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 ferris209
   
Location: The Lone Star State
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 40 on 7/30/2010 3:33 PM >
|  | | | Posted by Sceptic
Has anyone had success in asking for permission into government owned abandonments? This i believe would be a tough one..
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I can assure you the answer will always be no, excluding some anomaly of course. There are three things governments always think about, liability, Liability, and LIABILITY. They can only think how much you'd get if you injured yourself and sued.
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ArtfulDodger
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<Reply # 41 on 7/30/2010 5:14 PM >
| | | | One method is to bluff your way in. If you look like you belong there, people are less likely to challenge you. I have a clean hard hat and bright neon vest that I wear. Combine that with a collared shirt and a relatively clean appearance (bonus points for a tie), and most people will assume you're surveying the property or with public utilities. Don't announce your presence, but be prepared to act calmly when they see you. Give them a wave and resume looking through your camera on the tripod. If they approach you and ask what you're doing, say something like "recording the condition of the property". Which is technically true, but can be interpreted as being there in an official capacity.
Another benefit is that miscreants who are on the property, but aren't supposed to be there, will quickly clear out as they assume you're there with the property owner's blessing.
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Elle
  
Location: Dartmouth, NS
Gender: Female
| | Re: Success rate of asking permission from owner
<Reply # 42 on 9/30/2010 5:34 PM >
| | | | I'm definitely on the "yes" side of the fence when it comes to asking permission before going into different locations. For example, I just recently (two days ago!) called the local School Board and spoke to the gentleman in charge of operations - He gave me a tour this morning of one of the old schools that has been re-purposed as a learning centre. He introduced me to the caretaker of the building, and showed me most of the things I wanted to see - the only rules were "Don't go in the men's locker room in the basement" as they were using it for personal storage, and that the Chem/Bio labs were off limits (they had windows from the parking lot though ;) ). I figure if you're honest about what you want (I'm a photographer who loves old buildings!) then you have a better chance of getting to take photos of locations.
It's worked numerous times for me, and it means your experience is much more laidback, as you're not worried about getting caught.
Yes, they'll either likely stay with you to chat/watch you shoot, but sometimes it's for your safety as well as their liability (if the building is still actively used).
Happy hunting!
Elle
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JD
Location: Indianapolis, IN
Gender: Male
| | Re: Success rate of asking permission from owner
<Reply # 43 on 10/1/2010 1:12 AM >
| | | | I've almost always had success asking for permission to enter if the property is privately owned. I can't say much about government or city owned buildings though. The answer from them will always be a big fat "no" because, like what's been said before, they worry about liability and nothing else.
That being said, I usually don't ask most of the time. I've only asked if I've happened to stumble across the owner somewhere. Usually they have no problem, they might even give you some great history and valuable information about the site(which has happened to me a couple times before).
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PhotoSeeker
 
Location: Sudbury
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 44 on 10/1/2010 11:12 AM >
| | | | Posted by ferris209
I can assure you the answer will always be no, excluding some anomaly of course. There are three things governments always think about, liability, Liability, and LIABILITY. They can only think how much you'd get if you injured yourself and sued.
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I disagree. Nothing is lost by asking, even the government. I've had a few government agencies, of varying levels from municipal to federal, come through for me without special connections of any kind. For no more reason than I asked nicely.
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sizzler
Location: Alberta
Gender: Male
| | Re: Success rate of asking permission from owner
<Reply # 45 on 1/18/2011 2:18 AM >
| | | | This is great, thanks. I was going to start a new post about this subject, but decided to be a good little noob and perform a search first. And this thread completely answers my question.
Ive never asked before, but on the other hand I either have entered abandoned homes in the middle of nowhere without chance of being found, or went into places that were very probably not patrolled.
Call me a pussy, and maybe I am by some peoples standards, but I have a really good job and a baby bird to feed, and as much as I really want to, I cant risk it.
There's a couple places I'm dying to check out, and I'm going to try seeking permission. I'll let you know how it turns out.
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barefootpoetry
Location: PA
Gender: Female
| | | Re: Success rate of asking permission from owner
<Reply # 46 on 3/20/2011 10:30 PM >
| | | | I've only ever asked permission once. It was a little country store out in the middle of nowhere. As I was photographing the outside, the lady who lived next door pulled in. We chitchatted for a few minutes and I asked if I could see inside the store to take photos. She said she didn't have the key but would call her brother who had it and get it from him. I was over the moon! I'd never had a chance to explore a place where I could ask questions about the history. And she seemed so nice and willing to help me out. I called her a few days later to see if she'd gotten the key and she said no and was very snippy with me and refused to answer any more questions. I was so disappointed.
This has made me leery of asking permission for anywhere else, although there is an abandoned theater in my town and once I get some kind of light source, I'm definitely going to try to suck up my wussiness and see if someone will let me in.
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Eschaton
Location: Western NC
Gender: Male
Entry: Eschaton (es-kuh-tawn) noun | end of time, climax of history | Etymology: Greek for 'last'
| | | Re: Success rate of asking permission from owner
<Reply # 47 on 3/22/2011 7:15 AM >
| | | | A friend of mine and prolific explorer once told me about how he carries personal liability insurance, and how it nearly always guarantees him access.
Now, I understand that's not going to be affordable for everyone (myself included), but it does sound like a great thing to have.
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barefootpoetry
Location: PA
Gender: Female
| | | Re: Success rate of asking permission from owner
<Reply # 48 on 3/26/2011 2:39 PM >
| | | | Posted by Eschatonal
A friend of mine and prolific explorer once told me about how he carries personal liability insurance, and how it nearly always guarantees him access.
Now, I understand that's not going to be affordable for everyone (myself included), but it does sound like a great thing to have.
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THis is actually a great idea. I once wrote up a waiver of sorts stating I would not hold a property owner responsible for any injuries and yadda yadda yadda, planning to whip it out when asking permission to enter a particular building I had in mind that was in the middle of a suburby type area. Unfortunately, I was run off by a large angry redneck saying, "This here's prah-vit prah-perty ma'am!" before I even got out the paper.
She who hesitates, sees bulldozers. |
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dsankt
Location: live and in the fresh
| |  | | Re: Success rate of asking permission from owner
<Reply # 49 on 3/27/2011 2:27 PM >
| | | | I figure since I pay taxes which contribute to the building of infrastructure such as bridges, subways and drains I am a part owner and can therefore ask myself permission.
It's a good system, I haven't been denied yet.
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Eschaton
Location: Western NC
Gender: Male
Entry: Eschaton (es-kuh-tawn) noun | end of time, climax of history | Etymology: Greek for 'last'
| | | Re: Success rate of asking permission from owner
<Reply # 50 on 3/27/2011 6:57 PM >
| | | | Posted by dsankt
I figure since I pay taxes which contribute to the building of infrastructure such as bridges, subways and drains I am a part owner and can therefore ask myself permission.
It's a good system, I haven't been denied yet.
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May not work for structures built before you were born, but otherwise pretty solid logic :V
Post by barefootpoetry
THis is actually a great idea. I once wrote up a waiver of sorts stating I would not hold a property owner responsible for any injuries and yadda yadda yadda, planning to whip it out when asking permission to enter a particular building I had in mind that was in the middle of a suburby type area. Unfortunately, I was run off by a large angry redneck saying, "This here's prah-vit prah-perty ma'am!" before I even got out the paper. |
I've thought about doing this, but later dismissed it for precisely that reason. I can't really think of anyone who would actually go along with that.
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AnAppleSnail
Location: Charlotte, NC
Gender: Male
ALL the flashlights!
| | | | Re: Success rate of asking permission from owner
<Reply # 51 on 3/28/2011 6:06 PM >
| | | | Sometimes you aren't so much asking for permission from the owner as from who is really there. Scouting a local place I ran into some people who are clearly in charge of it, although I doubt they own the building. I'll let you know how it goes, asking. I don't plan to sneak in.
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NiiCKx3
Location: W.V.
| | Re: Success rate of asking permission from owner
<Reply # 52 on 4/1/2011 2:26 AM >
| | | | I'd be afraid that to go back if they said no. I feel like directly ignoring people is a lot worse than "Well, it was open/accessible I didn't realize". (Although neither excuse seems very good)
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Price
Location: Houston,TX
Gender: Male
Urbex: Keeping record of things most people have forgotten.
| | Re: Success rate of asking permission from owner
<Reply # 53 on 4/1/2011 7:02 PM >
| | | | ive only asked to get into like 3 or 4 places and as long as i told them what i was doing and showed them some stuff they all let me in.
“It still amazes me how many millions goes to discovering another star in the galaxies when, for all we know, we are still sitting on top of another undiscovered world beneath our feet.”
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heinrick
Location: Cascadia
Gender: Male
| | | Re: Success rate of asking permission from owner
<Reply # 54 on 4/1/2011 7:16 PM >
| | | | Posted by shadowbot
Just because you're asking permission doesn't mean they will suddenly be watching for people sneaking around if they weren't already. |
From my experiences, this has been largely untrue. Informing the owner of your intent alerts their awareness of interest in the site. I was busted once after being denied permission and faced bigger trouble than I otherwise would.
If you're confident about a yes, if the owner is too busy to look after it, and/or if exploring is impossible otherwise, then ask away...
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