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UER Forum > Archived Rookie Forum > Winter Exploring? (Viewed 9936 times)
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Winter Exploring?
< on 10/20/2009 7:09 PM >
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I've been exploring with some degree of seriousness for only a few months. As the Rochester winter approaches, I'm wonder what to expect for exploring during the winter. Are there any unexpected 'gotcha's that I might want to be aware of? Any extra equipment? Any general advice on dealing with the cold and the snow from you, ye veterans of UE?

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Re: Winter Exploring?
<Reply # 1 on 10/20/2009 7:11 PM >
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I am also interested in the answer to this.


(I'm a Texan-turned-New-Yorker, so I'm seriously considering giving up exploring once there's any hint of snow.)

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Re: Winter Exploring?
<Reply # 2 on 10/20/2009 7:15 PM >
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- Dress warm and water proof.
- Watch footprints in the snow
- Batteries don't last as long when they are cold
- Be careful of condensation on your camera when you go into a warm environment again

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Re: Winter Exploring?
<Reply # 3 on 10/20/2009 7:16 PM >
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I'm quite paranoid about footprints. They can at times give your position away and have seen it happen.

Sometimes walking around a building in a foot of snow looks more sketchy to others than in the summer.

And just because it's a nice sealed up building, it's still just as cold as outside or often colder. Sometimes the building traps in the cold while outside is warming up with the sun.

Drains seems nice a toasty in the winter and (usually) nice and cool in the summer.

Don't eat the brown snow. Yellow still tastes okay.


All general stuff. No major shockers besides being cold as hell.

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Re: Winter Exploring?
<Reply # 4 on 10/20/2009 7:17 PM >
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Treat it largely like a hike in the cold - layers, pack water and food. Don't be in a hurry, getting wet becomes an emergency - yeah, you'll need a way to stay dry; or stay warm while wet and waiting for pickup. Waterproof boots in snow, wear a warm hat, an outer layer that blocks wind and water.

Mind your tracks in snow - but snowprints give you information too. Mind the temperature drop after dark, especially on clear days. Stay warm.

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Re: Winter Exploring?
<Reply # 5 on 10/20/2009 7:19 PM >
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If you have a shitty point and shoot, and the weather drops below freezing, your batteries might stop working. Entirely. At which point you get to keep your extra ones in your pockets or down your pants or up your ass or wherever you'd like, just so you can keep shooting.

You'll need generally less water, so your pack will lighten up. You'll make up for it by the squillion layers of clothing you'll have to wear. Buildings will be ever so slightly warmer at night as they retain the heat from the day before, and absolutely fucking freezing during the day, as the temperature swaps from the night air.

Bring extra socks. Snow/freezing rain is a bitch. Bring heat treat/whatever brand you'd like. Throw some in your gloves, if you wear them, and shoes to keep from being miserable while exploring.

Expect floors that were sorta crap during the summer/spring/fall to start getting worse, especially around the Northeast. Freeze-thaws happen all winter and are murder on buildings. Particularly buildings with broken steam pipes. Though these can make for epic photos in cold weather.

Bonus- pigeon poop smells less and becomes more traversable during cold weather.
Other bonus(?)- rotting wood becomes... less squishy. More likely to just snap under you than simply suck you down.

Cold also typically causes guards to kick it in their cars/shacks/favorite spot more often, and they will be less motivated to chase you or even notice you. Same with cops. Though expect them to be REALLY PISSED OFF if they do catch you. No one likes running after someone else in 13 degree weather.

And it makes overnight stays in buildings decidedly less comfortable.

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Re: Winter Exploring?
<Reply # 6 on 10/20/2009 8:08 PM >
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Posted by hydrotherapy

Cold also typically causes guards to kick it in their cars/shacks/favorite spot more often, and they will be less motivated to chase you or even notice you. Same with cops. Though expect them to be REALLY PISSED OFF if they do catch you. No one likes running after someone else in 13 degree weather.

And it makes overnight stays in buildings decidedly less comfortable.


I like the winter. I usually explore more. The cold & rain make great covers for my covert activities. & it keeps the guards in their shacks /vehicles. Also less nosey people out to look into something suspicious.

What is this snow & freezing conditions you speak of. Here in Ca it is decent most of the time.

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Re: Winter Exploring?
<Reply # 7 on 10/20/2009 8:21 PM >
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- With leaves off trees, you lose a lot of cover they afford in the summer.

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Re: Winter Exploring?
<Reply # 8 on 10/20/2009 8:25 PM >
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Posted by yokes
- With leaves off trees, you lose a lot of cover they afford in the summer.


Don't be a negative nancy, if you were a real explorer, you wouldn't think twice about that.



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Re: Winter Exploring?
<Reply # 9 on 10/20/2009 9:03 PM >
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Yeah, footprints can be a bit of an issue, but they can also be an asset you want to know how often a place is getting visited by people, especially those who might be keeping an eye on things.

They let you see how often security might be doing checks, what areas of a property they're paying attention to or of they even bothered leaving their vehicle to begin with. Like hydrotherapy said, most of the time they'll do as little as they need to during colder weather and you can sometimes use that to your advantage.

It's the sort of stuff that comes in handy when you're visiting active or semi-active locations that you're a little unsure about.

The colder temperature also allows you to see heat coming out of vents. Good if you want to know what sections of a building might still be frequented by people. Sometimes the lights are on, but if the heat is off, there's a decent chance that nobody is home.

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Re: Winter Exploring?
<Reply # 10 on 10/20/2009 9:15 PM >
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Quite honestly I prefer exploring in the winter, as does my normal UE buddy.

People are generally more holed up, being warm generally isnt an issue until you stop moving (if you dress right) and you can sometimes gain access to waterlogged areas due to the freeze.

Not to call you out Hydrotherapy, but you mentioned not needing as much water in the winter (assuming due to less sweat). I'm disputing this claim, as you lose more water in your breath due to dry air, and you're burning more calories staying warm. Not only that, the margin of error (for survival purposes) is much slimmer. Not only that, your body needs to be hydrated to regulate temperature well, the more water the better off you are.

In short i'd recommend bringing extra water and food, along with a magnesium striker and some dryer lint (and know how to use them!) just in case you need to hunker down until dawn.



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Re: Winter Exploring?
<Reply # 11 on 10/20/2009 10:18 PM >
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Posted by hydrotherapyor up your ass
Oh, I've been doing that all summer just for fun. Always nice when such things turn out to be useful.

Re Footprints: Hadn't thought of that one. I can think of a few places that might be an issue. Then again, as mentioned, I could see that providing info to me too- unplowed areas, for example, are unlikely to be watched.

Anyone ever tried using heavy falling snow as visibility cover?

Drains seems nice a toasty in the winter and (usually) nice and cool in the summer.

Or potentially frozen. >.< Plus, getting wet in the cold sucks.

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Re: Winter Exploring?
<Reply # 12 on 10/20/2009 10:27 PM >
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Keep in mind that under very cold conditions, a minor emergency can become a major problem. A simple broken leg in the summer means a delay of x many hours while someone goes for help, plus the possibility of having legal problems when the ambulance comes to get you. In the Winter, x many hours may result in further injury from the cold.

I prefer Winter exploring. It has its drawbacks, but I believe they are outweighed by the sheer joy of tromping about in the snow.

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Re: Winter Exploring?
<Reply # 13 on 10/20/2009 10:59 PM >
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Don't forget to wear a hat of some sort... most of your body heat excapes from your head.

Absolutely bring plenty of water! Don't think just because its cold as balls or you don't feel sweaty that you aren't on the way to becomming dehydrated!

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Re: Winter Exploring?
<Reply # 14 on 10/20/2009 11:00 PM >
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Re: Winter Exploring?
<Reply # 15 on 10/20/2009 11:07 PM >
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Posted by urbexkeith
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Re: Winter Exploring?
<Reply # 16 on 10/20/2009 11:54 PM >
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Make under armor your friend. A lot of the time I will just wear their cold gear pants and shirt under a hoodie with jeans and some gloves and im good to go. It is nice because it keeps you warm with out screwing with your mobility.

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Re: Winter Exploring?
<Reply # 17 on 10/21/2009 12:20 AM >
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Last winter it got down to about 2C in Melbourne, it was so bad I had to put on an extra layer of clothing.

I guess my point is, when it gets to be winter, come to Australia!

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Re: Winter Exploring?
<Reply # 18 on 10/21/2009 1:19 AM >
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Posted by yokes
- Watch footprints in the snow


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Re: Winter Exploring?
<Reply # 19 on 10/21/2009 2:00 AM >
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Posted by Mysterea

Not to call you out Hydrotherapy, but you mentioned not needing as much water in the winter (assuming due to less sweat). I'm disputing this claim, as you lose more water in your breath due to dry air, and you're burning more calories staying warm.



Don't call out the person with "water" as part of their name.

Your body may NEED more water (and the may is all dependent on physical exertion, honestly with less cops about there is less need for full on sprints and superfastmaddebauclefenceclimbs) but you don't crave it, and you can go for far longer without feeling the need for water in winter than you can summer. Plus in my experience, winter explores tend to last less time. You don't need to pack provisions for 12+ hours when you know you probably won't last past 5 without getting cold and bored. As for burning calories staying warm- true that. That is what compact, high-protein food is for. I'm not sure what sort of water you drink, but mine doesn't have calories.

Not to suggest anyone border dehydration while exploring but I've never had a problem losing more water through sweat while exploring in the winter. And if you're finding this a significant problem- dress in layers.

Also- bring whiskey.



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