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 aurelie
     
Location: pacific northwest
Gender: Female
high tech:: low life.
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< on 12/2/2008 9:15 PM >
|  | | | there's a drain very near to my house that i plan on visiting frequently.
only problem is, there is a steep slide that is (so far) impossible to scale from the outfall.
traveling downstream from a manhole, the only way to get past it is to slide down and land rather painfully on your hip/bum.
this method also gets you very wet (unless wearing waders or a trash bag).
i recall that cave clan installed a rope in some of their slides, but i can't find the pictures.
also, there isn't anything near enough to the slide to tie a rope to.
perhaps some kind of rock climbing attachment thing could help?
a friend suggested bringing a series of bricks and tying them together to create a weight to tie the rope to, but i am dubious.
reckless thoughts abide; anachronistic and impulsive.
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metawaffle
 
King of Puns
Location: Brisbane!
Gender: Male
Purveyor of Fine Lampshades
| | | Re: drain question.
<Reply # 1 on 12/2/2008 10:43 PM >
| | | | Yeah, you'd presumably need your bricks to weigh more than you do, for a start 
If you already have entry points above and below the slide, though, is a rope really necessary?
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Site
Location: London, UK
Gender: Male
| | | Re: drain question.
<Reply # 2 on 12/3/2008 12:44 AM >
| | | | could drill some anchors, and then fit some rope from them...but again as meta said, why do you need to if you have access....
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AnAppleSnail
Location: Charlotte, NC
Gender: Male
ALL the flashlights!
| |  | | Re: drain question.
<Reply # 3 on 12/3/2008 1:04 AM >
| | | | Posted by aurelie
a friend suggested bringing a series of bricks and tying them together to create a weight to tie the rope to, but i am dubious.
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Without a picture I'm a little fuzzy on exactly what you mean, but it sounds like you have the choice of making this slide every time you visit the drain (and how to get out again?) or popping a manhole, neither of which are great to do. How high and steep is the slide? Is it easily accessible, could hobos use this to invade 'your' drain?
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aurelie
Location: pacific northwest
Gender: Female
high tech:: low life.
| | | Re: drain question.
<Reply # 4 on 12/3/2008 1:18 AM >
| | | | we usually get in via a manhole (there are a few options) but almost all of these are in very high traffic parking lots with security guards close by. so, we'd rather get in via the outfall.
this is the only picture i have of the slide.
reckless thoughts abide; anachronistic and impulsive.
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micro
 
Gender: Male
Slowly I turned
| | Re: drain question.
<Reply # 5 on 12/3/2008 1:30 AM >
| | | | Since it's not that high, your best bet is to make a ladder of some sort. Something along the lines of this: http://www.smwlawf...ges/community4.jpg
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terapr0
Location: Sauga City
Gender: Male
www . tohellandback . net
| | | Re: drain question.
<Reply # 6 on 12/3/2008 5:35 AM >
| | | | if your looking for a low-impact yet permanent solution, I'd suggest you check out one (or preferably two..just to be safe) of these climbing anchors:
http://en.petzl.co...oduits?Produit=597
They're designed for rock climbing, are incredibly strong and dont cost too much either. Petzl also sells removable ones if you want to leave no discernible traces of your visit behind. You'll need a drill and about 5 minutes to install them, but once in place, they aren't going anywhere. I'm not sure where your from, but here in Toronto I'd go to Mountain Equipment Co op to buy one...
Once you have this installed into the concrete, you can use it to anchor your rope.
hope this helps.
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Aleksandar
Location: United States
Gender: Male
your darkest shadow, my oldest friend; the world's become ashes, this is the end.
| | Re: drain question.
<Reply # 7 on 12/3/2008 5:56 AM >
| | | | packing in a simple wooden ladder like micro recommended is what i'd suggest too.
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dsankt
Location: live and in the fresh
| | | | Re: drain question.
<Reply # 8 on 12/3/2008 8:10 AM >
| | | | If it's a drain you're going often, or you like projects, or you feel civic minded then put in anchors (as suggested above petzl make a bunch, I can recommend http://en.petzl.co...oduits?Produit=379). They're pretty simple to install, if you drop in 2 at the top of the slide you can place a chain across the top as well.
I know a couple of northern lads who use clothesline...
Ladder is easier, but less fun.
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Tetrodotoxin
Location: NNJ
| | Re: drain question.
<Reply # 9 on 12/3/2008 12:32 PM >
| | | | don't do anchors. they probably won't be able to tie it back to you, but what if they do. and what if they do because some idiots found them inviting and end up getting hurt or killed?
in my town we have a tunnel and water system that runs down from a mountain, through "the gates of hell", and out into a river. so many other people would go during the spring. people would usually find them face down in storm drains down the street from where they entered.
i would only go during high heat summer days. drought seasons. it really wasn't about altering the tunnel or what gear to bring as much as it was just waiting for that window.
the only reason i'd start mounting pitons or whatever on an exploration is if the site was about to be leveled and it was my last or only time to explore it.
be safe.
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elrais
Gender: Male
| | Re: drain question.
<Reply # 10 on 12/3/2008 7:28 PM >
| | | | Yeah, putting anchors might not be the best unless you know what you're doing, but if you do, go for it. And definitely dont do the whole brick tying thing, thats a bad idea. I would go for the ladder idea because it's the most simple, but it might look suspicious if the outfall is in plain view.
In my experience with a very similar slide, I had three other friends and a rope. We got up by giving a boost up to one person with the rope, and then just helped each other up. Of course this method will probably be tiring, not the easiest, and probably the most dangerous,and you will get wet; but it might be fun.
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metawaffle
King of Puns
Location: Brisbane!
Gender: Male
Purveyor of Fine Lampshades
| | | Re: drain question.
<Reply # 12 on 12/3/2008 10:43 PM >
| | | | Posted by AnAppleSnail
Is it easily accessible, could hobos use this to invade 'your' drain?
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Hobo drain invasion?! Run!
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aurelie
Location: pacific northwest
Gender: Female
high tech:: low life.
| | | Re: drain question.
<Reply # 13 on 12/3/2008 11:35 PM >
| | | | okay. to clarify, the outfall is not in plain view. it is covered by foliage and not in an open area. the slide is some distance from the outfall, and unfortunately the wooden ladder will not work in this situation as the angle of the slope and the slippery floor would not allow it to stand freely.
thanks for the suggestions, though. i will look into the climbing equipment, but it looks like it would be too much work/money to install them.
reckless thoughts abide; anachronistic and impulsive.
loosely jacketed against the cold and ten thousand worlds for the choosing. |
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Tetrodotoxin
Location: NNJ
| | Re: drain question.
<Reply # 14 on 12/4/2008 12:15 AM >
| | | | yeah. good climbing gear cost money. i mean it is meant to save your life though. but if you don't know how to use it you're just as well buying some key chain carabiners and getting 1/4 inch garden twine from the hardware store.
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dsankt
Location: live and in the fresh
| | | | Re: drain question.
<Reply # 15 on 12/4/2008 12:29 AM >
| | | | Yeah sounds like too much hard work.
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micro
Gender: Male
Slowly I turned
| | Re: drain question.
<Reply # 16 on 12/4/2008 12:30 AM >
| | | | In that case, just get that tall kid in the picture to give you a boost up. Stand on his shoulders if you have to.
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elrais
Gender: Male
| | Re: drain question.
<Reply # 18 on 12/4/2008 3:24 AM >
| | | | Posted by shotgun_mario
I'd say just get a few friends and squirm up it... surely to be a hell of a lot more fun, and you'll certainly find a way that you can get you all up it quickly after just a few tries...
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Ah, that is the word I was thinking of, squirm, and yes it should be fun climbing up a slide with buddies, it was for me.
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zomgw00t
Location: Richmond, VA
Gender: Male
heh heh heh
| | | | Re: drain question.
<Reply # 19 on 12/19/2008 3:08 AM >
| | | | After reading this as an engineering-head, the whole idea of using climbing anchors hammered into the walls has me screaming, "NoooooOOOOoo!" Not so much as there is any immediate danger to you, but because a hole put in the side of a drain by one of those things will allow water to seep through the concrete and erode the dirt away from around the drain (especially in times of heavy flow). That leads to a sink-hole, and sink-holes can be quite catastrophic and difficult to repair. Sure, it would not cost you much of anything... but if you gather where I'm going, it just isn't the best. I also think that if you were to put a little more thought into the ladder idea you could make it work. Try things like extra weight (something as simple as a concrete block) attached to the end of the latter, and then to the end of that add something along the lines of a rubber or abrasive pad. Could work, if you do it right, and it could be pretty inexpensive.
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