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 Firefly300
  
Location: Montreal, Qc
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< on 9/3/2009 2:46 AM >
|  | | | I was spray painting my bag in black to hide better in the dark with my P100 mask on when I noticed that I could smell the paint even tough I was wearing my mask. Does this mean I'm using the mask in vain since I'm not using it correctly or is it because the smelly chemicals in spray paint can pass trough an P100 respirator? I'm pretty concerned with this issue since I've explored several places known to contain asbestos and/or diverse chemicals.
tl;dr: Is it normal that I can smell spray paint trough a P100 respirator or am I wearing it wrong?
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controleman
    
Location: Montreal
Gender: Male
| | | Re: Spray painting issue with P100 Mask
<Reply # 1 on 9/3/2009 2:59 AM >
| | | | The P100 is only made for particules such as asbestos, it's in absolutly no case made for painting and wont give you much more than that.
Go to your local paint shop, they'll give you what you need. It's only a different cartrigde, you're not going to hav eto spend money for a new mask.
Depending on what kind of paint, you may also need a full face. (Made that mistake once)
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Switch_
Location: Orlando, Florida
Gender: Male
| |  |  | | Re: Spray painting issue with P100 Mask
<Reply # 2 on 9/3/2009 6:25 AM >
| | | | I don't really think he's using it for painting. He was just alarmed that he could smell the paint through the P100 and was wondering if it was because he might be wearing it wrong.
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LizBellum
 
Gender: Female
Be really excellent at everything!
| | | Re: Spray painting issue with P100 Mask
<Reply # 3 on 9/3/2009 6:52 AM >
| | | | Admittedly I'm not very clued up about these things, but I'm thinking no, you shouldn't be able to smell the paint, or at least very strongly.
My answer's really just based on the fact that the majority of filters and shields you can buy for painting are P100, and one of the selling features is blocking odor. Thank you, part-time job at Sears four years ago.
Also, the way I usually test filters is putting one on and opening a bottle of concentrated citrus oil. My mum works in a lab, and this is how they test their respirators etc based on OSHA guidelines.
I really don't mess with the things any more, so maybe someone will have more of a technical answer for you.
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hilite
Gender: Male
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| | | Re: Spray painting issue with P100 Mask
<Reply # 4 on 9/3/2009 6:54 AM >
| | | | Posted by Firefly300
I was spray painting my bag in black to hide better in the dark
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smooth move hombre,
ya those 3m painting ones work best for paint fumes.
When u wear other respirators with filters, you should always check the seal by covering the inhalation valves and breathing in. You should not be able to suck in any air.
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\/adder
 
Location: DunkarooLand
Gender: Male
I'm the worst of the best but I'm in this race.
| | | Re: Spray painting issue with P100 Mask
<Reply # 5 on 9/3/2009 7:11 AM >
| | | | Is it solely p100 or does it say organic vapors on it? The smell should be minimal at best if you are using the organic vapor cartridge.
or are you just using the
"pancake filters"
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TROGDOR
Gender: Male
| | Re: Spray painting issue with P100 Mask
<Reply # 6 on 9/3/2009 1:42 PM >
| | | | P100 will not stop paint fumes or anything else that is not a particulate. Organic vapor cartridges will be black, as opposed to purple for particulates. You can also get "piggyback" ones that protect against both:
http://www.profess...th-safety-filters/
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terapr0
Location: Sauga City
Gender: Male
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| | | Re: Spray painting issue with P100 Mask
<Reply # 7 on 9/3/2009 1:44 PM >
| | | | What others have said is pretty much correct.
P100 filters are designed to filter particulates...they're essentially small HEPA filters (what they use in hospitals, vacuum cleaners, etc..) that will allow oxygen and other gases to pass through, while catching "larger" particles like asbestos, lead and other fine dusts. Certain P100 filters (like the 3M 2097 "pancake" filter Vadder posted) have whats called "Nuisance Level Organic Vapor Protection" which means that it incorporates a thin layer of activated charcoal into the membrane in order to reduce atmospheric smells and nuisance odors for the wearer...for welding, abating asbestos pipe-insulation, exploring really bird / hobo shit-covered abandoned buildings and very light spray painting these are OK, and will protect you from particles and stop the smell. Other P100 filters like the 3M 2093 dont have any Nuisance Organic Vapor Protection, so you'll smell all the crappy "organic" goodness.
If you're going to be working with chemicals, paints, solvents or any other non-particulates, your going to need an Organic Vapor cartidge for your mask. As previously suggested, go to a paint supply store or even a home depot type place and you can definitely find one to fit your mask. The only thing to keep in mind with Organic Vapor cartridges is that, unlike P100 filters, they have a finite lifespan once you expose them to air, and after 6-12 months of even sporadic use, should be replaced. Keeping your organic vapor cartridge stored in a ziploc bag while not in use will help extend its lifespan, but dont think that just because you havent used in a year that its alright - they do expire.
And thats not to say that P100 filters dont need to be replaced either btw...once a P100 filter becomes visibly dirty or difficult to breath through you should throw it away and replace immediately. in fact, thats why 3M makes (most) of their P100 filters in that exposed "pancake" shape - it provides the greatest surface area for oxygen intake while allowing easy inspection for signs of wear or perforation. Closed canister style P100 filters can be filthy and clogged up and you cant tell until it becomes difficult to breath through, which could be too late. Then again, professionals who use these masks for a living tend to change their filters regularly, in some cases every single shift.
Anyways, I'm going to stop rambling now...I hope this helped to answer your question.
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Deuterium
Location: PNW
Gender: Male
| | Re: Spray painting issue with P100 Mask
<Reply # 8 on 10/1/2009 11:56 PM >
| | | | There is practically no safety difference in 2091 and 2097. The 2097 includes a primitive activated charcoal filter to remove nuisance odor. It removes moldy smell and other things that causes an annoying odor in a low concentration.
An organic filter cartridge is designed to trap much higher amount of vapors, such as solvents.
The organic filter in 2097 does work well for smell though. I noticed that air I smell through my 2097s was smelling funky.
I replaced the filter and smell is gone, which means it trapped all that nasty smell from entering me during explorations.
For extreme amount of organic vapor, such as entering a chiller room after a significant refrigerant leak, you need a SCBA.
[last edit 10/2/2009 12:47 AM by Deuterium - edited 2 times]
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