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<Reply # 40 on 12/4/2008 10:52 AM >
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I say burn ActionSatisfaction.
anyways, to me, it's just a flag. it would be the same as taking someone's underwear out of an abandonment. just a piece of cloth.
I never understood the obsession with flags.
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Yeah, its a piece of cloth, that symbolizes you're government, and country.... and we all know what nationalism leads too.............. NAZI'S
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| |  | Re: Moral question-american flag
<Reply # 41 on 12/4/2008 10:57 AM >
|  | | | Posted by Tetrodotoxin
plus, i hate to slippery slope, but it starts with this flag and then...
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I've heard that flags are a typical Gateway Violation. First it's properly disposing of a flag, the next thing you know he's scrapping copper and tagging.
To BennyBear - If you feel like you should remove the flag, then do it.
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| | | Re: Moral question-american flag
<Reply # 42 on 12/4/2008 2:15 PM >
| | | | who cares?
if it looks cool in pictures, leave it.
if it doesnt...who cares?
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| | Re: Moral question-american flag
<Reply # 43 on 12/4/2008 6:23 PM >
| | | | If the flag is in really bad condition, take it home and look up the right way how to retire a flag. It includes reciting the national anthem and some other stuff. Just make sure you retire the flag respectfully and not just tossing it into a fire.
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| | | Re: Moral question-american flag
<Reply # 44 on 12/4/2008 6:33 PM >
| | | | Posted by elrais
If the flag is in really bad condition, take it home and look up the right way how to retire a flag. It includes reciting the national anthem and some other stuff. Just make sure you retire the flag respectfully and not just tossing it into a fire.
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I'm pretty sure he knows how to retire a flag, what with being a Boy Scout and all.
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| | | Re: Moral question-american flag
<Reply # 45 on 12/5/2008 1:41 AM >
| | | | I say if you want to take it and dispose of it properly go for it.
Thinking back on it I have found old flags in abandoned buildings, schools actually. I didnt take them, I left them be, or one that was on the ground I picked up an hung.
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| |  | Re: Moral question-american flag
<Reply # 46 on 12/5/2008 2:13 AM >
| | | | Wow, if you guys get this hung up about flags, I can't imagine how you'd feel about some of the things I have done in churches.
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| | | Re: Moral question-american flag
<Reply # 47 on 12/5/2008 2:19 AM >
| | | | Posted by BennyBear
I was recently exploring a school that had been abandoned...
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My personal stance on it is...
You seem like you've got a good head on your shoulders and you obviously don't take these things too lightly. You already know what is right and what is wrong, so follow your heart on the subject and do what YOU think is right. There isn't a person on this site that can tell you what is right or wrong in this game.
So, if that made any sense...
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| | | Re: Moral question-american flag
<Reply # 48 on 12/5/2008 8:09 AM >
| | | | Pics or GTFO.
Posted by MutantMandias
Wow, if you guys get this hung up about flags, I can't imagine how you'd feel about some of the things I have done in churches.
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| | Re: Moral question-american flag
<Reply # 49 on 12/5/2008 5:00 PM >
| | | | | Posted by SaraBellumI've heard that flags are a typical Gateway Violation. First it's properly disposing of a flag, the next thing you know he's scrapping copper and tagging |
just say NO.
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| | | Re: Moral question-american flag
<Reply # 50 on 12/7/2008 5:49 AM >
| | | | Posted by MutantMandias
Wow, if you guys get this hung up about flags, I can't imagine how you'd feel about some of the things I have done in churches.
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Religion and patriotism arent the same thing.
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| | Re: Moral question-american flag
<Reply # 51 on 12/7/2008 9:58 AM >
| | | | I'm a retired drill Sgt for a local Honor & Color Guard organization (includes guarding the flags or colors with USMC M1 replicas and demonstrating rifle drills for various events including funerals). I'm very well versed in the United States Code for the US Flag, and having it hang there without proper retirement or removal is violating the US Code and it's ethics.
You can view the actual US Code (rules and regs) here.
If it were up to me, I would honor my country and my past service to the country by the removal of the flag, and properly retire it or display it elsewhere for others to view and enjoy.
But that's just me... 
Going where others can't... |
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| | | Re: Moral question-american flag
<Reply # 52 on 12/7/2008 2:12 PM >
| | | | Posted by Soldat222
Religion and patriotism arent the same thing.
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I disagree.
re⋅li⋅gion [ri-lij-uhn]
–noun
- a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects
- something one believes in and follows devotedly; a point or matter of ethics or conscience
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| | | Re: Moral question-american flag
<Reply # 53 on 12/7/2008 2:16 PM >
| | | | Posted by RailGuy88
If it were up to me, I would honor my country and my past service to the country by the removal of the flag, and properly retire it or display it elsewhere for others to view and enjoy.
But that's just me...
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So... just curious... what if, instead of having to steal the flag, you had to kill some kittens to get the flag, would you do it then?
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| | Re: Moral question-american flag
<Reply # 54 on 12/7/2008 2:32 PM >
| | | | Maybe... 
Going where others can't... |
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| | | Re: Moral question-american flag
<Reply # 55 on 12/7/2008 2:46 PM >
| | | | Posted by MutantMandias
So... just curious... what if, instead of having to steal the flag, you had to kill some kittens to get the flag, would you do it then?
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Are they American kittens or non-enemy combatants?
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| | | Re: Moral question-american flag
<Reply # 56 on 12/7/2008 2:52 PM >
| | | | Posted by RailGuy88
Maybe...
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Well then, what if the only way to reach the hanging flag was to walk across the floor, upon which, some godless heathen had painted.... the American flag?
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| | Re: Moral question-american flag
<Reply # 57 on 12/7/2008 3:19 PM >
| | | | The kittens may be harbouring terrorists. And they have weapons of mass destruction. Really.
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| | Re: Moral question-american flag
<Reply # 58 on 12/7/2008 7:23 PM >
| | | | Posted by MutantMandias
So... just curious... what if, instead of having to steal the flag, you had to kill some kittens to get the flag, would you do it then? |
wasn't that a downloadable mission for call of duty 4?
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| | | Re: Moral question-american flag
<Reply # 59 on 12/7/2008 10:09 PM >
| | | | Posted by MutantMandias
I disagree.
re⋅li⋅gion [ri-lij-uhn]
–noun
- a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects
- something one believes in and follows devotedly; a point or matter of ethics or conscience
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You left some deffinitions out, particularly the mose commonly used one.
re⋅li⋅gion /rɪˈlɪdʒən/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [ri-lij-uhn] Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun 1. a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, esp. when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.
2. a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects: the Christian religion; the Buddhist religion.
3. the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices: a world council of religions.
4. the life or state of a monk, nun, etc.: to enter religion.
5. the practice of religious beliefs; ritual observance of faith.
6. something one believes in and follows devotedly; a point or matter of ethics or conscience: to make a religion of fighting prejudice.
7. religions, Archaic. religious rites.
8. Archaic. strict faithfulness; devotion: a religion to one's vow.
pa⋅tri⋅ot⋅ism /ˈpeɪtriəˌtɪzəm or, especially Brit., ˈpæ-/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [pey-tree-uh-tiz-uhm or, especially Brit., pa-] Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun devoted love, support, and defense of one's country; national loyalty.
Patriotism is clearly specific loyalty and respect for a nation, religion is far more encompasing and while some may be patriotic to the extent of it being almost religious, but there is another word for that, nationalism.
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