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 bigreddot
 
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< on 7/10/2009 4:08 AM >
|  | | | Hi all, posted on UER a few times but not in this forum yet. I'm kind of a newcomer to HDR, though I like how these latest ones turned out, and am keen to hear what people think.
Shot with a Nikon d90, Tamron 17-50mm, tripod and shutter release at f around 9.
You can see all my explores at http://www.michael...com/ruins-gallery/
This place is called Sports World and was abandoned about 15-20 years ago.
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Traxus
Location: Detroit, MI, USA
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| | | Re: 6 Japan Theme Park HDR Shots
<Reply # 1 on 7/10/2009 4:51 AM >
| | | | I love the shots of the water slide, great framing of a great subject. However, are you sure you need to HDR those photos? The blue looks so over saturated that the image looks computer generated. These are spectacular images, but with something that unique, I want to be able to believe it actually exists by looking at the photo.
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sweeezn
Location: DC
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 2 on 7/10/2009 3:26 PM >
| | | | hmm, didn't know they HAD graffiti in japan, haha. i agree some of the photos look CG, but still pretty cool.
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willskith
  
Location: Boston, MA
Gender: Male
| |  | | Re: 6 Japan Theme Park HDR Shots
<Reply # 3 on 7/10/2009 4:10 PM >
| | | | Don't use HDR. 1, 5, and 6 all have great composition, but you butchered them with your post processing. They look ridiculous.
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| | | Re: 6 Japan Theme Park HDR Shots
<Reply # 4 on 7/10/2009 4:14 PM >
| | | | Posted by willskith
Don't use HDR. 1, 5, and 6 all have great composition, but you butchered them with your post processing. They look ridiculous.
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willskith
Location: Boston, MA
Gender: Male
| | | | Re: 6 Japan Theme Park HDR Shots
<Reply # 5 on 7/10/2009 4:23 PM >
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Is this aimed at me or him? The only images that might have benefitted from HDR here are 2 and 3. If you just expose properly, the others would look fine. What I said stands.
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| | | Re: 6 Japan Theme Park HDR Shots
<Reply # 6 on 7/10/2009 4:54 PM >
| | | | Posted by willskith
Is this aimed at me or him? The only images that might have benefitted from HDR here are 2 and 3. If you just expose properly, the others would look fine. What I said stands.
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Him. I know you know what you are talking about.
"No risk, no reward, no fun."
"Go all the way or walk away"
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bigreddot
| | | Re: 6 Japan Theme Park HDR Shots
<Reply # 7 on 7/10/2009 11:34 PM >
| | | | Thanks everyone for the feedback, really appreciate it. Couple of thoughts:
Blue is over-saturized: Either my screen is not showing the same level of saturation as you see, or my eyes aren't attuned, because it doesn't look so bad to me. Plus I already downed the saturation considerably. All the same, I'll lower it again before I post on my site or print.
Didn't need HDR on outdoor shots: I understand that HDR works well for indoor shots to stop windows from blowing out, but by the same token doesn't it work to stop skies from blowing out when outdoors? In the regular shots pre-HDR, even with the d90's D-lighting which is like a mini bit of HDR, the skies look a bit pale and washed out. Nowhere near as dark, broody, and foreboding as the ones HDR makes.
Thanks again everyone for comments.
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Shutter
Location: Raleigh NC
Gender: Male
| | | Re: 6 Japan Theme Park HDR Shots
<Reply # 8 on 7/12/2009 7:46 AM >
| | | | I was actually going to mention that your skies looked washed out and dull...guess they were even worse originally. The sky just doesn't have enough contrast for me. Especially in 1 and 6. They just have white and one or maybe 2 greys.
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bigreddot
| | | Re: 6 Japan Theme Park HDR Shots
<Reply # 9 on 7/12/2009 9:47 AM >
| | | | Hi Shutter- Thanks for your comment but not sure I understand. More greys in the sky- wouldn't that decrease the contrast by coloring in some of the sharp white bits? Or do you mean stronger contrast in comparison to the land? So then more greys, darker than now, against a lighter land? Do I need to up the color saturation? Add highlights? Just increase contrast, or sharpness?
Would appreciate very much if you'd elucidate. Thanks.
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Steed
    
Location: Edmonton/Seoul
Gender: Male
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| | | Re: 6 Japan Theme Park HDR Shots
<Reply # 10 on 7/12/2009 11:23 AM >
| | | | Looks pretty much like Korean skies. You don't always get a lot of beauty up there. HDR probably saved the skies, but I agree a lot of the images look too computery.
And I'm also surprised by the graf. Just a few weeks ago Kuroneko was telling me graffiti is just not done at abandoned places.
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seicer
 
Location: New York
Gender: Male
| | | Re: 6 Japan Theme Park HDR Shots
<Reply # 11 on 7/12/2009 1:24 PM >
| | | | Posted by bigreddot
Didn't need HDR on outdoor shots: I understand that HDR works well for indoor shots to stop windows from blowing out, but by the same token doesn't it work to stop skies from blowing out when outdoors? In the regular shots pre-HDR, even with the d90's D-lighting which is like a mini bit of HDR, the skies look a bit pale and washed out. Nowhere near as dark, broody, and foreboding as the ones HDR makes. |
I would try the selective blending tool with Lightroom v2 to achieve a similar, easier and more balanced effect, or use a gradient-ND4 filter (e.g. charcoal) for ultimate quality.
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Glass
Location: Chicago
as one does
| | | Re: 6 Japan Theme Park HDR Shots
<Reply # 12 on 7/12/2009 5:19 PM >
| | | | 2 and 6 work, the others are too HDR-y.
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Shutter
Location: Raleigh NC
Gender: Male
| | | Re: 6 Japan Theme Park HDR Shots
<Reply # 13 on 7/12/2009 10:03 PM >
| | | | I relooked at the pictures and realized that due to the angle my monitor was set at I wasn't actually viewing them in the best way. That improved the look of the sky allot.
I was trying to say that the darks in the clouds didn't go dark enough to pop. You have the bright popping part in the middle and it just didn't get dark enough at the edges. Looking at it at the correct angle improved this. I still think it could go up juuuust a bit more though.
I do think that, unlike the rest of the picture, all the skies look flat. Looking at 1, the slides almost seem to come out of the picture at you, a feature I enjoy (not a fan of the oversaturation but you mentioned that). The sky just doesn't have the same sense of depth.
picture 5 has that some problem and if that was fixed I would like it much more (reduce the saturation of course). Something that might have made 5 work better is if you were to have taken the picture on the level and plane of the bottom of the slides (move your camera down a bit). With this you might be able to reduce the power of that white horizontal line.
picture 6 is the only tube one where I feel the colors worked in your favor.
4 could be an interesting picture with some crop work. I really like the way the car turned out but the blue cart in the plants fades out and the shed on the left is annoying and unbalances the picture.
I myself have never used HDR so I am looking at the picture as just a picture and ignoring that you did...something to them. I hope this made more sense than the last thing I said.
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bigreddot
| | | Re: 6 Japan Theme Park HDR Shots
<Reply # 14 on 7/12/2009 11:38 PM >
| | | | Kuroneko said no grafitti, hmm, seems odd since I imagine he's been to more places than me, and I've seen plenty of grafitti. Most places have some in fact. Check out this location to see lots of it:
http://www.michael...hospital-kanagawa/
Japanese skies- yes they are normally wishy-washy. Perhaps only clear-cut in autumn, maybe winter.
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willskith
Location: Boston, MA
Gender: Male
| | | | Re: 6 Japan Theme Park HDR Shots
<Reply # 15 on 7/13/2009 1:33 PM >
| | | | Posted by bigreddot
Didn't need HDR on outdoor shots: I understand that HDR works well for indoor shots to stop windows from blowing out, but by the same token doesn't it work to stop skies from blowing out when outdoors? In the regular shots pre-HDR, even with the d90's D-lighting which is like a mini bit of HDR, the skies look a bit pale and washed out. Nowhere near as dark, broody, and foreboding as the ones HDR makes.
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Get the meter reading from the sky. If the subjects on the ground are too dark, its usually pretty easy to bring them out in post. Much easier than it is to try to recover the color from a blown out sky.
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