Livingstone, but what about the sofa?
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gr8fzy1
Location: Waterbury, CT
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| | | | Re: Another A or B thread....
<Reply # 7 on 2/6/2010 1:24 AM >
| | | | Posted by musket boy
d: none of the above
keep trying, you'll get it, eventually.
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Thanks for your opinion Musket, every one counts!
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puravida9539
Location: Dallas Area
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| | Re: Another A or B thread....
<Reply # 8 on 2/6/2010 1:41 AM >
| | | | 1B - I much prefer B, the subject is in a better spot and it is more simplistic
2A - Not a big fan of either, but I would rather the table not be in the direct center. I think I would like this better if the entire window was in the shot
3A - I like the wider version because you can see more
4B - cutting off part of the door in 4A ruins it for me
5B - the contrast of the white part of the couch with the color of the fabric is where my eyes get drawn to on the couch. It is good to place that area on a third line. plus, the area behind the couch was more interesting than the area in front of it.
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| | | Re: Another A or B thread....
<Reply # 9 on 2/6/2010 2:14 AM >
| | | | 1: I don't know if anyone else noticed that 1A & 1B are not the same fan. They are both landscapes, but 1B is rotated. It makes the shot feel strange. I would have rotated it properly and then cropped. I would have shot a nude female model instead.
2: 2B is boring, even if you crop it. I think 2A is better and could be better composed if you put more of the window, less of the floor, and found something (naked model?) to stick atop that desk. But 2B wouldn't leave her much room she'd have to basically lie flat, so 2A would allow for her to strike sexier UE poses.
3: 3A landscape is the better orientation because the belt is naturally rectangular, framing it portrait style feels awkward though frankly 3B reveals more detail. Putting that belt on a smoking hot female model [nude] and then photographing her wearing it, would make for a much better image; forget the macro.
4: I think portrait [4B] fares better only because you don't gain anything by shooting it landscape, you lose negative space, but get more detail on the subject. Also setting a nude female model beside the door in 4B would really improve this image.
5. Cropping 5A as AAS suggested would set the focal point of the image on a couch...I think a focal point of the room gives at least a somewhat interesting subject. Now if you found some cushions and then stuck a naked model on that couch ... either image would be improved but 5A+naked model > 5B+ naked model. Seeing as you do not have a naked model ... the shot of 5B with a room is more interesting than shot 5B of a couch.
So my recommendations.
Find a model willing to pose nude to help you with your composure:
If you cannot. The rule of thirds is a great place to start for composure:
http://digital-pho...com/rule-of-thirds
http://www.silverl...expose/thirds.html
(If you wonder why I don't use Rule of 1/3s much myself ... I usually shoot cell towers so getting the whole damn thing in the picture is challenging enough. :p)
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Livingstone
Gender: Male
| | Re: Another A or B thread....
<Reply # 10 on 2/6/2010 2:20 AM >
| | | | Posted by gr8fzy1
Thanks Livingstone, but what about the sofa?
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Ah yes, sofa for me is a B
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gr8fzy1
Location: Waterbury, CT
Gender: Male
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| | | | Re: Another A or B thread....
<Reply # 11 on 2/6/2010 4:26 AM >
| | | | Posted by puravida9539
1B - I much prefer B, the subject is in a better spot and it is more simplistic
2A - Not a big fan of either, but I would rather the table not be in the direct center. I think I would like this better if the entire window was in the shot
3A - I like the wider version because you can see more
4B - cutting off part of the door in 4A ruins it for me
5B - the contrast of the white part of the couch with the color of the fabric is where my eyes get drawn to on the couch. It is good to place that area on a third line. plus, the area behind the couch was more interesting than the area in front of it.
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1 Yeah, I like the older style fan too, I just couldn't decide whether to go with the old style fan in B or the peeling paint in A. I wish I could have captured 1A without the blowout.
2A) This was a tough one for me: I couldn't decide if I should pay more attention to the light falling on the table from the window, or the shadow of the table being cast BY that light.
3A) My choice was either more belt, or more detail. I couldn't decide.
4 Both could have benefited from a greater shooting distance, but B would still have been better, unless the landscape mode caught more of the wall behind the door.
5 Agree on all counts...but some nasty lens flare was ruining the composition. If you look closely at the couch you can see faint circles where attempted to correct it.
Thank you Puravida.
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gr8fzy1
Location: Waterbury, CT
Gender: Male
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| | | | Re: Another A or B thread....
<Reply # 12 on 2/6/2010 4:39 AM >
| | | | Posted by TheVicariousVadder
1: I don't know if anyone else noticed that 1A & 1B are not the same fan. They are both landscapes, but 1B is rotated. It makes the shot feel strange. I would have rotated it properly and then cropped. I would have shot a nude female model instead.
2: 2B is boring, even if you crop it. I think 2A is better and could be better composed if you put more of the window, less of the floor, and found something (naked model?) to stick atop that desk. But 2B wouldn't leave her much room she'd have to basically lie flat, so 2A would allow for her to strike sexier UE poses.
3: 3A landscape is the better orientation because the belt is naturally rectangular, framing it portrait style feels awkward though frankly 3B reveals more detail. Putting that belt on a smoking hot female model [nude] and then photographing her wearing it, would make for a much better image; forget the macro.
4: I think portrait [4B] fares better only because you don't gain anything by shooting it landscape, you lose negative space, but get more detail on the subject. Also setting a nude female model beside the door in 4B would really improve this image.
5. Cropping 5A as AAS suggested would set the focal point of the image on a couch...I think a focal point of the room gives at least a somewhat interesting subject. Now if you found some cushions and then stuck a naked model on that couch ... either image would be improved but 5A+naked model > 5B+ naked model. Seeing as you do not have a naked model ... the shot of 5B with a room is more interesting than shot 5B of a couch.
So my recommendations.
Find a model willing to pose nude to help you with your composure:
If you cannot. The rule of thirds is a great place to start for composure:
http://digital-pho...com/rule-of-thirds
http://www.silverl...expose/thirds.html
(If you wonder why I don't use Rule of 1/3s much myself ... I usually shoot cell towers so getting the whole damn thing in the picture is challenging enough. :p)
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1 It's the string that gave it away, isn't it?
2B was a last minute decision to just crop out the blown out window. 2A DOES feel better, even with the blow out. And there was a mug I could have placed on the desk....but you know me and moving items...
3A) Basically, go with a shooting style that compliments the subject?
4 Seems to be the crowd favorite. Backing up would also have helped.
5 Does feel better more things to draw your attention into the photo. Alas no cushions or naked chicks...
I DO use the rule of thirds, but I try not to use it for every shot. My camera even has a screen mode that divides the scene into thirds.
Today's lesson, Naked chicks make anything better.
Thank you for your time and the links.
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| | | Re: Another A or B thread....
<Reply # 13 on 2/6/2010 5:16 AM >
| | | | Posted by gr8fzy1
1B ) It's the string that gave it away, isn't it?
Thank you for your time and the links.
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1A is a fan with a wide tan base mounted on a red beam. The red paint [or lack thereof] gave it away.
Well, I started typing a serious answer but it turned into something different...
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gr8fzy1
Location: Waterbury, CT
Gender: Male
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| | | | Re: Another A or B thread....
<Reply # 14 on 2/6/2010 4:17 PM >
| | | | Posted by TheVicariousVadder
1A is a fan with a wide tan base mounted on a red beam. The red paint [or lack thereof] gave it away.
Well, I started typing a serious answer but it turned into something different...
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I didn't mean about the fans being different, I meant about the fan being ROTATED post.
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| | | Re: Another A or B thread....
<Reply # 15 on 2/6/2010 4:33 PM >
| | | | Posted by gr8fzy1
I didn't mean about the fans being different, I meant about the fan being ROTATED post.
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Ahh, I noticed that second. Even if it was wall mounted, the background just didn't seem right...
You know you're an urban explorer when you can spot the correct orientation of an image solely by the way the paint peels.
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Ashes in the Snow
Location: Raleigh, NC
Gender: Male
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| | | Re: Another A or B thread....
<Reply # 16 on 2/6/2010 4:41 PM >
| | | | Fan- B
Desk- A if you didn't crop the corner of it off, so go with B
Belt- A
Doorway- B, gives a more linear appeal
Couch- Neither really strike a cord with me, but i'd go with B. usually longer linear subjects are better shot with a horizontal frame, rather than Vertical.
Pics look good though, def some cool subjects.
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TuxThePenguin
Location: De Pere, WI
Gender: Male
| | Re: Another A or B thread....
<Reply # 17 on 2/6/2010 7:17 PM >
| | | | 1) A, B looks more like landscape picture that needs to be rotated.
2) A
3) B, Love the detail
4) B
5) B
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gr8fzy1
Location: Waterbury, CT
Gender: Male
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| | | | Re: Another A or B thread....
<Reply # 18 on 2/7/2010 4:56 AM >
| | | | Posted by TheVicariousVadder
You know you're an urban explorer when you can spot the correct orientation of an image solely by the way the paint peels.
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Hehehe, add that to the list in Main!
Thank you for your time and patience. You and I have been on UER the same amount of time, but you have so much more experience.
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gr8fzy1
Location: Waterbury, CT
Gender: Male
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| | | | Re: Another A or B thread....
<Reply # 19 on 2/7/2010 4:59 AM >
| | | | Posted by Ashes in the Snow
Fan- B
Desk- A if you didn't crop the corner of it off, so go with B
Belt- A
Doorway- B, gives a more linear appeal
Couch- Neither really strike a cord with me, but i'd go with B. usually longer linear subjects are better shot with a horizontal frame, rather than Vertical.
Pics look good though, def some cool subjects.
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One vote for the old style fan, alright!
Yeah, I cropped the edge of the table off because I was shooting from a doorway and was catching the molding.
Another vote for belt A.
More and more people voting Door B.
I like B couch better, but the shot is dangerously close to being too cluttered.
Thanks for the time and opinions.
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