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 pep
 
Location: MONTREAL + VILLE EMARD
Gender: Female
 |  | Railway Sidings on St. Patrick st., Montreal
< on 10/25/2006 6:54 PM >
|  | | | Has anyone else noticed, that they are removing the railway sidings on St. Patrick. I only realized it now that all the ones up to Mittal (sidbec Dosco) have been removed. AND, they are slowly removing the tracks. These were the CP tracks that served the industries on St. Patrick The section from boul. Gauron to Irwin st. were known as the Lasalle Loop Line. These tracks were associated with the "3rd railway period" 1895 - 1917 and particularly with the Canadian Tube 1905 (sidbec dosco) and Dominion Textile 1908. It's really sad to see them go.
[last edit 10/25/2006 6:55 PM by pep - edited 1 times]
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nostra-YOUPPI!
  
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Location: Shahre:'on Kaybec
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| | Re: Railway Sidings on St. Patrick st., Montreal
<Reply # 1 on 10/25/2006 7:12 PM >
| | | | the tracks to dosco were pulled up around 2000, i remember them trucking doscos switcher engine out in pieces
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pep
Location: MONTREAL + VILLE EMARD
Gender: Female
| | Re: Railway Sidings on St. Patrick st., Montreal
<Reply # 2 on 10/25/2006 7:27 PM >
| | | | What i find sad is that the tracks, the sidings, the electric pylons even the railway crossing signs are all part of this industrial landscape - you start losing the character. This railway line goes back to 1847, the trains ran from Lachine to Montreal. I think it was called the Lachine Montreal Railroad.
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Charlie_Dunver
Location: Montreal
Gender: Male
| |  | Re: Railway Sidings on St. Patrick st., Montreal
<Reply # 3 on 10/25/2006 9:30 PM >
| | | | The railroad tracks on the north side of the canal were taken out in the early to mid 80's. This is west of the Monk bridge.
And this building with the tracks in front was between the old Bridge at de L'eglise and the Cote Saint Paul locks. It was on the land being developed today.
CD
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pep
Location: MONTREAL + VILLE EMARD
Gender: Female
| | Re: Railway Sidings on St. Patrick st., Montreal
<Reply # 4 on 10/25/2006 10:25 PM >
| | | | Great picture, what year? Your second foto doesn't show??
The railway on the north side of the canal belonged to CN. Canadian Car + Foundry was right there west of monk bridge. In fact the building's still there sort of and then again we know there's another building of CCF near Dollard. Hmmmm is there a connection between CN + CCF?
I used to bike on that side to go west, it was a dirt road, but it was the only way to avoid biking on the sidings on St-Pat. OUCH!!!
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| | | Re: Railway Sidings on St. Patrick st., Montreal
<Reply # 5 on 10/25/2006 11:28 PM >
| | | | why take the rail away even if there is no more train traffic. It cost lot of money, and what that narrow piece of land will be use for. I know that the wood block are considered hazardous material, but so what the land around the canal is already very contaminated.
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Charlie_Dunver
Location: Montreal
Gender: Male
| | | Re: Railway Sidings on St. Patrick st., Montreal
<Reply # 6 on 10/26/2006 12:00 AM >
| | | | 2nd pic should bve there now.
Yea, the old Canadian Car & Foundry plant is now all sided over by Kruger. It interests me because, you see, they built cars for Grand Trunk which had first developed the Turcot Yards. In those days, before the 20, it all had to be one rail yard, with maybe the Toronto highway passing through. But my question would be how did the cars go over? Was there an under/over pass? My guess is that around 1910 whatever cars may have been going through had to simply wait for trains.
The relationship with CN (Grand Trunk) and CC&F goes back possibly before 1909 ( they may have dealt with Dominion Car & Foundry previously e.g.) but it was established then with the formation of the new company CC&F. Of course the Grtand Trunk became CN in 1923 or is that 21, LOL.
Here is a good source for old railway suppliers.
http://www.nakina.net/builders1.html#CCC
Oh, yeah, just remembered that westbound traffic in those days may have gone by the
Upper Lachine Road, or Sainte Anne de Bellvue highway as it may have been called.
CD
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pep
Location: MONTREAL + VILLE EMARD
Gender: Female
| | Re: Railway Sidings on St. Patrick st., Montreal
<Reply # 7 on 10/26/2006 2:21 AM >
| | | | Charlie, I don't have an answer to how it connected to Toronto, all i got is that Grand Trunk made the link in 1855-56. In 1907 the track on the north of the canal from Ville st Pierre (but it shows as Lachine) to the ecluse st gabriel was known as the "grand trunk Railway Canal Bank Siding". Besides CC+F (1905) there was another company there called the Simplex Railway Appliance also est. 1905. I think Simplex was in Ville st pierre. It's interesting that parcs canada set up two cabooses on this side - old monk bridge and at Dollard.
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nostra-YOUPPI!
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Location: Shahre:'on Kaybec
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| | Re: Railway Sidings on St. Patrick st., Montreal
<Reply # 8 on 10/26/2006 3:10 AM >
| | | | charlie i know in the 80s when via rail was using the CCF buildings in ville st pierre they had 2 accesses to cn, one crossed notre dame right near the east end of the building and they had another that crossed dollard and went between century and the tavern. I know notre dame (between the turcot yards and CCF) exhisted in the 40s as its on some maps i have. the tracks that are visible in the maps as access are near the present site of the interchange to the present kruger plant as well as the other 2 mentionned accesses. From the maps the tracks on the north side of the canal were the private tracks for CCF and there was a single tramway line there too that connected to the private tram servitude in lachine
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Charlie_Dunver
Location: Montreal
Gender: Male
| | | Re: Railway Sidings on St. Patrick st., Montreal
<Reply # 9 on 10/26/2006 3:51 AM >
| | | | Cool!
Here is a little bit of something I just came across on my way to something else, heh heh.
Extensive alterations are being made to the Turcot plant of the Canadian Car & Foundry Company in Montreal to equip it for the manufacture of airplane parts. The company has also purchased the old Davidson foundry adjoining, which will be used for this project. Around $150,000 is being expended on this work.
The new fast bombing plane developed by the Canadian Car & Foundry at it s Fort William plant is said to have surpassed all expectations on it s trial flights.
from Machinists Monthly Journal
February 1939
http://www.library....asp?issue_id=1076
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Charlie_Dunver
Location: Montreal
Gender: Male
| | | Re: Railway Sidings on St. Patrick st., Montreal
<Reply # 10 on 10/26/2006 4:12 AM >
| | | | More trivia.
from Gary Shipton
Hey John,
Small coincidence,
My aunts also worked at Northern off St.Patrick Street during the war.My mother worked at Canadian Car Foundry in the long building on the 2-20 in Turcot Yard riveting tail assemblies for Hudson bombers,while her father worked at Canadian Arsenals in Lachine as an artillery shell inspector(He was formerly from the Royal School of Artillery CWO=then RCHA retired).Small world.My wife's aunts worked down in the east end at Vickers,building Canso patrol bombers.I think most people from Verdun worked in the war industry
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nostra-YOUPPI!
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Location: Shahre:'on Kaybec
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| | Re: Railway Sidings on St. Patrick st., Montreal
<Reply # 11 on 10/26/2006 4:15 AM >
| | | | canadian car and foundry also built busses
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robertpull
Location: Montreal
Gender: Male
| | Re: Railway Sidings on St. Patrick st., Montreal
<Reply # 12 on 10/26/2006 7:33 PM >
| | | | Posted by SPEK Photo
why take the rail away even if there is no more train traffic. It cost lot of money, and what that narrow piece of land will be use for. I know that the wood block are considered hazardous material, but so what the land around the canal is already very contaminated.
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Regarde les cours actuels des metaux, je pense en fait qu'ils les enlevent avant de se les faire voler!
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nostra-YOUPPI!
Umpire
Location: Shahre:'on Kaybec
Bonsoir et cest partie
| | Re: Railway Sidings on St. Patrick st., Montreal
<Reply # 13 on 10/27/2006 2:18 AM >
| | | | Posted by robertpull
Regarde les cours actuels des metaux, je pense en fait qu'ils les enlevent avant de se les faire voler!
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la ligne cn qui longe la 207 entre st isidore et st remi une bonne partie de la ligne a ete voler, il y a un gars qui sest fait arreter le mois passer meme
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