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 Comrade Jesus
 
Location: Southlake, Texas
Gender: Male
 |  |  | Drop Ceilings?
< on 9/30/2006 12:25 AM >
|  | | | I have a question, Is it possible to gain access to other parts of a building by going up through the tiles on a drop ceiling? I have yet to been able to check at my school or anything of that sort, so i would appreciate this because of the help it would provide.
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HillbillyHorus
   
Location: Charlottesville Virginia
Gender: Male
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| | | Re: Drop Ceilings?
<Reply # 1 on 9/30/2006 12:39 AM >
| | | | I doubt it, but it would be pretty awesome. Those ceiling tiles probably can't support much weight, certainly not a teenager, and there are a lot of pipes up there.
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Comrade Jesus
Location: Southlake, Texas
Gender: Male
| | | Re: Drop Ceilings?
<Reply # 2 on 9/30/2006 1:06 AM >
| | | | Well my thought is that if its possible to get to another room, then all you have to do is go up at the wall, pull your self over, take out the square on that side, then go to the other side of the room and repeat. Also, if you distributed your weight to multiple pipes, those could probably hold you.
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otonabee
   
Location: Peterborough/Bowmanville, Ontario,Canada/ Crypto urbano
Gender: Male
I'm not from here
| |  | Re: Drop Ceilings?
<Reply # 3 on 9/30/2006 1:14 AM >
| | | | I think the age of the building would be a factor. A drop down ceiling in a newer building such as one that i currently work in can provide access to locked rooms as we found out once when a set of keys were locked on the wrong side of the door.
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Comrade Jesus
Location: Southlake, Texas
Gender: Male
| | | Re: Drop Ceilings?
<Reply # 4 on 9/30/2006 1:16 AM >
| | | | Thanks, I've been wondering about this for a while, but have not had a chance to test it, im glad someone has.
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kjohnnytarr
Location: Columbia, Missouri
Gender: Male
Team Asbestos: CoMO
| | | Re: Drop Ceilings?
<Reply # 5 on 9/30/2006 1:20 AM >
| | | | I've done that before to get something from work on a weekend. You can go through the ceiling to bypass doors, but you can't just hop from room to room willy-nilly-like. You almost have to have two people:
Person A lifts Person B up to a ceiling tile right by the door. Person B lifts the tile into the ceiling and slides it away from the door. Person B climbs ontop of the wall right above the door, which doesn't go much higher than the ceiling. Person B may need a light. Person B then slides back a tile on the other side of the door (he may need something like a screwdriver to pry it up) and drops, then opens the door for Person A. Persons A and B can then lift each other again in order to replace the tiles. This last part is hard, because you have to make sure the insulation gets resituated, and that the tile sits square, and if you aren't careful the tiles can break at the corner or something if you force them. If you don't get all that right, it's a giveaway that you've been going through the ceiling.
The most important thing is to give yourself plenty of time for this, and DON'T BREAK THE TILES. I wouldn't want to bypass more than one door like that in a night, so consider using this trick to get into an office or maintainance closet where they keep keys to the other doors.
And obviously, this is B and E, so be smart. Like I said, I've only ever done it where I worked, and I wouldn't have had any problem talking to my boss about it if she asked. If your situation is any different, I'd advise giving it some serious thought.
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nightbird
 
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Location: Buffalo, NY
Gender: Female
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| | Re: Drop Ceilings?
<Reply # 6 on 9/30/2006 1:33 AM >
| | | | you've been watching the breakfast club too much.
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Comrade Jesus
Location: Southlake, Texas
Gender: Male
| | | Re: Drop Ceilings?
<Reply # 7 on 9/30/2006 1:35 AM >
| | | | I love The Breakfast Club, But i haven't seen it forever, I totally forgot about most of the stuff in that movie.
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blackhawk
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| | | Re: Drop Ceilings?
<Reply # 8 on 9/30/2006 7:03 AM >
| | | | You'll prolly be more successful watching a movie than playing ceiling rat. Also a great way to find asbestos, normally I don't worry or say much about it. The stuff is all around, and sticking your face in it and breathing hard is a bad idea.
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Pravus
Location: Chicago Area
Gender: Male
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| |  | | Re: Drop Ceilings?
<Reply # 9 on 9/30/2006 7:13 AM >
| | | | the few times we wanted to do something like that the wall extended up past the tiles to the actual ceiling giving us nothing.. so we had to get through doors in other ways...
Although if you wanted to support yourself and actually had room to play around with up there you could wear a harness and take the short quick snap things (short loop of webbing with two biners on it) and use two of them and kinda swing around on those alternating the biners kinda like monkey bars.. but thats going on the assumption that theres some kinda supports up there like I have seen in some..
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natxtron
Location: memphis
urbanesquelation
| |  | Re: Drop Ceilings?
<Reply # 10 on 9/30/2006 3:15 PM >
| | | | i have found that the only time a drop ceiling provides access is in buildings that were constructed with the drop ceiling. often times, older buildings have been retrofitted with drop ceilings to "modernize" the building, such as old schools. after the asbestos removal, when they take out the original ceiling tiles off of the twelve foot ceilings, they put up the fire safe drop ceilings. this type is never designed to hold any weight and accessing the drop ceiling is completely pointless. if the drop ceiling is concealing a large amount of pipes and wires, chances are there is little to no asbestos, since it was designed and constructed after the anti-asbestos regulations. but don't hold me to that. i'm sure there's always exceptions.
nonetheless, i would never trust any drop ceiling to hold more than a few pounds of weight. too bad. i always think about that scene in Aliens, when the buggers are zooming along the drop ceiling, past all the walls and defences... stupid humans.
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kjohnnytarr
Location: Columbia, Missouri
Gender: Male
Team Asbestos: CoMO
| | | Re: Drop Ceilings?
<Reply # 11 on 9/30/2006 3:35 PM >
| | | | Like I said though: the tiles won't support weight, but crouching on top of the wall works fine once you're up there.
It seemed like a good idea at the time... |
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Comrade Jesus
Location: Southlake, Texas
Gender: Male
| | | Re: Drop Ceilings?
<Reply # 12 on 9/30/2006 5:59 PM >
| | | | Well I know that there isn't any asbestos and im pretty sure that the building was built with the drop ceilings, rather than being fitted with them at a later time.
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Pleiades
Location: Halifax
Gender: Male
| | Re: Drop Ceilings?
<Reply # 13 on 9/30/2006 6:04 PM >
| | | | There was a burglary of a restaurant here where the thief did exactly what you guys are describing.
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blackhawk
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| | | Re: Drop Ceilings?
<Reply # 14 on 9/30/2006 7:43 PM >
| | | | Posted by Pleiades
There was a burglary of a restaurant here where the thief did exactly what you guys are describing.
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The same thought crossed my mind. That is how doing this would be viewed regardless of your reason. Exploring isn't worth felony charges. Technically it's a crummy idea for a number of reasons that will prove to be nothing but trouble.
Just when I thought I was out... they pulled me back in.
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HillbillyHorus
Location: Charlottesville Virginia
Gender: Male
Im in ur government, killin ur d00dz
| | | Re: Drop Ceilings?
<Reply # 15 on 9/30/2006 7:57 PM >
| | | | Posted by blackhawk
The same thought crossed my mind. That is how doing this would be viewed regardless of your reason. Exploring isn't worth felony charges. Technically it's a crummy idea for a number of reasons that will prove to be nothing but trouble.
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For once I agree with blackhawk 
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blackhawk
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| | | Re: Drop Ceilings?
<Reply # 16 on 9/30/2006 8:24 PM >
| | | | Posted by Horus
For once I agree with blackhawk
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Damn,that is rare. You must have done work up in dropped ceilings before too.
Just when I thought I was out... they pulled me back in.
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greywolf45
Location: U.S.A.
Gender: Male
Resident UER pain in the ass
| |  | | Re: Drop Ceilings?
<Reply # 17 on 10/1/2006 4:44 AM >
| | | | Often times the framework holding the drop ceiling tiles is not strong enough to support any amount of weight beyond that of the tiles themselves (learned that lesson the HARD way). Some are however. If you have any doubts as to whether the ceiling will hold your weight, don't do it.
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shellyl
Location: Lenoir NC
Gender: Female
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| | Re: Drop Ceilings?
<Reply # 18 on 10/1/2006 1:56 PM >
| | | | Had to giggle a bit about this one. I had to use a drop ceiling to get into my office at work. I threw the keys onto my desk and then shut the door. I was hoping to get back in before anyone saw me but I was not fast enough. Two of the cooks came around the corner as my behind was about to drop onto the desk. Skirt hiked up around my waist panties showing and all.
A mirage is not an optical illusion. It is a real phenomenon, and one can take photographs of it. The interpretation of the image, however, is up to the fantasy of the human mind.
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Reciprocity Failure
Location: Santa Barbara/Chicago
Gender: Male
See you on the dark side of the Moon
| | | Re: Drop Ceilings?
<Reply # 19 on 10/16/2006 7:08 AM >
| | | | I've dealt with this sort of thing before, running internet cables all throughout an office building. Let me tell you, if you don't have a MAJOR chunk of time to be doing this, don't bother. Usually the only safe way around is to follow to paths made by the tops of the walls below. In addition to that, there are tons of pipes/vents/wires that will block many of the available paths, or at the very least slow you down big time. To top it off, it's most likely going to be pitch black as well. Even with a headlamp to free up your hands, it is still very slow going. Throw in years of dust and the likely presence of asbestos, and you have yourself one hell of an unpleasant experience.
And all that doesn't address the safety issue, one miscalculation and you can very easily fall thru the ceiling. My brother, who was helping me run the cables, is a prime example of this. He fell thru the ceiling, taking out three large ceiling tiles in the process. In an extreme stroke of luck, he landed in a laying position squarely on a very plush couch in the VPs office. I still can't quite believe he got that lucky.
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