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 Jester
  
Location: Vancouver,B.C. Canada
Gender: Male
Always just out of sight...
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<Reply # 20 on 4/6/2003 3:48 AM >
|  | | | I've looked at the rebel LED light, and it's not bad, but you'd probably find the performance of a Streamlight stylus 2 better. In canada they cost about $21 +tax and are really really good. You can get them in a variety of different colored LED's, we use the red for the non disruption of night vision on high security missions... and they are the size of a pen and very durable as well. Check them out.
It requires wisdom to understand wisdom: the music is nothing if the audience is deaf. |
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MacGyver
Location: St Paul, Minnesota
Gender: Male
"Someone go find me a paperclip, a D-cell battery, and a cheese grater"
| | Re: Garrity Flashlights
<Reply # 21 on 4/6/2003 4:09 AM >
| | | | one of my AA mags treated me well for an hour of steam tunneling last night. I was a little paranoid about not having a backup light, with having to squeeze between hot pipes and narrowly avoid scalding valve handles. This was tricky enough WITH light. Bottom line: whatever you've got, make sure it's redundant or you can live without it.
Like a fiend with his dope / a drunkard his wine / a man will have lust for the lure of the mine
"If you are not part of the solution, you are not dissolved in the solvent." |
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tick
Location: Abingdon, VA
Gender: Male
| |  | | Re: Garrity Flashlights
<Reply # 22 on 4/6/2003 5:15 AM >
| | | | Posted by The Orange Prince
Does anyone recommend miner-type headset flashlights when exploring?
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Yes, highly. I use a Princeton Tec Solo headlamp - pretty nice, it comes with both standard and a halogen bulbs, and both wide and focused reflectors. And it's waterproof, 'cause you never know when you might slip and fall into a raging underground stream.
I used to use Mag-Lites exclusively, until I dropped one from a foot above the ground, and it immediately stopped working. Not something I'm willing to trust my life with.
I've also used LED headlamps and flashlights in a variety of situations. I guess they're ok if the power goes out and you need to find your way around an apartment... But for any real use? I suppose they're tolerable, if you're exploring a small tunnel, and you're not with anyone who's using a more powerful flashlight. I'll stick to real lights though.
All in all, concealibility is very important to me... second only to reliability. That's why I've stayed away from the larger flashlights.
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Jester
Location: Vancouver,B.C. Canada
Gender: Male
Always just out of sight...
| | | Re: Garrity Flashlights
<Reply # 23 on 4/6/2003 5:25 AM >
| | | | What light is recommended is highly subjective, based on your types of mission. Yeah, if you're in tunnels or drains, the brighter the better. But, if you do covert missions a nice bright headlamp or giant spotlight is NOT A BENEFIT. We have a variety of lights, and choose which to take based upon where we are going.
It requires wisdom to understand wisdom: the music is nothing if the audience is deaf. |
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backmask
Location: Barrie, Ontario :l
Gender: Male
| |  | Re: Garrity Flashlights
<Reply # 24 on 5/18/2003 8:49 AM >
| | | | I usually just use 2 dollarstore flashlights...while draining that is, which I seem to be doing on 90% of my adventures. They're long lasting, cheap, waterproof, and you dont have to worry about dropping them. One time I even went Hardcore with an oil lantern \M/
My father was a diddler. |
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uem-Mokonax
Location: Montréal, Canada
| | | Re: Garrity Flashlights
<Reply # 25 on 5/18/2003 12:40 PM >
| | | | Posted by backmask
I usually just use 2 dollarstore flashlights...while draining that is, which I seem to be doing on 90% of my adventures. They're long lasting, cheap, waterproof, and you dont have to worry about dropping them. One time I even went Hardcore with an oil lantern \M/
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You are ghetto in an efficient and thoughtful way!
"Dark blue is the geek's black." - Tux, OPE 95
Urban Exploration Montreal |
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backmask
Location: Barrie, Ontario :l
Gender: Male
| | | Re: Garrity Flashlights
<Reply # 26 on 5/18/2003 6:08 PM >
| | | | That I Am...
My father was a diddler. |
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RevSM
Location: South Central Texas
| | | Re: Garrity Flashlights
<Reply # 27 on 5/19/2003 3:01 PM >
| | | | I’m surprised how few people use the US military style angle-head flashlights. They come with the red, blue and semi opaque white gels and come with a replacement bulb. They give an average amount of light but can be clipped to your belt or something easily and still shines the light in the right direction.
I’m considering moving to an LED light but haven’t decided which yet.
As for head lamps I love mine:
They’re shaped like glasses and when you put them on they automatically make the contact and turn on. They do take 4 AAA batteries but even if they are kind of a novelty I think they’re cool.
Tetanus for Breakfast!
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uem-Tux
 
Iron Wok Jan
Location: Montreal
Gender: Male
UE Geek
| | | | Re: Garrity Flashlights
<Reply # 28 on 5/19/2003 8:03 PM >
| | | | Mokonax has a pretty sweet LED headlight called the "Moonlight". It casts a nice Blue-ish white glow. It works great for drains and tunnels. It's not super-bright, but it has good dispersion, so you can see a lot of what's around you, if not a huge amount of what's ahead.
For basic indoors stuff, I use a 2AA Maglite, and for drains and abandons, I use a big handlight. I've dropped my mag a few times and it's never gone out on me. 
Urban Exploration Montreal
Why are you the way that you are? |
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Allva
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Gender: Male
I have my moments.
| | | Re: Garrity Flashlights
<Reply # 29 on 5/19/2003 9:31 PM >
| | | | I use various flashlights as needed. I use big Energizer
torch for larger sites, for smaller areas I use a combination of smaller Energizer amd Maglite(both 2D).
Military style angle head(2D) flashlight is always with me as it creates a stong beam and has colored filters.Two LED flashlights are also a constant presence(one 3 LEDs and the other 7 LEDs).LEDs are great for illuminating pitch black areas. They can also be used as defensive tool since they are so amazingly hard on the eyes.
I found that Garrity products tend to have a very rough switch and I could not use them successfully.
I have a headlight lamp from Rayovac that fits onto a hardhat with it's rubber bands. This great lamp is a combination strong headlamp, red LED and white LED.
About $16.00 - $18.00 at Wal Mart or Loews.
Highly recommended.
Life is hard, but it's harder when you're stupid. |
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Steadman
Location: East Texas
Gender: Male
| | | Re: Garrity Flashlights
<Reply # 30 on 5/19/2003 10:24 PM >
| | | | I can relate Backmask. The first 5 or 6 draining missions that CMH and I went on, our primary lights were one dollar flashlights (batteries included!) that we picked up at the local Family Dollar. They were powered on 2 AAs and were labeled "SuperBrights", though thats a bit of a stretch. Mostly we bought them because they were cheap and expendable. We've learned now though that it's often more beneficial to go for the more expensive, reliable flashlights. This is especially true draining, where brighter is usually better.
I'm looking into a red LED light currently, and that stylus looks pretty good, especially for only $13.95 american.
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Jester
Location: Vancouver,B.C. Canada
Gender: Male
Always just out of sight...
| | | Re: Garrity Flashlights
<Reply # 31 on 5/19/2003 10:30 PM >
| | | | the stylus is an awesome little light. suprisingly powerful. Totally recommend them...
It requires wisdom to understand wisdom: the music is nothing if the audience is deaf. |
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Pyrodesiac
Location: NL, Canada
Gender: Male
TNT can make a dull day fun!
| | | Re: Garrity Flashlights
<Reply # 32 on 5/19/2003 11:44 PM >
| | | | I'll always stick to Maglites and military right angles.
Only turkies have left wings.
Happiness is a belt-fed weapon. |
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CMH
Gender: Male
| | Re: Garrity Flashlights
<Reply # 33 on 5/20/2003 1:09 AM >
| | | | Update... I bought the small Garrity I described in the two-pack. For some reason I cannot find a pic of this light for sale anywhere on the net... maybe it's really new or really old. Anyways, it's waterproof, floating, takes 2 AA, and is pretty bright for not much batteries. The light is almost totally covered in rubber, so it can survive drops better. It has a nice little cord on the end, perfect for gripping it in your mouth when you need to crawl with both hands. It set me back a whopping $5.11
The only problem I'm having is that the thing seems to chew up batteries and spit them out, but I suspect that this is caused by me pirating batteries from old Family Dollar flashlights (the famed "SuperBrights), and using old sorry batteries in general. I'll buy some name brands in a few days and see what the deal is.
Speaking of the Family Dollar $1 SuperBright... they have all plastic 'construction'. One day I'm just sitting in Spanish class and the thing fell a whopping 3 feet to the floor from my leather briefcase. The end of it broke, causing the batteries, lense, and a few plastic pieces and the spring to fly out across the room. It was pretty awkward. I kept the flashlight there in case I had to do some on-the-fly UE. I tried to put it back together, but it couldn't hold anymore. A few days later in Physics class, me and Steadman decided to destroy it. I set it down and put my foot on it, fairly softly. The thing shattered with a real loud noise and all the plastic shot everywhere. It was at that moment I knew that I needed to buy a new flashlight.
(imagine if that happened in a drain?)
"It's funnier that way." |
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backmask
Location: Barrie, Ontario :l
Gender: Male
| | | Re: Garrity Flashlights
<Reply # 34 on 5/20/2003 8:04 PM >
| | | | The dollarstore I get my lights from, has 2 diferent flashlights. One smaller one runs on 2 AA's, and a larger one that runs on 2 D's. I usually have the smaller one in my mouth and the larger one in my hand :/...hehe...but It wa a Biiiiig surprize when i compared my 1 Dollar light to Static's Maglight and couldn't see much of a difference...
I'm usually in drains though, so that's what I'm talking about.
My father was a diddler. |
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backmask
Location: Barrie, Ontario :l
Gender: Male
| | | Re: Garrity Flashlights
<Reply # 35 on 5/20/2003 8:07 PM >
| | | | Posted by CMH4
Speaking of the Family Dollar $1 SuperBright... they have all plastic 'construction'. One day I'm just sitting in Spanish class and the thing fell a whopping 3 feet to the floor from my leather briefcase. The end of it broke, causing the batteries, lense, and a few plastic pieces and the spring to fly out across the room. It was pretty awkward. I kept the flashlight there in case I had to do some on-the-fly UE. I tried to put it back together, but it couldn't hold anymore. A few days later in Physics class, me and Steadman decided to destroy it. I set it down and put my foot on it, fairly softly. The thing shattered with a real loud noise and all the plastic shot everywhere. It was at that moment I knew that I needed to buy a new flashlight.
(imagine if that happened in a drain?)
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And the ones thats I get for $1 are rubber coated and I put them through Hell.
I am yet to break one.
My father was a diddler. |
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uem-Mokonax
Location: Montréal, Canada
| | | Re: Garrity Flashlights
<Reply # 36 on 5/26/2003 1:30 PM >
| | | | As recent experience has taught me, nothing beats a belt-clipped 2AA Maglite for any occasional light needs during a live infiltration.
When you come across dimly-lit machine rooms, attics, basements, or what have you, you only need a little bit light. And when you're seeking these places, you don't want anything too obvious.
The Mag is slick and smooth and slips quickly in and out of its sheath beneath my shirt whenever I need it.
I like not having to dig around for my light. Now if only I could find a way to do that with my camera!
"Dark blue is the geek's black." - Tux, OPE 95
Urban Exploration Montreal |
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Pyrodesiac
Location: NL, Canada
Gender: Male
TNT can make a dull day fun!
| | | Re: Garrity Flashlights
<Reply # 37 on 5/26/2003 4:13 PM >
| | | | I have one of them in my bookbag which I carry pretty much everywhere. It's small enough to carry around in case I ever run into something, but as bright as flshlights twice it's size. If I know I'm going to be somewhere, I carry my 4D Mag-Lite, as it is brighter.
Only turkies have left wings.
Happiness is a belt-fed weapon. |
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Detroit
Moderator
Location: Ottawa /Gatineau /Montreal
Gender: Male
4-aminophenol and 2-5% potassium hydroxide
| |  | | Re: Garrity Flashlights
<Reply # 38 on 5/26/2003 4:42 PM >
| | | | I keep two AA mags (well one is a Mag copy) in my camera bag which is always in my car with me.
Normally I try use my 3D mag for exploring but it seems as though lately I have been finding targets of opportunity more than planned ops.
Cooper and I explored an abandoned warehouse completely with the AA mags and it was perfect. In fact it is easier for me to deal with the small lights because I always lug around a wack load of camera stuff. I got some good shots in dark areas of the Clarke Building at Turcot Yards with just my AA mag and my tripod.
I might actually replace them with some LED lights but I am in no rush.
The end of the beginning is the beginning of the end. |
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JimBoylan
Location: SouthEast Pennsylvania, U. S. of A.
Gender: Male
| | Re: Garrity Flashlights
<Reply # 39 on 2/16/2004 11:26 PM >
|  | | | Personally, I've stayed away from Garrity because the ones in the Philadelphia area are made in Red China. I worry about standardization, sometimes the communists don't want their people to be able to use capitalist goods, so American batteries and bulbs don't always dimensionally fit. (Or is it just sloppy workmanship?)
I like "hands-free".
I have a few "Just-Rite" brand miners' cap lanterns with 4 D cells in a red plastic belt pack and an elastic head or helmet band for the light. (One says "U.S. Army" in the blank space for a name!) Browsing in a British book on cavers' equipment, I discovered that I'm not the only one who found that the batteries don't always make clean contact with the terminals. One of the battery packs broke in cold weather just from the spring pressure of the contacts against the batteries inside it! General Electric and others have 3 different screw base incandescent bulbs for 4 D cell lamps. I buy the brightest one which means less battery life, so I carry spares.
Years ago I bought a Ray-o-Vac? 6 volt lantern battery light with a "L" shaped plastic covered wire handle. One end of the handle is attached on top and the free end bends down behind the case. My belt buckle fits very well between the handle and the case. (Anyone who says it looks like I'm exposing myself in a lewd way doesn't know anatomy!) It takes prefocused "PR" flashlight bulbs, which are also available in bright halogen style. I haven't been able to find any more such lanterns for sale, although at one time they were in the Boy Scouts of America catalog at a higher price, but with their insignia.
I do use the Army angle-head flashlight with the belt clip as backup. They can also be clipped to the webbing harness at chest level, or dangled from a key holder by the wire loop. Again, I try to use halogen bulbs. I make sure to get the Mil. specification instead of the immitation flashlights which break faster.
I did buy one 6 volt battery Garrity with a plastic "L" shaped handle, but it's so close to the case that I must wear my belt buckle at my side as only the belt itself will fit between the handle and the case.
I have not yet tried the expensive lamps marketed for cycling and S.C.U.B.A. diving that can be mounted on a helmet or head strap. I have a carbide accetylene cap lantern that I don't think is a miner's lantern because it doesn't have the metal gauze over the flame to make it a safety lantern. It's probably for cavers.
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