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UER Forum > Archived Rookie Forum > Exploring a tankership? (Viewed 1273 times)
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Exploring a tankership?
< on 1/14/2009 9:05 PM >
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Ok guys i need some advice on this one, in a town near where im located up there is a harbor that they store tanker ships at during the winter *there is currently 3* these are fairly big laker ships and i dont think it would be very difficult to get up there at night and do a little exploring. But i dont know if they would have cameras on it, or possibly crew living there all winter? I know during the day some times they do work on it. But good idea? or bad idea? thoughts?

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Re: Exploring a tankership?
<Reply # 1 on 1/14/2009 9:51 PM >
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I doubt there'd be anyone staying in there overnight during the winter. I also doubt there'd be cameras. If there were then they'd be the type used to monitor sections of the ship that can't be seen from the control room during its daily operation. I'd be more concerned with cameras on the property where the ships are docked than anything onboard.

I'd check www.boatnerd.com though. The people there are usually busy chatting about every single major vessel that passes through the great lakes. I'm sure you can find some details about the ones you're interested in.

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Re: Exploring a tankership?
<Reply # 2 on 1/14/2009 11:09 PM >
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Commercial boats don't have security cameras. Being on a completely different continent, I have no cue if crew stays onboard. Here, it is not the case.

Bit of warning, though: I have worked for a chemical parcel tanker company, basically ships that people would call tankers. They are normally cleaned very well when empty, but lazy people exist, and the build-up of gasses during some months in a closed off tank is very much not uncommon. Don't go opening hatches to tanks, unless you know what you are doing. Even the ship's crews make mistakes and don't live to tell, so be careful. Some stuff shipped around can leave residue which is lethal yet unnoticable till it is too late...

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Re: Exploring a tankership?
<Reply # 3 on 1/15/2009 1:22 AM >
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Definitely a good idea!! A few years ago we got onto some ships here, but lately when we were in the area, the ships were laid up for repairs so we have seen crew members on them even at nighttime.



I'd check www.boatnerd.com though. The people there are usually busy chatting about every single major vessel that passes through the great lakes. I'm sure you can find some details about the ones you're interested in.


I love that site! The town where the harbor is might also have their own website depending how busy the port is. I know Hamilton and Welland have websites with a Vessel Tracking feature. Very useful

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Re: Exploring a tankership?
<Reply # 4 on 1/15/2009 2:38 AM >
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Great information guys, i think im going to head up there and check it out, the docks that these ships are in port at are all grain silos, and im pritty sure by the look of the ships with large long trolly systems to unload bulk grain, or gravel. To be honest i dont really expect to get inside the ship, i would think they have locks? The dock there at as well is kinda at the end of a long spit, and the silos there even if they had camras, at night would still have to see over 200 feet to the gangway to the ship its self. and further on the boat given its winter now would be a great time to get on those. But taking pictures with a flash could be difficult.

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Re: Exploring a tankership?
<Reply # 5 on 1/15/2009 2:53 AM >
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Great information guys, i think im going to head up there and check it out, the docks that these ships are in port at are all grain silos, and im pritty sure by the look of the ships with large long trolly systems to unload bulk grain, or gravel. To be honest i dont really expect to get inside the ship, i would think they have locks? The dock there at as well is kinda at the end of a long spit, and the silos there even if they had camras, at night would still have to see over 200 feet to the gangway to the ship its self. and further on the boat given its winter now would be a great time to get on those. But taking pictures with a flash could be difficult.


Even if you can't get right inside the ship, you should be able to at least get onto it if they have the stairs down

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Re: Exploring a tankership?
<Reply # 6 on 1/15/2009 11:44 AM >
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Good luck man, hope to see some pictures.

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Re: Exploring a tankership?
<Reply # 7 on 1/15/2009 12:43 PM >
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If you get inside the ships, remember that they are just sleeping, not dead. Flicking switches and turning valves may have interesting results from spectators' point of view, but the ship owners are all but happy when they see just masts and cranes sticking from the water...

But while you're there, think about this: you don't usually need keys to operate a ship. Joyride, anyone?

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Re: Exploring a tankership?
<Reply # 8 on 1/15/2009 12:54 PM >
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From what I hear about a certain ship that used to be docked in Buffalo, it was alarmed. But that's because it was a 'dead' ship and was docked there for over 10 years. I'm sure people were always trying to get on it. As for an active ship, that'd be really fun to try. Hah, it'd be great if you could take it out for a spin.

Hah, and instead of 'ghost-riding the whip' you could 'ride the ghost-ship'.
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Re: Exploring a tankership?
<Reply # 9 on 1/15/2009 9:03 PM >
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I live in an international shipping port and the chances of people on board a ship in the winter is not 0%. Probably closer to 20%, even at night. Also it's a pretty serious offense being caught on one of those babies; they protected by anti-terrorism laws and have lots of expensive equipment.

Go for it, but I doubt it would be worth the risk of stirring up the Feds.

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<Reply # 10 on 1/16/2009 5:09 AM >
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would t hose laws extend in to canada though Glass?

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Re: Exploring a tankership?
<Reply # 11 on 1/16/2009 5:31 AM >
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would t hose laws extend in to canada though Glass?


In some form, I'm sure.

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Re: Exploring a tankership?
<Reply # 12 on 1/16/2009 4:38 PM >
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If you can even get in. It's common for some companies to weld the doors shut during the winter months.

Let us know how it turns out...

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Re: Exploring a tankership?
<Reply # 13 on 1/16/2009 10:52 PM >
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Re: Exploring a tankership?
<Reply # 14 on 1/17/2009 4:41 AM >
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Posted by Glass
I live in an international shipping port and the chances of people on board a ship in the winter is not 0%. Probably closer to 20%, even at night. Also it's a pretty serious offense being caught on one of those babies; they protected by anti-terrorism laws and have lots of expensive equipment.

Go for it, but I doubt it would be worth the risk of stirring up the Feds.


That and the fact they can be extremely dangerous. This isn't a building, and it's a strange place to those who have never been on a commercial vessel before.

If they house expensive navigation and communication equipment, expect people. A seasoned mariner isn't part time 60 year old security guard, and that's his home you be trespassing in, something else to consider.
Go for it, but it could turn into a lot more trouble than your anticipating.


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Re: Exploring a tankership?
<Reply # 15 on 1/17/2009 11:54 AM >
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That and the fact they can be extremely dangerous. This isn't a building, and it's a strange place to those who have never been on a commercial vessel before.


Could you explain what makes ships extremely dangerous. More dangerous than, say, armchair exploring in UER, but I and my girlfriend, who's been in the navy, couldn't think of anything else dangerous on a ship than falling or slipping, and that can happen anywhere. And since the ship is in use, there's no danger of falling through decks etc., nor getting lost in the engine room.

As for "seasoned mariners", there's this song in which they say that while ships of the past were made of wood, the men were made of iron. Today the ships are made of iron, and the men...

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Re: Exploring a tankership?
<Reply # 16 on 1/17/2009 12:24 PM >
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Posted by Tupsumato
As for "seasoned mariners", there's this song in which they say that while ships of the past were made of wood, the men were made of iron. Today the ships are made of iron, and the men...


...have wood?


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Re: Exploring a tankership?
<Reply # 17 on 1/17/2009 12:48 PM >
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...have wood?



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Re: Exploring a tankership?
<Reply # 18 on 1/18/2009 2:49 AM >
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Posted by Tupsumato


Could you explain what makes ships extremely dangerous. More dangerous than, say, armchair exploring in UER, but I and my girlfriend, who's been in the navy, couldn't think of anything else dangerous on a ship than falling or slipping, and that can happen anywhere. And since the ship is in use, there's no danger of falling through decks etc., nor getting lost in the engine room.

As for "seasoned mariners", there's this song in which they say that while ships of the past were made of wood, the men were made of iron. Today the ships are made of iron, and the men...


What would little me know? My former boyfriend is a QMED.
Does the Navy leave it's boats and ships unguarded? Armchair explorers want to know!
Only one way to know for sure.

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Re: Exploring a tankership?
<Reply # 19 on 1/18/2009 3:35 AM >
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No more dangerous than a lot of active, or semi active industrial sites, but expect them to be well guarded, and you really can't use the "I got lost and just wondered in here by mistake" on a ship. Cameras around your neck or not, if someone catches you on board. they're just as likely to think you're a thief.

Places like this are almost always better to ask, a lot of merchant marines I've talked to are proud of their careers, and of where they work, if you're lucky, and they can/have time you might even get a guided tour.

I don't take a lot of pics, but the ones I take without always having to look over my shoulder do seem to come out a little better.

Just be careful, UER can always use another "Well, we got busted" story.

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