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Location: Canada
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<Reply # 20 on 5/8/2007 11:32 PM >
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They catch you with those and it's over. I'd try looking for another way in.
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Do u seriously think most cops even know what that is?
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Soldat
  
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Gender: Male
The Mayor of Noobtown
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<Reply # 21 on 5/9/2007 1:37 AM >
| | | | Why not use them on the fence then either leave them on or near your point of entry while on location so if you are caught they are not on you?
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Timothy R. Pendergast
Location: Columbia, SC
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 22 on 5/9/2007 3:50 AM >
| | | | You misunderstand...the folding metal things are pointless, because they're fairly heavy, bulky and clank like a fucking choo choo train. The activist things are pretty slick, except for the attaching with a cheap brass keyclip.
Please don't be stupid. It might piss me off so much that I have a seizure or something. I hate stupid people. |
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oxygen8
Location: Toronto
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 23 on 5/9/2007 12:37 PM >
| | | | The rope step with the garden hose and carabiner sounds like a good idea. as long as the carabiner is rated to hold weight..
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Glass
Location: Chicago
as one does
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<Reply # 24 on 5/9/2007 3:21 PM >
| | | | A keychain D-clip is the answer! 
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vic_vr6
Location: portland, or
Gender: Male
disco stu doesnt advertise.
| | | | Re: Will these get you in trouble?
<Reply # 25 on 5/9/2007 9:31 PM >
| | | | Posted by Soldat222
Why not use them on the fence then either leave them on or near your point of entry while on location so if you are caught they are not on you?
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exactly.
I am gonna make a pair of these for my next exploration. as long as your not caught in the act of using them id say your fairly safe.
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Timothy R. Pendergast
Location: Columbia, SC
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 26 on 5/9/2007 9:45 PM >
| | | | Posted by Glass
A keychain D-clip is the answer!
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Actually, you might be right. Those little dinky "toy" 'biners are pretty fucking strong. I use them to support my hammock when I backpack, and they've held up me and a friend with no problem, even with a good amount of moving around.
Since the weave of the fence would "give" a little bit, it's not really rigid enough, and wouldn't be suddenly loaded like if one used it for climbing pro and fell. I think it would work.
Maybe I'll do some super unscientific load testing tomorrow.
Please don't be stupid. It might piss me off so much that I have a seizure or something. I hate stupid people. |
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NoSuchPerson
 
Stop, or I'll ask you again!
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<Reply # 27 on 5/9/2007 10:00 PM >
| | | | I don't think something like that would be grounds to get in trouble, however it certainly would make you look a lot more guilty. If I were to catch somebody with something like that (or anything that didn't look "normal"), at the very least I would be suspicious and would question you a lot more than I normally would.
Unit calling radio say again? |
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Timothy R. Pendergast
Location: Columbia, SC
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 28 on 5/9/2007 11:08 PM >
| | | | Posted by ExKa|iBuR
I don't think something like that would be grounds to get in trouble, however it certainly would make you look a lot more guilty. If I were to catch somebody with something like that (or anything that didn't look "normal"), at the very least I would be suspicious and would question you a lot more than I normally would.
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On that note...
If you wanted to be ultra sneaky, you could use 2' long sections of rope, each with a loop in the end, and a small 'biner on the other. Link them together with the 'biners, and use it as a belt. That's pretty inconspicuous, yes?
Please don't be stupid. It might piss me off so much that I have a seizure or something. I hate stupid people. |
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NoSuchPerson
Stop, or I'll ask you again!
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<Reply # 29 on 5/9/2007 11:28 PM >
| | | | "What is the rope for sir?"
Unless you could come up with a good answer off the top of your head, same deal as above.
Unit calling radio say again? |
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Timothy R. Pendergast
Location: Columbia, SC
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 30 on 5/9/2007 11:33 PM >
| | | | "My belt broke, Officer. This rope is off my camping pack, and all I had to replace it since it's (Sunday/evening/holiday)."
I personally generally wear my shirt untucked, so something being worn as a belt shouldn't be visible, unless you already had cause for a search. Maybe?
Please don't be stupid. It might piss me off so much that I have a seizure or something. I hate stupid people. |
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WhiteCollarBoy
Location: Chicago, Il
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 31 on 5/9/2007 11:35 PM >
| | | | All of us HS/LD guys use Tabi boots.
"It would be nice if I could blink (like Jeannie) and make some of you be afflicted with legs that are like pogo sticks, yes, pogo sticks, for the rest of your lives, and all of the ink shall run from your proud tattoos until it reforms on your foreheads only to spell out, "I am a demanding Bitch, everything should be my way." - JT Colfax |
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blackhawk
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Location: Mission Control
UER newbie
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<Reply # 32 on 5/9/2007 11:39 PM >
| | | | Posted by oxygen8
Really thats what it's about. i don't know about you but my foot cannot fit into the holes of a standard chainlink fence. and it's especially awkward to try and do an 8 foot fence.. a solid one, with a bookbag and tripod on your back. i mean i did it but my hands were killing me afterwards, i'm just looking for anything to make it a little easier.
here's another thing i've seen. DIY solution, although i don't know that i'd trust my weight to it..
http://www.schnews...limbing-fences.htm
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You don't need a foothold to climb a standard a 8 even 10 foot barbed wire top fence. Just some upper body strength and balls (that don't droop)
Vibram soles work fine; you use mostly your arms while bracing with your feet, like climbing an T or I-beam.
Alternating climb at a gate as it's easier to breach there.
A tree or such right against the fence is very helpful.
Don't carry excessive shit. If you get hung up at the top, impaled or otherwise hooked, your in for a painful lesson, and maybe lots of stitches.
Strong lats and triceps help a lot.
Never carry tools.
Tools show premeditation and intent.
Experienced cops have seen lots of "tricks"; don't assume yours is a novelty. Even if it is, they can still simply R&D it, call for back up, etc.
They probably will.
Use care when breaching fences.
You can be hurt seriously if not careful.
In most states it turns into a misdemeanor trespass as soon as you breach it.
Tools may increase the severity charges too if caught.
Always assume you may be caught, adjust accordingly.
Make sure any encounters will be survivable beforehand (legally/physically), or just leave it be!
Just when I thought I was out... they pulled me back in.
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R.e.t
Location: Oakville/Burlington
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<Reply # 33 on 5/9/2007 11:52 PM >
| | | | I was going to say ZipTies would work pretty well. and yu could leave em up.
If the owner looks, he will prolly think someone tried to put a sign on his fence...But i like this idea of learning to do it without tools, cause one day they might not be around.
-Practices nearly everyday now-
X.x Stupid lack of upper body Strength...
-R.e.t
- "There Is No Tommow!!!"
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NoSuchPerson
Stop, or I'll ask you again!
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<Reply # 34 on 5/9/2007 11:59 PM >
| | | | Posted by Timothy R. Pendergast
"My belt broke, Officer. This rope is off my camping pack, and all I had to replace it since it's (Sunday/evening/holiday)."
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Personally speaking, I wouldn't believe an excuse like that for a second. I've heard some good excuses from people before, but generally common sense will prevail. IE, if it sounds like BS, it probably is.
I really like the zip tie idea though. They're small and strong, and really easy to ditch.
Unit calling radio say again? |
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Timothy R. Pendergast
Location: Columbia, SC
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 35 on 5/10/2007 12:15 AM >
| | | | Yeah,the zipties are fuckin smart. I feel stupid for not thinking of that one. They'd be more rigid and able to retain their shape than un-reinforced rope.
Please don't be stupid. It might piss me off so much that I have a seizure or something. I hate stupid people. |
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R.e.t
Location: Oakville/Burlington
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<Reply # 36 on 5/10/2007 12:39 AM >
| | | | Posted by Timothy R. Pendergast
Yeah,the zipties are fuckin smart. I feel stupid for not thinking of that one. They'd be more rigid and able to retain their shape than un-reinforced rope.
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XD
Thank yu?
I randomly saw some today and went...dude...that could work.
Not smart, i just randomly got lucky.
-R.e.t
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blackhawk
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Location: Mission Control
UER newbie
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<Reply # 37 on 5/10/2007 1:08 AM >
| | | | Posted by Timothy R. Pendergast
Yeah,the zipties are fuckin smart. I feel stupid for not thinking of that one. They'd be more rigid and able to retain their shape than un-reinforced rope.
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Ummm, I hate to say this, but first most zip ties don't have the tensile strength to support a man, and they're not needed.
Worse if a cop finds you with them, the first thing that will flash through their mind is what they use them for; restraint devices.
Just add some masking tape and that will throughly convince them you need to be dealt with.
Doing chin-ups and dips for reps, in while maintaining strict form, will do more for your fence climbing abilities than any device.
A thick a old coat, piece of leather, etc. might be nice to throw over barbed wiring, or my personal technological dread; razor wire.
Or maybe just go under it, or find someone else's hole (my favorite).
Just when I thought I was out... they pulled me back in.
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Timothy R. Pendergast
Location: Columbia, SC
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 38 on 5/10/2007 1:19 AM >
| | | | There's chain link out there with holes that are about 1.5" square. The zipties wouldn't be holding your full body weight, either. The weight would be distributed between 4 of them at a time, and if it's really sketchy, use two for each hold.
Sometimes it really doesn't matter what people think...it's hard to make a case for intent, and that's something I would take my chances on. I don't mind being detained, it's criminal charges (that I can't beat) that I have problems with. There is no listing in MGLs for "posession of kidnapper's accoutrements" or "posession of restraints", and not many people would think they could be used as steps for climbing. I think that makes the chances of a DA being willing to pursue charges low enough to take the risk.
Please don't be stupid. It might piss me off so much that I have a seizure or something. I hate stupid people. |
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ryan
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Location: Providence RI
Gender: Male
F/gayz
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<Reply # 39 on 5/10/2007 1:32 AM >
| | | | Posted by Rana X.
http://www.amas.ne...ordId/TG-16-08.htm
my feet are so small i can actually fit them in the holes in chain link alot of the time (men's size 3) but ive actually heard rumors of people using those ninja boots 
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I hope you are joking....
As for this location whats this fence like? If you can fit your hands in the fence you should have no problem. If that fails just bring a friend and have him give you ten fingers so your up high enough to grab the top. Two average height people (5' 10") give or take a couple inches should be able to to get you up high enough to grab about a 15' fence. Once your up either drop down a rope or reach down and pull the friend up.
I climb stuff!
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