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1 2   UER Forum > Archived UE Photography > Digital SLR Aperture Rings... (Viewed 518 times) funker_joe  Location: Boulder, Colorado Gender: Male  |  |  |  |  Digital SLR Aperture Rings... < on 11/1/2007 12:21 PM >   Does anyone know if the Panasonic Lumix DMC-L1 is the only model of D-SLR that allows you to adjust the aperture via an aperture ring on the lens? So far, my only problem with digital is that no camera I have found is like my Pentax K-1000. That beast could knock out a bear and keep shooting fine. http://www.denverdrainers.org hyphen  Location: Ontario, Canada Gender: Male  |  Re: Digital SLR Aperture Rings... <Reply # 1 on 11/1/2007 12:52 PM >   The Pentax K10d will allow aperture adjustments on the ring once you set it to do so in the "custom" menu. You're restricted in terms of what modes you can shoot in, but it's not that big a deal. Set your desired aperture on the lens or camera shutter speed, check the DOF preview to see the light meter. Adjust to correct exposure. Shoot. It's a pretty good solution, and especially useful to you since you're already a Pentax person, and obviously used to shooting all manual. I have a K1000 and a KX. While I wouldn't try to knock out a bear with my K10d, I'd say it's a pretty sturdy piece of gear. EDIT: Used wrong terminology to describe limits of using aperture ring on a dslr. [last edit 11/1/2007 12:55 PM by hyphen - edited 1 times] EatsTooMuchJam  Location: Minneapolis, MN Gender: Male Squirty "Stickybuns" von Cherrypants  |  |  |  |  |  Re: Digital SLR Aperture Rings... <Reply # 2 on 11/1/2007 5:56 PM >   You could also get a Nikon DSLR and only use older lenses on it. The older Nikkor lenses all have aperture rings. But then you'd be stuck with grody Nikon so... "The large print giveth and the small print taketh away." -Tom Waits desmet  When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.  |  |  |  Re: Digital SLR Aperture Rings... <Reply # 3 on 11/1/2007 6:10 PM >   The Panasonic Lumix is a piece of shit. I would not advise buying a camera based on something like that. Not having the ap ring on the lens is better...much better. Don't get locked in to old habits because there are better systems out there. Interface is certainly a concern, but sacrificing a huge amount of image quality just for that? Not a good idea...especially for someone who obviously (since you own a k1000) is in to photography. TRUST ME you'll get used to a different system. K1000 is a great camera, I had one too, but I wouldnt hold it up as a hallmark of durability though. AE-1 or the Nikons are much more durable. [last edit 11/1/2007 6:11 PM by desmet - edited 2 times] Etownconcretex  Location: long island,NY Gender: Male  |  |  |  Re: Digital SLR Aperture Rings... <Reply # 4 on 11/1/2007 10:18 PM >   Posted by desmet The Panasonic Lumix is a piece of shit. I would not advise buying a camera based on something like that. Not having the ap ring on the lens is better...much better. Don't get locked in to old habits because there are better systems out there. Interface is certainly a concern, but sacrificing a huge amount of image quality just for that? Not a good idea...especially for someone who obviously (since you own a k1000) is in to photography. TRUST ME you'll get used to a different system. K1000 is a great camera, I had one too, but I wouldnt hold it up as a hallmark of durability though. AE-1 or the Nikons are much more durable. I agree the AE-1 is a very awesome film camera. mine is from 1984 and still meters very well and takes amazing pictures. xtacyturbo  Location: Pittsburgh Gender: Male  |  |  |  Re: Digital SLR Aperture Rings... <Reply # 5 on 11/1/2007 10:52 PM >   My Pentax *ist DL will also allow you to use the aperture ring on certain modes, but why go to all the trouble? One nice thing about Pentax is the lens mount hasn't changed in ages. The lenses for your K1000 will work on any modern Pentax SLR/DSLR. Though of course you may lose certain features depending on how basic/decked out that particular lens is. My photos of stuff: www.skuhnphoto.com desmet  When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.  |  |  |  Re: Digital SLR Aperture Rings... <Reply # 6 on 11/2/2007 12:21 AM >   Posted by Etownconcretex I agree the AE-1 is a very awesome film camera. mine is from 1984 and still meters very well and takes amazing pictures. Funny you mention meters because that was the one thing that went on my k1000. I was having to crank the iso down a bit when I last used it because the meter wasnt reading properly. AE-1 was always my dream manual camera, but I wound up going electronic instead. At some point I might even pick up an old manual for night shooting...or maybe just bust the k out again. hyphen  Location: Ontario, Canada Gender: Male  |  Re: Digital SLR Aperture Rings... <Reply # 7 on 11/2/2007 12:40 AM >   I just had to take my KX in to a repair shop because the meter broke. I put brand new batteries in when I bought it a few months ago. It worked for about two weeks, and then the needle started bouncing around sporadically and in another week it quit working altogether. I showed the repair guy the problem, and all he did was remove the batteries, clean the contacts on the battery housing, and replace the batteries. Works like a charm. I'd always thought of the K series as being some of the most durable cameras from the 70s and 80s, so I'm interested in why you feel otherwise, desmet. zenjaphy  Location: Buffalo, NY Gender: Male  |  |  |  Re: Digital SLR Aperture Rings... <Reply # 8 on 11/2/2007 5:25 AM >   Posted by EatsTooMuchJam You could also get a Nikon DSLR and only use older lenses on it. The older Nikkor lenses all have aperture rings. Except that you can't actually take a picture if you have the aperture ring set to anything other than the slowest f-stop. funker_joe  Location: Boulder, Colorado Gender: Male  |  |  |  |  Re: Digital SLR Aperture Rings... <Reply # 9 on 11/2/2007 9:46 AM >   Thanks for all the responses, it looks like the Pentax K10D is something I'm interested in. Of course I don't have the cash to drop now, but it's still nice to know Pentax makes a camera like that. I was very cautious when looking at the Lumix since it's made by Panasonic which I'm not sure about any reputations for making quality products. I think might just have to get the K10D when I can afford it. Unfortunately, my Canon Rebel XT + my lenses probably couldn't cover the money needed for the K10D. Oh well, I guess I'll just be working more hours! Thanks for the input. http://www.denverdrainers.org Washu  Location: Ottawa Gender: Male  |  |  |  Re: Digital SLR Aperture Rings... <Reply # 10 on 11/2/2007 1:28 PM >   If all your Pentax K mount lenses are old MF ones you can get an adapter to use them on your Rebel XT in stop-down mode. Should be pretty similar to using them on a K10D. EatsTooMuchJam  Location: Minneapolis, MN Gender: Male Squirty "Stickybuns" von Cherrypants  |  |  |  |  |  Re: Digital SLR Aperture Rings... <Reply # 11 on 11/2/2007 2:06 PM >   Posted by zenjaphy Except that you can't actually take a picture if you have the aperture ring set to anything other than the slowest f-stop. Oh! Nikon == poopcrap "The large print giveth and the small print taketh away." -Tom Waits zenjaphy  Location: Buffalo, NY Gender: Male  |  |  |  Re: Digital SLR Aperture Rings... <Reply # 12 on 11/2/2007 4:22 PM >   Oh! Nikon == poopcrap I agree, making 30 years worth of lenses completely backwards compatible was a real bitch move on their part. You'd think were trying to not fuck over their customer base or some communist bullshit like that. EatsTooMuchJam  Location: Minneapolis, MN Gender: Male Squirty "Stickybuns" von Cherrypants  |  |  |  |  |  Re: Digital SLR Aperture Rings... <Reply # 13 on 11/2/2007 5:33 PM >   Posted by zenjaphy I agree, making 30 years worth of lenses completely backwards compatible was a real bitch move on their part. You'd think were trying to not fuck over their customer base or some communist bullshit like that. Posted by zenjaphy Except that you can't actually take a picture if you have the aperture ring set to anything other than the slowest f-stop. Yes. "Completely backward compatible!" "The large print giveth and the small print taketh away." -Tom Waits imprezawrxsti  Location: Portland, OR Gender: Male nothing is true; everything is permitted  |  |  Re: Digital SLR Aperture Rings... <Reply # 14 on 11/2/2007 5:41 PM >   Posted by EatsTooMuchJam You could also get a Nikon DSLR and only use older lenses on it. The older Nikkor lenses all have aperture rings. But then you'd be stuck with grody Nikon so... we also have these quaint things called 'command dials'...there's one on the front and also (!) one on the back. you can adjust shutter speed and aperture with them! [last edit 11/2/2007 5:43 PM by imprezawrxsti - edited 1 times] do you know how to waltz? Washu  Location: Ottawa Gender: Male  |  |  |  Re: Digital SLR Aperture Rings... <Reply # 15 on 11/2/2007 5:42 PM >   Posted by zenjaphy I agree, making 30 years worth of lenses completely backwards compatible was a real bitch move on their part. You'd think were trying to not fuck over their customer base or some communist bullshit like that. One of the big reasons Canon has its dominant position in the SLR market is because it took a gamble and made the EOS system. It was several years before Nikon or anyone else had something comparable in an AF system. Also, Nikor lenses are only backwards compatible on the high end. You need a three digit or higher Nikon dSLR to use old lenses. The cheaper two digit (D80, D40 and previous models) cannot meter with old lenses at all. That's not counting the D40/D40X which need lenses with internal focusing, all of which are far newer than the EOS system. zenjaphy  Location: Buffalo, NY Gender: Male  |  |  |  Re: Digital SLR Aperture Rings... <Reply # 16 on 11/2/2007 6:35 PM >   Also, Nikor lenses are only backwards compatible on the high end. You need a three digit or higher Nikon dSLR to use old lenses. The cheaper two digit (D80, D40 and previous models) cannot meter with old lenses at all. That's not counting the D40/D40X which need lenses with internal focusing, all of which are far newer than the EOS system. Except that you can mod old lenses to meter with the newer cameras. You can't even mount manual focus Canon Lenses on EOS bodies and that was the only point I was trying to make. imprezawrxsti  Location: Portland, OR Gender: Male nothing is true; everything is permitted  |  |  Re: Digital SLR Aperture Rings... <Reply # 17 on 11/2/2007 11:07 PM >   Posted by zenjaphy Except that you can mod old lenses to meter with the newer cameras. You can't even mount manual focus Canon Lenses on EOS bodies and that was the only point I was trying to make. Good point. I've used an old Nikkor 50mm 1.2 on my D80 before. As long as you have a basic sense of the relationship between exposure and aperture, you're fine. And the Nikon pro bodies all have AIS couplers. In layman's terms, that means you can use almost any F mount lens Nikon's ever made as you would any modern AF lens, meter and all. [last edit 11/2/2007 11:08 PM by imprezawrxsti - edited 1 times] do you know how to waltz? tron_2.0  Location: Ohio Gender: Male  |  |  |  Re: Digital SLR Aperture Rings... <Reply # 18 on 11/2/2007 11:43 PM >   Sometimes I put Nikon lenses on my EOS bodies. Oh adapter rings.... [quote][i]Posted by yokes[/i] I find your lack of coziness.... disturbing. [/quote] zenjaphy  Location: Buffalo, NY Gender: Male  |  |  |  Re: Digital SLR Aperture Rings... <Reply # 19 on 11/3/2007 5:04 AM >   On modding lenses: The only thing that prevents AI-S (Post 1977 manual focus) lenses from metering on a camera like the D80 is that the lenses lacks the couplers which tells the meter what the focal length and aperture range of the lens are. SO, what some industrious souls are doing is taking those couplers off of broken AF lenses of the same focal length and attaching them to AI-S lenses, in essence tricking the meter. Sometimes I put Nikon lenses on my EOS bodies. Oh adapter rings.... 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