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<Reply # 20 on 3/6/2009 6:17 AM >
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the local chain of electronic stores here now carries a high frequency emmitter specifically aimed at deterring agressive dogs..
as someone who is basically terrified of anything bigger than a labrador i plan to get one....but not to deter a dog on site that i know is there, but to deter on one site i didn't and then surprises me with its presence.
i have already crossed off a promising location that had a large alsation sleeping inside ( despite the decrepid state of the building ) and when entering any new unknown sites topside i am very quick to ascertain in the first instance whether guard dogs are an issue.
recently i was offered a tour of somewhere that includes crossing a property and entering the buildings fast enough to avoid the dog on site....i declined and will always do so and would never condone causing injury or harm to an animal.
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Strelok
Location: Alpharetta, GA
Gender: Male
| | Re: Guard Dogs
<Reply # 21 on 3/6/2009 6:43 AM >
| | | | Posted by bourbonbaby
Yeah, injuring a dog to get to a location, not cool, not cool at all. I'd pin you down and make a citizens arrest myself. Seriously, I don't recall reading any threads about people discussing the best way to taze, mace and hog tie rent-a-cops. But somehow doing it to dogs is okay? It is WAY less okay than doing it to people in my books. If anyone on hear actually pulls shit like that on animals, then I would sincerely hope that the dogs get your balls, and the cops get your ass.
Grow up guys, this isn't mad max, stop throwing around impractical asinine survival tactics like you were Dwight Schrute.
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You would taze/spray a human being before you would do it to an animal? :/
That worries me...
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willskith
 
Location: Boston, MA
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 22 on 3/6/2009 7:12 AM >
| | | | Posted by bourbonbaby
I don't recall reading any threads about people discussing the best way to taze, mace and hog tie rent-a-cops.
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Can we start one?
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Jade Margery
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
Gender: Female
| | Re: Guard Dogs
<Reply # 23 on 3/6/2009 5:47 PM >
| | | | How about using a tranquilizer of some sort? You can get pills like that--adjust the dosage for the size of the dog, ground it up in some raw hamburger, feed him and wait about half an hour. The dog will be docile and fully recovered by morning. Just make sure you pay close attention to the dosage, or use an animal-specific tranquilizer. Too much would be hazardous to its health.
My mother takes three tranqs at a time sometimes to no ill effect besides bumping into walls, so the dog would probably be fine even with a higher dose.
"All great and beautiful work has come of first gazing without shrinking into the darkness."
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bourbonbaby
Gender: Male
| | | Re: Guard Dogs
<Reply # 24 on 3/6/2009 6:57 PM >
| | | | Posted by Strelok
You would taze/spray a human being before you would do it to an animal? :/
That worries me...
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You can try reasoning with people first. You can talk to a security guard and avoid violence. If reasoning fails, fucken taze 'em, or pepper spray them (as seems to be the trend). Animals are trained to do specific tasks. Being attacked by a guard dog on the dog's turf is your fault, not the dogs.
Besides, I like animals more than people more often than not.
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Yehoshua
 
Location: Ontario
Gender: Male
| | Re: Guard Dogs
<Reply # 25 on 3/6/2009 7:20 PM >
| | | | If you didn't bring blowdarts or shuriken, you don't deserve to get in.
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bourbonbaby
Gender: Male
| | | Re: Guard Dogs
<Reply # 26 on 3/6/2009 7:26 PM >
| | | | Posted by Yehoshua
If you didn't bring blowdarts or shuriken, you don't deserve to get in.
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totally! Just use your grappling gun with aircraft cable tethered to it, set up a zip line and go over their heads... How hard could it be?
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Crumpet
Location: Brisbane, AUS
Gender: Male
You know you're in Brisbane when...
| | | Re: Guard Dogs
<Reply # 27 on 3/7/2009 11:44 PM >
| | | | Posted by Jade Margery
How about using a tranquilizer of some sort? You can get pills like that--adjust the dosage for the size of the dog, ground it up in some raw hamburger, feed him and wait about half an hour. The dog will be docile and fully recovered by morning. Just make sure you pay close attention to the dosage, or use an animal-specific tranquilizer. Too much would be hazardous to its health.
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Yeah, um, if you got caught feeding a dog tranq'ed meat through a fence, you would be thoroughly screwed. Not to mention the whole moral consideration of risking an animal's life just to gain access to a location. Obviously, if you got the dosage wrong you could easily kill it.
Just avoid the location. I'm sure there's plenty buildings in your area that don't require disabling security (either canine or human) to get in.
- Crumpet (http://www.urbanillusions.org)
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Jade Margery
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
Gender: Female
| | Re: Guard Dogs
<Reply # 28 on 3/8/2009 2:20 AM >
| | | | Posted by Crumpet
Yeah, um, if you got caught feeding a dog tranq'ed meat through a fence, you would be thoroughly screwed. Not to mention the whole moral consideration of risking an animal's life just to gain access to a location. Obviously, if you got the dosage wrong you could easily kill it.
Just avoid the location. I'm sure there's plenty buildings in your area that don't require disabling security (either canine or human) to get in.
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If you got caught trying to break into some place that has a guard dog in the first place, wouldn't you be screwed anyway?
Over the counter sedatives are pretty harmless. Most overdose suicide attempts fail, after all, even when the person takes a whole bottle. You may disagree, but I do not think it would hurt the dog, especially if you used the same kind of drugs that veterinarians use or something similar.
Personally, I'd stay away from a place with a guard dog. What's so great about this place that you want to get in so bad, Only_Ole?
"All great and beautiful work has come of first gazing without shrinking into the darkness."
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WarBird69
Location: Eastern TN
Gender: Male
Atomic Bird of War
| | Re: Guard Dogs
<Reply # 29 on 3/8/2009 2:32 AM >
| | | | Drugs can work very differently between species. Something we humans can take without a problem can easily kill a dog. Not to mention if you do have something that is OK for a dog in the right quanitity, but get the doseage wrong, you could still kill it. A good non-drug example is cacao (chocolate). Humans can eat all they want of the stuff, but even fairly small quanities can make a dog deathly ill, or kill it outright.
Ketamine is an animal sedative, though its usually given through IV or injection. Ketamine is also NOT available over the counter, or even as a prescription for humans. Dextromethrophan is somewhat similar to ketamine, but is (if I remember correctly, don't feel like looking it up) highly toxic to canines.
Long story short: don't feed a dog drugs just because its OK for you.
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badsam
Location: Tdot
| | Re: Guard Dogs
<Reply # 30 on 3/8/2009 4:33 AM >
| | | | The best course of action to take when there is a guard dog on the premises?
Simple... Avoid the premises!
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WEKurtz
Location: Western MA
Gender: Male
| | Re: Guard Dogs
<Reply # 31 on 3/11/2009 1:17 PM >
| | | | Maybe just being patient will do the trick. Every once in a while stop by to check up on the dog. Make a noise or whatever will get the dog to announce his/her presence. (Really pro guard dogs don't make a sound until you're inside, and then they just won't let you leave, so all that barking was a break for you). Eventually you may find the dog is no longer there. Bring your spray/hamburger whatever just in case.
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AKBC
Location: Colorado
Gender: Female
| | | Re: Guard Dogs
<Reply # 32 on 3/11/2009 6:24 PM >
| | | | Posted by WEKurtz
Maybe just being patient will do the trick. Every once in a while stop by to check up on the dog. Make a noise or whatever will get the dog to announce his/her presence. (Really pro guard dogs don't make a sound until you're inside, and then they just won't let you leave, so all that barking was a break for you). Eventually you may find the dog is no longer there. Bring your spray/hamburger whatever just in case.
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This is one of the better ideas (other than just finding a new place to explore). I agree, wait it out, keep an eye on the place, maybe the property owners will remove the dog in time, in the meanwhile...find some new sites and check those ones out.
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IDChris
Location: Southern Idaho Wasteland
Gender: Male
| | Re: Guard Dogs
<Reply # 33 on 3/11/2009 7:38 PM >
| | | | Didn't Mythbusters do an episode on this? If I remember right, the only thing that got the dog's attention long enough to carry out the crime was a pheromone.
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Coley
Location: Johnson City, TN
Gender: Female
We are Americans, nothing if not colonizers, and explorers. We can be retrosplorers! -on Euro UE
| | | Re: Guard Dogs
<Reply # 34 on 3/13/2009 1:10 AM >
| | | | Thank's guys for the information. I'd rather not go if it involves hurting the dog. I think the place is open to the outside so it can get inside. I was thinking more along the lines of distraction or diversion, but guard dogs are so well trained. I'm not sure what kind of dog it is because I wasn't very close when I saw it, but it's not a rottweiler, German shepherd or pitbull. There was barking and it could possibly alert people nearby. I'm thinking it's a bit too risky.
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Assistance
"Run Away! It's an... um... Run away!"
| | Re: Guard Dogs
<Reply # 35 on 3/13/2009 3:25 AM >
| | | | If you're not creative enough to figure out how to avoid a dog, you don't deserve to get in.
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ActionSatisfaction Esq.
Location: Newark, NJ
Gender: Male
Action always satisfies
| | Re: Guard Dogs
<Reply # 36 on 3/13/2009 12:53 PM >
| | | | Posted by Assistance
If you're not creative enough to figure out how to avoid a dog, you don't deserve to get in.
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How very helpful of you!
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shellyl
Location: Lenoir NC
Gender: Female
I have learned not sweat the petty things and not to pet the sweaty things.
| | Re: Guard Dogs
<Reply # 37 on 3/13/2009 1:42 PM >
| | | | Posted by Assistance
If you're not creative enough to figure out how to avoid a dog, you don't deserve to get in.
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the_only_ole game on! Send Assistance the location and we shall see it he get in. Kudos if no harm comes to the dog. Hurt the dog and we reserve the right to.......
Ok fucked up response to a fucked up response. Ok I feel better now!
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cr400
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Gender: Male
| | Re: Guard Dogs
<Reply # 38 on 3/16/2009 6:47 PM >
| | | | Duh! HYPNOTIZE it, why didn't we think of this sooner. Just remember to unhypnotize it once you are done.
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Trap
Location: Dayton, Ohio
Gender: Male
Son, I am disappoint
| | Re: Guard Dogs
<Reply # 39 on 3/17/2009 1:48 AM >
| | | | Posted by cr400
Duh! HYPNOTIZE it, why didn't we think of this sooner. Just remember to unhypnotize it once you are done.
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or leave it hypnotized so that when the next explorer comes along the dog thinks it's a chicken! Bock Bock BAKAW!!
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