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UER Forum > Archived UE Photo Critiques > One in color (Viewed 563 times)
rsolimeo 


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One in color
< on 3/7/2007 3:55 PM >
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I dont usually do alot of color work, but this one was too good to turn into a black and white.

Please Let me know what you guys think about this shot, and how i can make it better. I dont really know too much about post processing in color, so i tried a little bit but didnt want to compromise the actual image. Thanks alot everyone.




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Re: One in color
<Reply # 1 on 3/7/2007 3:58 PM >
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are you still faking the clouds? that is a serious no no.

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Re: One in color
<Reply # 2 on 3/7/2007 4:04 PM >
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Posted by robdobi
are you still faking the clouds? that is a serious no no.


NO, i am not faking clouds!! the only thing that i did with this was play with the levels, which undoubtedly helped the clouds, but no no no i am not faking the clouds... it is really aggravating me that people are saying that.

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Re: One in color
<Reply # 3 on 3/7/2007 5:15 PM >
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only reason i brought it up is the clouds look very generic / the fringing around the structure looks very photochopped.



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Re: One in color
<Reply # 4 on 3/7/2007 5:49 PM >
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I think it looks great! The clouds could be less defined but I like it nonetheless.. And I don't think the clouds look fake.... ^_^

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Re: One in color
<Reply # 5 on 3/7/2007 5:57 PM >
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I agree with Rob. It does look very Photochopped. It looks like the structure was copied and pasted into a photo of clouds.

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Re: One in color
<Reply # 6 on 3/7/2007 6:22 PM >
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i did isolate the clouds to try and work on the columns separate, i am not really sure why that line showes up sometimes. the columns details were really weird due to me not trying to overexpose the clouds, is there anyway in photoshop that i can work on one part without it effecting the other.

For instance i had to lighten up the architecture, and play with the contrast to get it to look like it did when i shot it. but i dont know how to only work on one part of the photo with out effecting the other without cutting out a part and then repasting it on another layer.

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Re: One in color
<Reply # 7 on 3/7/2007 7:13 PM >
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The key is to get better at masking before you do the clouds. Check your feather amount.

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Re: One in color
<Reply # 8 on 3/7/2007 10:35 PM >
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Posted by yokes
The key is to get better at masking before you do the clouds. Check your feather amount.


i guess i should look for some tutorials or something, i just cant seem to get rid of that stupid line.

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Re: One in color
<Reply # 9 on 3/8/2007 2:49 AM >
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This is great. The sky does look a bit like a filter, I have to say, but I really like the pillars themselves. This makes me look forward to my trip to Italy and Greece this summer.

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Re: One in color
<Reply # 10 on 3/8/2007 5:25 AM >
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You either are lying and suck and masking, or you should stop trying to sharpen edges. That includes in-camera.

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Re: One in color
<Reply # 11 on 3/8/2007 5:48 AM >
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I would highly recommending bracketing your shots. Take a shot that exposes the columns the way you want, then one(same angle, of course) that exposes the clouds how you want.
More than likely, your sky will be blown out in your shot that exposes the columns how you like, then you can use the magic want to select and delete the sky. From there, just work with opacity and curves, levels, brightness/contrast, whatever you do, and get crazy with it.
Just a quick and dirty way of getting things done. I utilize it myself from time to time.

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Re: One in color
<Reply # 12 on 3/8/2007 3:25 PM >
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I thought there was a layer mask on the sky as well. What I was going to tell you to do was to gaussian blur the layer mask a bit to make the transition less harsh. This can go wrong, fuck things up, and require correction, but it almost always helps it look more natural.

You can also saturate out fringing like that. Just create a Hue/Saturation adjustment layer, go into the color (cyan or magenta) of the fringing your getting, reduce the width of the tones to nothing, then use the eyedropper to select the fringing and the eyedropper+ tool to add all the colors of the fringing. Then, set the saturation to 0. Hit OK, dump black into the layer mask to get rid of the desaturation, then use the paint brush to paint back in the desaturation only on the fringing.
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Re: One in color
<Reply # 13 on 3/8/2007 3:29 PM >
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Posted by Glass
You either are lying and suck and masking, or you should stop trying to sharpen edges. That includes in-camera.


oh i am lying AND suck AND masking... thanks for the constructive critism glass, you words are absolutely inspirational.

It is really weird how being on this website [and exposing myself to other peoples work and ideas] really makes me want to go out and keep shooting and keep striving for better pictures from myself. But the way that some people are totally condescending, makes me want to keep my photography to myself, as a way of protecting it, or protecting myself or something. Now i know that art is subjective, so some people are going to love things and some people are going to hate those same things, but i expect people to atleast be constructive. Telling someone that they are lying and that they suck is totally ridiculous in my opinion.

I really respect you Glass, and you are truely one of the people that really makes me want to strive to develop not only my craft but also my own individual style. However, it is disappointing to see the way that great talents treat people that dont have the same ability as they do.

If someone is on here, posting pictures, and asking for help, i believe that we should be helping those individuals make themselves better, especially if they are not at the same level as you are. Everyone had to have someone to help them along the way, and this place should be a great way for people to get help from 100's of people that they would never met in their lives. There is such a wealth of knowledge on this website, and i just wish that we were all a little less condescending to each other.



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Re: One in color
<Reply # 14 on 3/8/2007 3:32 PM >
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i wasn't really implying that you were lying (although it looks like it), i was trying to say whatever method you are using, it makes it look fake.

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Re: One in color
<Reply # 15 on 3/8/2007 4:07 PM >
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I was in a really assholic mood yesterday. I apologize.

I would revise my post and say "I agree with Rob".

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Re: One in color
<Reply # 16 on 3/8/2007 9:35 PM >
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Posted by rsolimeo
There is such a wealth of knowledge on this website, and i just wish that we were all a little less condescending to each other.


I agree entirely with everything you said in that post, my friend. But that took the cake.
Criticism is what it is. You have to learn to take it, and to just brush off the harshness and look deeper into what they're really saying. So, they said something that wasn't very nice, that's rough, i understand. I've taken some rough criticism. But, you just need to look at it in such a way that you can take something away from it. You seem to be doing that here in the sense that you're saying people should take a nicer approach to what they're saying and how they go about doing so.

Now, about what desmet said:
Gaussianing the clouds could actually work, along with the saturation as mentioned above. Clouds are a bit soft as is, so you could get away with a pretty decent amount of gaussian. I'd really like to see what you can do with that photo and re-post it. It's a great composition, it's just that halo needs to go. I know you can do it, and i would really like to see the final product.

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Re: One in color
<Reply # 17 on 3/8/2007 10:05 PM >
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Posted by rsolimeo
It is really weird how being on this website [and exposing myself to other peoples work and ideas] really makes me want to go out and keep shooting and keep striving for better pictures from myself. But the way that some people are totally condescending, makes me want to keep my photography to myself, as a way of protecting it, or protecting myself or something.


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This is the critique forum, not the possitive feedback forum, dont put up something for critique if your only expecting possitive feed back. If thats all you want then you'll never learn and improve. Dont worry about people being condescending, thats how real life is, people are dicks some times.

Personally I dont know if your clouds are photo shopped or not, I like the idea and they way they contrast against the pillars, however I think the angle on the building sucks and would work better if you had a better shot of the building with the clouds, not just the corner.

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Re: One in color
<Reply # 18 on 3/8/2007 10:06 PM >
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i didnt mean that we should all be really nice and not try and hurt anyones feelings, or any of that bullshit, but i do think that there is a difference between being constructive, and being condescending.

I understand that Glass was in a bad mood yesterday, and we all get that way sometimes, but i also dont think that he should have reacted the way that he did to your chair pictures that you posted, it is that kind on condescending attitude that i dont think has a place here. I dont always like looking at 15,000 pictures of hallways, but i can appreciate what people are trying to do, and see the subtil differences and such.

I dont mean to attack Glass, as i said b4 i really look up to him, i am just using him as an example, there are tons of people that are doing this.

i just dont really think that being condescending is helping anyone, except for falsely inflating peoples egos, and i just dont think that we should be acting this way towards each other. We are all here because we have common interests, we should all at least be respectful enough to be constructive that is all.

I feel better now that i have said my piece about this, take it how you may. maybe i am just being a baby...


Thanks for the advice vin, i am going to try and find some tutorials tonight and see if i can fix it.

M.C. - i also wish i had a little different of an angle, but there was not really much more than i shot, there was no building left, just the corner, now i wish i had walked around and shot the angle as a V or something.
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Re: One in color
<Reply # 19 on 3/8/2007 10:24 PM >
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Posted by rsolimeo
I dont mean to attack Glass


You can if you want. I put pics in critique to hear what people can throw at me all the time. I'd do it more if douchebags didn't use it as an opportunity to slander me, but in many ways that's what UER is best at.
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