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 The Cautious Cat
Location: New Paltz
Gender: Male
 |  | Draining Techniques
< on 6/17/2009 8:07 PM >
|  | | | While draining, it can be very hard on the knees after what seems like endless crawling, crouching, etc. I have a few techniques of my own, but does anyone else have any general hints?
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For small drains, use the "back" method. If the bottom of the drain is not too wet, one can go on his/her back and "push" with their feet on the ridges of the drain. This works when you're tired of being in the same position, or when your tired, as you can rest your arms. In this method, you should hold any hoods or shirts that can "slide up." This isn't that great of a method, but good for a little bit when there is alot of drain without any breaks.
Contribute if you have any good techniques!
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trent
      
I'm Trent! Get Bent!
Location: Drainwhale hunting
Gender: Male
Not on UER anymore.
| |  | Re: Draining Techniques
<Reply # 1 on 6/17/2009 8:25 PM >
| | | | I don't have any techniques or tricks. But I know what not to do in a small 4' tunnel. Try to go through on my feet walking like a duck. After about 75' I was too tired to even continue on to my destination.
Some like skateboards/drainboards
Some like knee pads.
Bottom line staying comfortable and try is not possible. The best advice I have is to give up on staying dry and go for long-term comfort.
[last edit 6/17/2009 8:26 PM by trent - edited 1 times]
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terapr0
 
Location: Sauga City
Gender: Male
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| | | Re: Draining Techniques
<Reply # 2 on 6/18/2009 10:33 PM >
| | | | Posted by trent
The best advice I have is to give up on staying dry and go for long-term comfort.
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I dunno about you, but I have a very difficult time being even moderately "comfortable" when my pants/ feet are all wet...even when the weathers nice, if your not dry, you arent gunna be having too much fun. I fuckin love draining, but even I wanna GTFO after a few hours with water sloshing around in my boots
and as far as that back crawl thing....sounds like it could work for a short distance if all else failed.....I'd be kinda worried about scraping my back over unseen pieces of rusty rebar, grate or any number of miscelaneous debris one encounters below the ground.
longboards FTW :p
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Maverick Hunter
Location: Wayne, Wv
Gender: Male
| |  | Re: Draining Techniques
<Reply # 3 on 6/18/2009 11:12 PM >
| | | | Yea reading about that back method....one sharp object and your done for the day.
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trent
I'm Trent! Get Bent!
Location: Drainwhale hunting
Gender: Male
Not on UER anymore.
| | | Re: Draining Techniques
<Reply # 4 on 6/18/2009 11:42 PM >
| | | | I was kind of talking about in really small pipes. You have to stay real low. You can duck walk though, but you won't last long but you'll stay dry. Or you can go on your hands and knees, maybe wear knee pads; you'll get wet, but it'll be a long more comfortable getting through a long narrow pipe.
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The Cautious Cat
Location: New Paltz
Gender: Male
| | Re: Draining Techniques
<Reply # 5 on 6/19/2009 2:24 PM >
| | | | The idea of "drainboards" never occurred to me - but thats actually a pretty genius idea. The only problem would be in small drains.
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AnAppleSnail
Location: Charlotte, NC
Gender: Male
ALL the flashlights!
| | | | Re: Draining Techniques
<Reply # 6 on 6/19/2009 4:10 PM >
| | | | Posted by The Cautious Cat
The idea of "drainboards" never occurred to me - but thats actually a pretty genius idea. The only problem would be in small drains.
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With a skateboard, on your stomach, you can go in any pipe that will fit your shoulders. Airflow is a huge problem at this size, and you cannot turn around. I don't care who you are, you'll have to be able to go backwards as soon as you're in a space smaller than from the front of your knee to the back of your bum. However, you'll get much more mileage from a cheapie board if you modify or replace the wheels to have larger ones. RCP seams tend to be about an inch big here, which is big enough to catch stock wheels. Rocks in the middle of the pipe will generally stop any wheel not twice their size - so watch out for pebbly tubes. Also, anything on the floor and bigger wheels steal height above the deck, so watch your head, shoulders, and elbows. Good luck! Wear a headlamp and don't suffocate in there.
EDIT:
Other techniques:
4': Wear cloth gloves with padding and use your hands. Frogwalk and take breaks.
3': I'm 6'4" so this is a true crawl for me. Take breaks frequently.
2': Slither or roll. You'll get wet while resting unless you have a board to rest on.
Bring water in a flat container. To rest in a drain, I am comfortable as long as I'm not straining to hold a position. Plant a foot on one side, turn so your back is against the pipe, put your bum on that heel and relax all the muscles in that leg. If you don't fall over, you're doing it right. Switch sides about every 2 minutes. If you have a drain board, you have a dry seat.
[last edit 6/19/2009 4:14 PM by AnAppleSnail - edited 1 times]
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Air
 
Location: Canada
| | Re: Draining Techniques
<Reply # 7 on 6/20/2009 5:17 PM >
| | | | Posted by The Cautious Cat
The idea of "drainboards" never occurred to me - but thats actually a pretty genius idea. The only problem would be in small drains.
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Max Action has a drain-board-vest that seems like a good idea.
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g.o.s.t.
Gender: Male
Going Out Seeking Truth
| | Re: Draining Techniques
<Reply # 8 on 6/24/2009 4:00 AM >
| | | | Here is one for any trip.
Phones on silent!
If a cop is standing by the bush your hiding and your phone suddenly starts playing the Mexican Hat Dance he aint gonna think its a bunch of chipmunks at a fiesta.
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LiveAudio
Location: Greenville SC
Gender: Male
Along came a spider
| | Re: Draining Techniques
<Reply # 9 on 6/24/2009 6:23 AM >
| | | | if you're going to get wet, polypropylene retains some warmth when wet, unlike cotton. One of my backpacking friends says cotton is the devil. Once it gets wet it gets cold and doesn't dry out for a very long time.
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Yehoshua
Location: Ontario
Gender: Male
| | Re: Draining Techniques
<Reply # 10 on 6/24/2009 7:39 AM >
| | | | Bring a tool. In "normal" UE bringing a crowbar, mallet or otherwise is stupid, the benefits don't outweigh the risks. That's because in "normal" UE, your prybar only ever gets you "into that locked pantry" which isn't absolutely necessary anyways - but when the air starts getting misty, and you find a dead raccoon in your path, you're going to want to be able to scramble topside at the last manhole you passed - rust or no rust. Trust me on that one.
Besides, draining rarely (if ever) involves law enforcement, and even if you DID come out of a manhole cover to find a police officer awaiting you and noticing your prybar...chances are, he's going to know you're not using it to smash windows and break into locked pantries, so you're probably safe anyways. (Never seen a cop while draining, so that one's just common sense, no personal experience)
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The Cautious Cat
Location: New Paltz
Gender: Male
| | Re: Draining Techniques
<Reply # 11 on 6/24/2009 10:11 PM >
| | | | I find having a tool such as a crowbar saves a lot of time. Maybe not a crowbar specifically, but something such as a screwdriver with interchangeable heads works. In my experience it saves a lot of time with certain tools. But it's true, getting caught with a tool can be really infringing, so unless you know that there's a tiny chance of police/authority contact, I wouldn't recommend it.
[last edit 6/25/2009 1:41 AM by The Cautious Cat - edited 1 times]
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Noxus
Location: Orlando
Gender: Male
| | Re: Draining Techniques
<Reply # 12 on 6/25/2009 11:28 PM >
| | | | the "back" technique sounds like a horrible idea, unless you want to end up covered in shit.
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ToadKnight
Location: New Paltz, NY
Gender: Male
NPUE
| | Re: Draining Techniques
<Reply # 13 on 6/26/2009 12:45 AM >
| | | | Posted by Noxus
the "back" technique sounds like a horrible idea, unless you want to end up covered in shit.
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When draining, and especially when crawling through small tunnels, you're going to get dirty no matter what. So you may as well get a little dirty for long-term comfort.
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Dougo
Wrong account -- Look for other Doug
Location: Victoria, Australia
Gender: Male
| | | Re: Draining Techniques
<Reply # 14 on 9/30/2009 1:41 PM >
| | | | I have the perfect solution to not struggling through small drains...
just
GO
IN
BIG
DRAINS!!!
Cheers,
Doug
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ErkzO
Location: Canberra, Australia
Gender: Male
Australian
| | Re: Draining Techniques
<Reply # 15 on 10/2/2009 2:49 AM >
| | | | skateboard ftw
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ToadKnight
Location: New Paltz, NY
Gender: Male
NPUE
| | Re: Draining Techniques
<Reply # 16 on 11/13/2009 2:36 AM >
| | | | Posted by Dougo
I have the perfect solution to not struggling through small drains...
just
GO
IN
BIG
DRAINS!!!
Cheers,
Doug
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I'd love to, but unfortunately I have not found any in my area.
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hatsumi
| | | Re: Draining Techniques
<Reply # 17 on 11/15/2009 8:53 AM >
| | | | you simply not trying hard enough
go the fork in drains and stop biatching about them !!!!
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shotgun mario
Location: MSP
Gender: Male
MSP Elite™ Card-Carrying Member
| | | Re: Draining Techniques
<Reply # 18 on 11/16/2009 3:24 AM >
| | | | quit complaining about getting wet/sore/uncomfortable/cold/bumps/bruises/cuts/etc. in drains. The environment isn't meant to have people in them regularly. If you're going to go draining in a non-standing height drain, be prepared to be feeling it for the next week or more. I'm 6'-5", and I'll go down 3' drains for quite a ways even if I don't think there's anything 'at the end'. Yes, it's exhausting. Yes, I'm wet. Yes, my back, hands, knees, and head are scraped to shit just 500 yards in. But that's part of the fun. Being underground in a naturally air conditioned tunnel, running around wet, slippery pipes and climbing ladders with completely saturated jeans and shirt, backpack soaked full of water, shoes/boots overflowing, getting hit in the face by waterfalls the whole way is my idea of a good time in the middle of a hot summer. Best part is when you leave the manhole/outfall, and people see this wet cat of a creature emerging from the depths, you'd think they were seeing a creature from a cave or something! That's why I go in, and very few others will ever go down such a drain. Hell, few explorers would do something that. It's not for everyone, and there's no truly easy way to go about it.
Go in drains and know what you're doing beforehand, or stay out of them!
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ToadKnight
Location: New Paltz, NY
Gender: Male
NPUE
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<Reply # 19 on 11/16/2009 3:59 AM >
| | | | Who's complaining?
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