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1 2   UER Forum > Archived Rookie Forum > Do you guys feel UEing is criminal trespassing? (Viewed 803 times) Deuterium  Location: PNW Gender: Male  |  Do you guys feel UEing is criminal trespassing? < on 11/29/2006 10:30 PM >   I think it depends on how you get in. kjohnnytarr  Location: Columbia, Missouri Gender: Male Team Asbestos: CoMO  |  |  Re: Do you guys feel UEing is criminal trespassing? <Reply # 1 on 11/29/2006 10:33 PM >   So, either this thread's going to be history in two hours, or it'll linger for days like a dead rat my dog brought home. Ethics. Sheesh. It seemed like a good idea at the time... femaledragonx  Location: Detroit & Everywhere Else I can dream up to go to The singularity is near  |  Re: Do you guys feel UEing is criminal trespassing? <Reply # 2 on 11/29/2006 10:34 PM >   what does "feel" have to do with it? i don't follow. "Collective fear stimulates herd instinct, and tends to produce ferocity toward those who are not regarded as members of the herd." -Bertrand Russell "How we spend our days is, of course, how we spend our lives." ~Annie Dillard el nerdo  Chief UER Lackey Gender: Male What are you, from the Department of Know'm Sayin's? You takin' a Know'm census?  |  |  Re: Do you guys feel UEing is criminal trespassing? <Reply # 3 on 11/29/2006 10:43 PM >   I make a motion to move this to the Rookie Forum. Second? KublaKhan  Location: Edinburgh, Scotland With Satan, it's always gimmie, gimmie.  |  Re: Do you guys feel UEing is criminal trespassing? <Reply # 4 on 11/29/2006 10:51 PM >   Posted by el nerdo I make a motion to move this to the Rookie Forum. Second? Seconded. "The truth is knowable. But probably not, ever, incontrovertible." --Don DeLillo PICS Pravus  Location: Chicago Area Gender: Male Now the two key words for tonight - "caution" and "flammable"...  |  |  |  Re: Do you guys feel UEing is criminal trespassing? <Reply # 5 on 11/29/2006 10:59 PM >   I'd say yes.. because it is.. regardless of if you 'feel' it should be or not, it is.. Live to Serve, Serve to Live.. dsankt  Location: live and in the fresh  |  |  |  Re: Do you guys feel UEing is criminal trespassing? <Reply # 6 on 11/29/2006 11:12 PM >   I make a motion to have this thread aborted with a pitchfork. sleepycity.net: watch out for the third rail baby, that shit is high voltage. urbex and urban exploration photography ericam  Location: Utica, NY - Des Moines, IA Gender: Female  |  |  Re: Do you guys feel UEing is criminal trespassing? <Reply # 7 on 11/29/2006 11:33 PM >   Is it criminal trespassing? Of course. Theres no way around it, if you're inside a place you're in who gives a fucking HOW you got in, you're in. Your trespassing. Do I give any sort of shit at all? No. Well theres on response. I don't know why I bothered to type that out. I could've been doing something better with that 60 seconds, like drinking. Squidgit  Location: Brighton Ontario Gender: Female There is not a sprig of grass that shoots uninteresting to me  |  |  Re: Do you guys feel UEing is criminal trespassing? <Reply # 8 on 11/29/2006 11:36 PM >   Posted by dsankt I make a motion to have this thread aborted with a pitchfork. ????????????????? *laugh* Just kidding Yes I think UEing is considered criminal... I DO take that into consideration since I am a mommy.. I try my best to be careful, and I don't go ANYWHERE alone or partially active places. The richness I achieve comes from Nature, the source of my inspiration. Jef  This member has been banned. See the banlist for more information. Gender: Male Hey Look at me....  |  Re: Do you guys feel UEing is criminal trespassing? <Reply # 9 on 11/29/2006 11:40 PM >   Fuck all ethics threads. My ethics are not yours, and yours are not mine.... We must also go out and meet the enemy before he reaches our shores. We must defeat him before he attacks us, before our cities are laid to waste. William Lyon Mackenzie King, Prime Minister of Canada from 1921-1926, 1926-1930 and 1935-1948 Mickael  Moderator Location: Canada Gender: Male  |  Re: Do you guys feel UEing is criminal trespassing? <Reply # 10 on 11/30/2006 12:08 AM >   Posted by el nerdo I make a motion to move this to the Rookie Forum. Second? Posted by KublaKhan Seconded. Moved. Need forum-related help / Besoin d'aide reliée au forum ? Contact a moderator tick  Location: Abingdon, VA Gender: Male  |  |  |  Re: Do you guys feel UEing is criminal trespassing? <Reply # 11 on 11/30/2006 12:19 AM >   Depends on what you're exploring... I spent an afternoon last week in an abandoned power plant, but I didn't break a single law. I've rarely ever broken a law while draining. Learn your state's laws on trespassing! I cannot emphasize that enough. startedsmoking  Location: Edinburgh, UK Gender: Male  |  |  |  |  Re: Do you guys feel UEing is criminal trespassing? <Reply # 12 on 11/30/2006 12:55 AM >   Yeah it's illegal, thats part of what gives me a buzz. No the buzz is only part of why i like UE, but it would certainly be a much less thrilling experience without it. "take nothing but pictures, leaving nothing but footprints...unless it would be really fun" Pravus  Location: Chicago Area Gender: Male Now the two key words for tonight - "caution" and "flammable"...  |  |  |  Re: Do you guys feel UEing is criminal trespassing? <Reply # 13 on 11/30/2006 2:46 AM >   Posted by White Trash Fuck all ethics threads. My ethics are not yours, and yours are not mine.... except this isn't an ethics thread, it's a legal thread.. which obviously if you are on someone elses property and they don't want you there your trespassing... so this is ten fold more pointless then an ethics thread as this has absolutely nothing to do with ethics and there really isn't a grey area.. Live to Serve, Serve to Live.. florida_forgotten  Location: somewhere in the wilds of florida Gender: Male The shadows smile gleefully welcoming my presence. I am not among friends, but I am not alone  |  Re: Do you guys feel UEing is criminal trespassing? <Reply # 14 on 11/30/2006 4:02 AM >   Yeah and it is sooo much fun. Happiedaze  Location: Galveston Area, TX Gender: Female  |  |  |  Re: Do you guys feel UEing is criminal trespassing? <Reply # 15 on 11/30/2006 5:08 AM >   Give this person a break. Sheesh. 'Rookie' means new to this. This forum is suppose to be filled with rookie questions and non-rookies that like to help. Not intimidate and make them feel stupid. My answer... uhhh yes its criminal trespassing. No harm done, if you're doing it legit and for UE type reasons, but yes still criminal trespassing all the same. 'Our plans are all laid out, take all these unmarked roads, we blaze the trails to places no one goes, yeah!' -Rise Against AeroFennec  Location: NY Gender: Male  |  |  |  Re: Do you guys feel UEing is criminal trespassing? <Reply # 16 on 11/30/2006 5:20 AM >   I don't think it should be, but of course it is. http://www.lostintimeue.com Stewie  Location: Hamilton, Ontario Gender: Male kill your idols  |  |  Re: Do you guys feel UEing is criminal trespassing? <Reply # 17 on 11/30/2006 6:25 AM >   I don't feel that it is... I know that it is. It's right there in the criminal code of Canada. Entering private property without permission: trespassing. Now of course, if I gave a shit I wouldn't even be on this site would I? > The hierarchy of power dictates that the person with the most power does the least amount of work and retains the highest benefit. dsankt  Location: live and in the fresh  |  |  |  Re: Do you guys feel UEing is criminal trespassing? <Reply # 18 on 11/30/2006 9:22 AM >   tick said the most intelligent thing in this thread, I'm going to repeat it. If you are concerned about the legality of it.. LEARN THE TRESPASSING LAWS IN YOUR STATE / PROVINCE / COUNTRY. They vary widely. Also note the OP (original poster) said CRIMINAL trespass. There are varying levels of trespass depending on the situation. So where I am from (Australia) you can cross someones land (trespass) and it's considered a Tort. That is a crime against a person. That is not a criminal matter, and therefore NOT criminal trespass. If the person wronged doesn't choose to press charges there is nothing the police or state can do about it. Were I to be caught upon government land (say a military base) then that is a crime against the state - criminal trespass. Now that may be completely different to where you're from, and my understanding of the law is most likely flawed. This is why you DO NOT COME TO UER FOR LEGAL ADVICE. Look it up yourself or ask a lawyer. So exploring may be criminal trespass, depending where you are and how you explore. sleepycity.net: watch out for the third rail baby, that shit is high voltage. urbex and urban exploration photography el nerdo  Chief UER Lackey Gender: Male What are you, from the Department of Know'm Sayin's? You takin' a Know'm census?  |  |  Re: Do you guys feel UEing is criminal trespassing? <Reply # 19 on 11/30/2006 12:26 PM >   Posted by Happiedaze Give this person a break. Sheesh. 'Rookie' means new to this. This forum is suppose to be filled with rookie questions and non-rookies that like to help. Not intimidate and make them feel stupid. Thanks for the advice, rookie! 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