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Cochiseg
Location: Canada Gender: Male
Scary rabbit, isn't it?
| | Active Buildings < on 4/10/2009 1:20 AM >
| | | What would be the charges for entering a building which is still in use? (churches, old schools, that sort of stuff) How different is it from being caught in an abandoned building? I know the intention can seem much different to a police man who arrests someone in a building which is still in use, since there might be valuables inside, and more things to break than in an abandoned place. There are a couple of old schools around i would love to explore, but these are still active. I know these might get abandoned in maybe 10-15 years, with private schools going out of the system pretty slowly. Once you are inside, is there a difference whether you simply taken some photographs, or damaged something or committed any sort of mischief? I guess because a building is active, it will be much harder to say you didn't have any bad intention. My best bet might be going to the buildings while they are open and then go to the places i want to see (belfries, tunnels, that sort of things) [last edit 4/10/2009 1:20 AM by Cochiseg - edited 1 times]
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Intrinsic
Location: Collingwood Gender: Male
| | Re: Active Buildings <Reply # 1 on 4/10/2009 1:33 AM >
| | | Seventeen year-old boys and elementary schools would be a BAD mix. This occured yesterday, unknown as to who, if anyone, took her: http://lfpress.ca/...04/09/9072386.html High school though, you'd blend right in. I think you're splitting hairs with the valuables thing. Trespassing is trespassing. There is a 'theft under $5000' charge but not a 'trespassing with intent to maybe, possibly steal under $5000'. Remember, you can take something from a store shelf and put it into your pocket but until you leave the store (or pass the cashiers) it isn't actually a theft. Likewise you can walk into a church or school and it isn't considered theft.
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Cochiseg
Location: Canada Gender: Male
Scary rabbit, isn't it?
| | Re: Active Buildings <Reply # 2 on 4/10/2009 2:16 AM >
| | | So the charges for trespassing in an active building would be the same the same as in an abandoned building?
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rainman8889
Location: H.T.S.F.C. Time to gain and a time to lose.
Bye for now.
| | Re: Active Buildings <Reply # 3 on 4/10/2009 1:07 PM >
| | | Posted by Cochiseg So the charges for trespassing in an active building would be the same the same as in an abandoned building?
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Yes they are. Doesn't matter if the building is active or abandoned. Of course, with an abandoned building, chances of getting caught are less than in an active one for obvious reasons.
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Tom
Location: Pittsburgh Gender: Male
| | | Re: Active Buildings <Reply # 4 on 4/10/2009 6:16 PM >
| | | Posted by Cochiseg What would be the charges for entering a building which is still in use? (churches, old schools, that sort of stuff)
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It depends on the building. Churches appreciate a dollar or two in the offering box, places like museums usually post the charges on a sign by the door, etc. Realistically, that's probably the easiest way in. A lot of places like active churches and schools will let you in to take pictures, particularly if it's a historic building and if you promise to give them a set of what you take. Approach them with the idea of coming back when it's a good time for them and seem reputable and they might even give you the guided tour.
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Cochiseg
Location: Canada Gender: Male
Scary rabbit, isn't it?
| | Re: Active Buildings <Reply # 5 on 4/11/2009 6:18 PM >
| | | I will go ahead and do this before these places become museums and actually charge a fee for visiting. I'm sure most people will accept to let someone take photographs of their property if they seem curious about its history. With a school or a church, it should be even easier (in fact you don't really have to ask to explore a church, since its open to public all of the time, but institution like schools will require it)
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spirit730
Location: ON Gender: Female
| | Re: Active Buildings <Reply # 6 on 4/11/2009 6:38 PM >
| | | I teach in a middle school, and it would be wise to talk to the Principal of a school if you are wanting to go in and take pictures. I am assuming that you would want to take pics after kids left, cuz with them there, that is a whole different story. You probably wouldn't be allowed to bring your camera in unless it was for some news story or something that has been previously approved...just security (again, just using my school as an example). Some parents would get upset if they found out that "some guy" was at the school taking pictures. But after hours, with adults still at the school, I wouldn't see a problem with it. You would have to sign in and out though at my school....might be different from other schools. [last edit 4/11/2009 7:07 PM by spirit730 - edited 1 times]
You and me will all go down in history, with a sad Statue of Liberty, and a generation that didn't agree. |
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Cochiseg
Location: Canada Gender: Male
Scary rabbit, isn't it?
| | Re: Active Buildings <Reply # 7 on 4/11/2009 6:49 PM >
| | | I'm sure i can get some arrangements sometime around 5-6pm to visit these places and take pictures. I hope Ill be able to get to the places i want to see (belfry, basements, all of those places which might be in their original state)
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Sand
Location: Pac South
Everything interesting is always behind a fence.
| | Re: Active Buildings <Reply # 8 on 4/17/2009 2:56 AM >
| | | It all depends. If you fit in, just act like you're doing a school project. If not, say you are from a historical society. If there is no society near you, make one, make a professional looking website, and hell, gather members if you want to. Making a very nice page and then logo, and cover letter, and business cards, can get you into quite a few places. Of course, having other places on your website that you have documented will help with credibility, too.
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Coley
Location: Johnson City, TN Gender: Female
We are Americans, nothing if not colonizers, and explorers. We can be retrosplorers! -on Euro UE
| | | Re: Active Buildings <Reply # 9 on 4/17/2009 5:52 PM >
| | | It's always good to have a story prepared if you haven't already asked for permission. Saying that you just moved to the area and need a good wholesome church to join, or going into a school after school hours and saying you are doing a story for your school paper.Have a "story" in mind with some interview questions for whoever has caught you. If you are older, you can check in with the office and let them know you have a child who will be attending the school and you want to check it out. These may not work the best for what you want to do, but the idea is to have a good story, just in case.
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RailGuy88 This member has been banned. See the banlist for more information.
Location: Where you're not... Gender: Male
| | Re: Active Buildings <Reply # 10 on 4/19/2009 10:07 PM >
| | | What Sandaili said. -- I personally love to explore active buildings, and have done so in many towns and states across the US. There are a few key things you need to do or pay attention to in order to successfully achieve this: 1) Dress appropriately: Don't wear your exploring clothes with a gas mask, etc. Dress in the manor that the building employees dress. If a mall, dress casual. If in a school or city building, dress nice. If in a government building or complex, wear a shirt and tie with slacks. Or if in a rail yard or construction site, wear work clothes with reflective vest and hard hat. 2) Don't pack in gear, period: Bring a small point & shoot camera or cellphone with a camera. If you must bring a flashlight, use the mini-led's that Av has on UER. No maglites or million-power lights, no matter what building or surrounding you're in. 3) Act normal and blend in: If you act like you're out of place, then you will be noticed. Study the atmosphere and act like the other people act. Make it look like you're going somewhere. If you study the building directory, but in a quick fashion, you can usually find your way around. 4) Don't get lost or caught: If you don't know where to go, find the directory, look up a department, and then ask security where that dept is. Buddy up with them (causally, not suspiciously) and be sure you both are on good terms. This way if you get caught or asked why you're here, you have both a witness and a reason. 5) Have fun: This is a must! If you get too involved in your exploration, forget it. This is not for you. But if you get weird looks, or get questioned, but find the gem in the end, it was well worth it. I promise! Overall, do it with style. Make up things, who you are, and why you're there. Although your main mission is to find that awesome place or room, your cover is to blend in and try to not be discovered.
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\/adder
Location: DunkarooLand Gender: Male
I'm the worst of the best but I'm in this race.
| | | Re: Active Buildings <Reply # 11 on 4/19/2009 11:06 PM >
| | | This was cool: http://video.googl...160824376898701015
"No risk, no reward, no fun." "Go all the way or walk away" escensi omnis... |
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Waypoint15
Location: Terlingua Gender: Male
| | Re: Active Buildings <Reply # 12 on 4/20/2009 8:11 PM >
| | | When in Far Out West Texas I go into churches all the time, the doors are not locked. While in Mexico one time I went into an abandon church and a "local" came in and asked what I was doing. I told him that I was paying my respects. All was OK. If the doors are unlocked go for it, if not watch your step and have a good reason for being there if you are asked why you are there.
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Cochiseg
Location: Canada Gender: Male
Scary rabbit, isn't it?
| | Re: Active Buildings <Reply # 13 on 4/21/2009 2:39 AM >
| | | Just watched the video vadder, thanks for sharing, it was a good laugh! As for churches, its probably one of the easiest active buildings to explore, since its open and empty all day long.
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Axle
Location: Milton, ON Gender: Male
Sieg oder Tod
| | Re: Active Buildings <Reply # 14 on 4/21/2009 8:01 PM >
| | | Posted by Cochiseg As for churches, its probably one of the easiest active buildings to explore, since its open and empty all day long.
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Most churches operate Tuesday to Friday, then Sunday. They do have staff, the Pastor, Secretary. There could also be community groups that use them also. Best bet with Churches is to talk to the secretary and/or pastor and I'm sure they'll let you look around.
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Cochiseg
Location: Canada Gender: Male
Scary rabbit, isn't it?
| | Re: Active Buildings <Reply # 15 on 4/21/2009 8:42 PM >
| | | Especially if tell them you want to become a christian (or whatever religion that church is)
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xPRESS
Location: Seoul, S. Korea Gender: Male
| | | Re: Active Buildings <Reply # 16 on 5/6/2009 6:45 AM >
| | | Actually, I've found in Korea that just walking around a big ass DSLR is usually enough...most people just assume I'm really into photography...I'm thinking of making a fake press pass for these sorts of things. After all. photography students aren't trespassing, they're "improving their portfolio" I work in a school,.....Not sure why you want to take pictures in a active one....abandoned ones are 20x better. If you wanna see some pics of a Korean school(after school photos, no kids in them) I have some....they're boring...like all schools
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