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 trent
      
I'm Trent! Get Bent!
Location: Drainwhale hunting
Gender: Male
Not on UER anymore.
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<Reply # 20 on 7/6/2008 7:31 PM >
|  | | | I totally get what you mean. I really don't talk about UE at work, well only a slight few that I've actually UE'd with. I just think it's something that some people don't totally 'get'. I think it might also be an introvert/extrovert thing.
He who rules the underground, rules the city above.
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Skold
Location: Toronto
Gender: Female
done.
| | Re: UE and Professional Life
<Reply # 21 on 7/6/2008 7:50 PM >
| | | | No one cares about my urban exploring, professionally or personally 
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bandito
Location: Northern NJ
Gender: Male
| | Re: UE and Professional Life
<Reply # 22 on 7/7/2008 1:22 AM >
| | | | Posted by JC
If they react negatively then they are Dicks, None of my peers at work or even my boss think there is anything negative about it.
In general all of my friends , family, and Co-Workers know what I do in my spare time and absolutely love the photos that it produces.
Bottom line is you dont have to defend it, If someone re-acts nagatively to it then they're a dick and just dont talk to that person about it ever again because they just dont understand.
JC
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well you're lucky..not everyone works at a cool place like you do. You're right, you don't have to defend it. And by not talking about it at work, you won't have to. Also, unless your boss is an avid explorer and it'll help you get a promotion, why bother??
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Steed
  
Location: Edmonton/Seoul
Gender: Male
Your Friendly Neighbourhood Race Traitor
| | | Re: UE and Professional Life
<Reply # 23 on 7/7/2008 3:22 AM >
| | | | It doesn't have anything to do with my job, so I don't talk about it with coworkers. There are a lot of things I purposely don't talk about with my coworkers.
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Seventh Stage
Location: Boston, MA
Gender: Male
| | Re: UE and Professional Life
<Reply # 24 on 7/7/2008 3:50 AM >
| | | | Thanks for the advice, I still think I am going to keep my activities to myself for the foreseeable future. I would probably share that I have done exploring if the subject was ever presented directly, but I am not going to start talking about it otherwise. My problem has been when people ask what I was doing over a weekend or during a holiday when I have gone exploring, and having to come up with something else.
It does not bother me that it is an activity that most of them would not be in to. Most of them are married and have families, and they do not have the same urge we have to push boundaries when it leads to interesting outcomes.
Brute force is the last resort of the incompetent. |
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MutantMandias
Perverse and Often Baffling
Location: Atlanta, GA
Gender: Male
Are you a reporter? Contact me for a UE interview! Also not averse to the the idea of group/anal.
| | | Re: UE and Professional Life
<Reply # 25 on 7/7/2008 3:54 AM >
| | | | Posted by RaisinsSuck
Most of them are married and have families, and they do not have the same urge we have to push boundaries when it leads to interesting outcomes.
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I resent that comment.
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starberries
Location: West Chester, Pennsylvania
Gender: Female
| | Re: UE and Professional Life
<Reply # 26 on 7/7/2008 3:57 AM >
| | | | I balance just fine... but I guess not having a job helps...
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Crazyman
Location: somewhere in Missouri...
Gender: Male
If you try to fail, and succeed, which have you done?
| | Re: UE and Professional Life
<Reply # 27 on 7/7/2008 4:36 AM >
| | | | Posted by RaisinsSuck
Most of them are married and have families, and they do not have the same urge we have to push boundaries when it leads to interesting outcomes.
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Post by MutantMandias
I resent that comment. |
I second the resentment of that comment-I've been happily married for 5 years, and I still go exploring every chance I get and love it. Heck, sometimes my wife, and occasionally my 2-year-old daughter comes with me too!
On topic, I share my explorations with my co-workers all the time-they may think I'm crazy for doing this, but they always enjoy looking at the pictures...
I was thinking about how people seem to read the Bible a whole lot more as they get older; then it dawned on me - they're cramming for their final exam... |
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Seventh Stage
Location: Boston, MA
Gender: Male
| | Re: UE and Professional Life
<Reply # 28 on 7/7/2008 5:11 AM >
| | | | Posted by Crazyman
I second the resentment of that comment-I've been happily married for 5 years, and I still go exploring every chance I get and love it. Heck, sometimes my wife, and occasionally my 2-year-old daughter comes with me too!
On topic, I share my explorations with my co-workers all the time-they may think I'm crazy for doing this, but they always enjoy looking at the pictures...
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I phrased my last comment badly. I am married too, and I do not believe that being married or having children means that you cannot or would not want to UE. That being said most parents I have met are adversed to activities where they can be endangered or arrested. I have also noticed that a lot of people lose the fire to do high-impact hobbies as they get older, and I think that being in charge of a family facilitates that. If you can hold down a job, be a parent, and still find time for UE that is pretty impressive.
Brute force is the last resort of the incompetent. |
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Senseriffic
Location: Elizabeth, NJ
I am drowning in a digital sea
| | | Re: UE and Professional Life
<Reply # 29 on 7/9/2008 2:26 PM >
| | | | I used to work in an office. I kept it a secret till it was mentioned that one of the girls liked ghost hunters, so I figured shed be down. All of them were interested in what I did on the weekends 
but, my boss was a vouyeristic creep who allegedly had cameras in the bathroom and watched every site you went on, so I knew that he knew. He didn't fire me for that... or maybe he did.
My last job though, my boss was awesome. She even told me about a few places she knew of. I should call her up and ask her if she wants to come with me!! BTW shes 49 and has a 13 yr old son, but yes some people with kids wont take the risk. if I had a kid, I wouldn't at least not until they were older and not breast feeding!
The blind lead the blind into bottomless pits,
Still we smile and deny that we're cursed.
But of all our iniquities ignorance may be the worst. |
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cyn1c4l
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Gender: Male
Dr.Jekyll Status: OFFLINE
| | Re: UE and Professional Life
<Reply # 30 on 7/9/2008 3:36 PM >
| | | | I am open about it in my office, as well.
Maybe I'm lucky; I work in a support department for a huge software company, so we're all basically pirates anyway. But I use my exploring pictures as my desktop backgrounds all the time and have people wandering by ask me questions. Hell... I have articles from newspapers regarding UE taped onto my cubicle walls.
From time to time (rarely, though) I would have someone ask me slyly if it's illegal, etc., I just tell them I'm documenting our Urban History, where most people just pass it by without paying attention. I steer awsy from conversations with these people where I describe almost losing my nuts hopping a fence ;)
Cheers.
_Cyn
[Edit for spelling]
[last edit 7/9/2008 3:36 PM by cyn1c4l - edited 1 times]
guest@cyns_box$ gcc -o pwnd sploit.c
guest@cyns_box$ ./pwnd
error: r00t this. Connection terminated by remote host. |
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trent
I'm Trent! Get Bent!
Location: Drainwhale hunting
Gender: Male
Not on UER anymore.
| | | Re: UE and Professional Life
<Reply # 31 on 7/9/2008 3:52 PM >
| | | | After my last post in this thread I've actually told some more people at work what I do. We'll they kind of asked me, so I told the truth. Some women outside smoking asked me what happened to the "George Bush is a CRIMINAL" bumper sticker on my car. I had to explain that a hobby of mine is taking pictures of 'urban decay' (a tip I got from this thread).
I also explained that going to some of these places is border-line illegal and I figured it wouldn't be good exploring a site that is located next to a federal building, with that bumper sticker, while I have a beard, after 9-11.
They seemed okay with it. Though I also excused my self to 'check on a computer' before the conversation continued much farther.
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Oddly enough, talked to my dad last night and he wants to drive out from Buffalo to Rochester to walk the subway with me. He was really excited about it. Didn't know he was down for that of stuff, but now I see how he might be. I described it to him a little bit. He told me when he comes out next weekend to do this "he'll be packing heat". I laughed. Normally I really don't agree with that type a weaponry on a UE. A 4D maglight and a pocket knife is usually okay for me. But at least I won't have to worry about any nasty bums there. FYI, my dad's a police officer, so I don't mind. If he wasn't both my father and a [good] cop I wouldn't be going with him - not with a gun.
Now that I think about that, what an awesome UE partner he could be, someone who can legally carry concealed, is a cop, and definitely knows what really goes down in the urban underworld. He worked in the nasty Buffalo precincts for at least 20 years. Though, I don't think he'd take the risk on an infiltration...only abandonments.
He who rules the underground, rules the city above.
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willskith
Location: Boston, MA
Gender: Male
| |  | | Re: UE and Professional Life
<Reply # 32 on 7/10/2008 5:05 AM >
| | | | Posted by TrentReznor
If he wasn't both my father and a [good] cop I wouldn't be going with him - not with a gun.
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Your father may be a nice person, but the only "good" cop is a dead cop
grit your teeth in the face of fear. self repression is the true sign of a coward, toss your inhibitions to the wind. |
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KublaKhan
Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
With Satan, it's always gimmie, gimmie.
| | Re: UE and Professional Life
<Reply # 33 on 7/10/2008 5:58 AM >
| | | | Posted by RaisinsSuck
Thanks for the advice, I still think I am going to keep my activities to myself for the foreseeable future. I would probably share that I have done exploring if the subject was ever presented directly, but I am not going to start talking about it otherwise. My problem has been when people ask what I was doing over a weekend or during a holiday when I have gone exploring, and having to come up with something else.
It does not bother me that it is an activity that most of them would not be in to. Most of them are married and have families, and they do not have the same urge we have to push boundaries when it leads to interesting outcomes.
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What MM said. Big time.
"The truth is knowable. But probably not, ever, incontrovertible."
--Don DeLillo
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trent
I'm Trent! Get Bent!
Location: Drainwhale hunting
Gender: Male
Not on UER anymore.
| | | Re: UE and Professional Life
<Reply # 34 on 7/10/2008 11:10 AM >
| | | | Posted by willskith
Your father may be a nice person, but the only "good" cop is a dead cop
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WTF man! What is wrong with you? How the hell else am I supposed to read that comment and not be offended by that? [maybe that was your purpose]
Not that I love cops or something, I fucking hate them too (except 1). But there is a line, and I believe you just crossed it.
He who rules the underground, rules the city above.
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metawaffle
King of Puns
Location: Brisbane!
Gender: Male
Purveyor of Fine Lampshades
| | | Re: UE and Professional Life
<Reply # 35 on 7/10/2008 12:05 PM >
| | | | Posted by TrentReznor
WTF man! What is wrong with you? How the hell else am I supposed to read that comment and not be offended by that? [maybe that was your purpose]
Not that I love cops or something, I fucking hate them too (except 1). But there is a line, and I believe you just crossed it.
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Maybe he was joking, and we all just missed the irony?
http://www.longexposure.net |
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willskith
Location: Boston, MA
Gender: Male
| | | | Re: UE and Professional Life
<Reply # 36 on 7/10/2008 12:28 PM >
| | | | Posted by TrentReznor
WTF man! What is wrong with you? How the hell else am I supposed to read that comment and not be offended by that? [maybe that was your purpose]
Not that I love cops or something, I fucking hate them too (except 1). But there is a line, and I believe you just crossed it.
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Maybe my comment crossed the line. But you just said it yourself. They can be good people, but there is no such thing as a good cop.
grit your teeth in the face of fear. self repression is the true sign of a coward, toss your inhibitions to the wind. |
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trent
I'm Trent! Get Bent!
Location: Drainwhale hunting
Gender: Male
Not on UER anymore.
| | | Re: UE and Professional Life
<Reply # 37 on 7/10/2008 3:03 PM >
| | | | Posted by willskith
Maybe my comment crossed the line. But you just said it yourself. They can be good people, but there is no such thing as a good cop.
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Okay, lets get some things straight here...
Please don't put words in my mouth, because I did NOT say "there is no such thing as a good cop" - you did. (I said I hate cops).
Also, slightly changing the subject doesn't take away from the fact that you basically said my dad should be dead because he's a cop. That's messed up.
Bad Cop: Corrupted, arrests innocent people, abuses power, uses unnecessary force, does not contribute to society in any way.
Good Cop: Not corrupt, doesn't abuse power, is respectful to you (even if you broke the law), treats you like a human, generally good to have around.
Either way, I generally don't like police. I'm actually involved in a citizens advocacy group to disband my town's police force. Just because I don't like the concept of police in general, it doesn't mean that they are all bad. Also, just because one might stop me from UE'ing it doesn't necessarily mean he's a bad cop.
Even in general if you said they should all be dead it's no big deal. But when you directly reply to my comment about my father and then basically say he should be dead, that is very offensive.
My dad usually lets most people go, and rarely issues tickets unless it's a DWI or reckless driving, and doesn't arrest unless it's a major crime. He wouldn't give two shits about some UE'er in an abandoned building. So next time you encounter a police office, I hope it's not one like my father and it really is a bad cop.
MODS: Sorry this is so off topic and I'm sorry I've even replied this junk. But seriously, WTF?
He who rules the underground, rules the city above.
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micro
Gender: Male
Slowly I turned
| | Re: UE and Professional Life
<Reply # 38 on 7/10/2008 3:33 PM >
| | | | I've never had a co-worker react negatively to what it is I do. Most have been genuinely interested. Maybe it's because they're familiar with my photography, but more likely it's because I don't make it a point to tell people that I'm trespassing. Some explorers like to brag about this aspect because they think it makes them look cool. Keep in mind that not everyone's going to see it the same way you do so be careful about how you phrase things.
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SaraBellum
Berkshire Hunt
Location: Villa Villekulla
Gender: Female
Coming to a cinema near you this summer.
| | | Re: UE and Professional Life
<Reply # 39 on 7/10/2008 4:33 PM >
| | | | Most of my coworkers know, some have even gone with me. My last boss knew because I requested so many days off he finally asked me why I travel so much.
What's weird is that most of my parents coworkers know. When I bought my camera bag, it came with a free photobook from Shutterfly. Both my parents took the book to work with them to show it off.
[01:47:56] <GreyDeath> Sara just stares her enemies into submission and eventually madness
"You can either be wise or a bad-ass gangsta, but not both. You must choose your path." ~~metawaffle |
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