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 Explorer Zero
     
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< on 7/27/2006 10:57 PM >
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[last edit 7/28/2006 12:01 PM by Explorer Zero - edited 1 times]
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Jonsered
Location: Back in New Mexico where I belong
Gender: Male
Dressed for a scarecrow ball.........
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<Reply # 1 on 7/27/2006 10:59 PM >
| | | | Ah, damn it! Its a C-17 or C-19, I think its called a Nightingale. I'm going to take a wild ass guess and say The old Naval Air Station North of Dallas.
I have changed my personal exploring ethics code. From now on it will be: "Take only aimed shots, leave only hobo corpses." Copper scrappers, meth heads and homeless beware. The Jonsered cometh among you, bringing fear and dread.
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Duncantx
Location: Tulsa, OK
Gender: Male
| | Re: guess what this is and where I found it parked
<Reply # 2 on 7/28/2006 12:25 AM >
| | | | its a c-17 alright, but they still use the NAS in dallas, for helicopters and they designed that runway to accommodate a C-5 so they should put it to use.
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bpitcher
Location: worcester style
Gender: Male
| | Re: guess what this is and where I found it parked
<Reply # 3 on 7/28/2006 1:21 AM >
| | | | Not a c-17, it's a russian plane. The globemaster(c17) is stubbier and does not have any glass in the nose. Looks like an IL 76 to me.
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nohbdy
 
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 4 on 7/28/2006 1:48 AM >
| | | | this is a c17
guess were i found this one
ITS MINE!
[last edit 7/28/2006 1:48 AM by nohbdy - edited 1 times]
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Explorer Zero
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<Reply # 5 on 7/28/2006 11:58 AM >
| | | | Posted by bpitcher
Not a c-17, it's a russian plane. The globemaster(c17) is stubbier and does not have any glass in the nose. Looks like an IL 76 to me.
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It is indeed an Ilyushin 76 tanker
with no tail number
or any other identification
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maZe
  
Location: Montreal/Moncton/Ottawa
Gender: Female
"All the world's a stage and most of us are desperately unrehearsed" - Sean O'Casey
| |  | | Re: guess what this is and where I found it parked
<Reply # 6 on 7/28/2006 12:16 PM >
| | | | definitely Russian. The absence of an ID makes me think it's used for movies.
Another hint it's not a C17 (on top of the nose windows) is the shape of the top of the tail (the top stabilisers). Here's another shot of a il-76 :
il-76 are now being sold to Israel, Jordan, and India. But the biggest buyer of these babies is Israel. Best used to drop troops or materials. Or to fight forrest fires.
[last edit 7/28/2006 12:26 PM by maZe - edited 6 times]
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RevSM
Location: South Central Texas
| | | Re: guess what this is and where I found it parked
<Reply # 7 on 7/28/2006 2:51 PM >
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Must not be very heavy the way that light pole can hold it up like that!
But seriously, it looks like the plane has been identified but where is it?
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maZe
Location: Montreal/Moncton/Ottawa
Gender: Female
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| | | | Re: guess what this is and where I found it parked
<Reply # 8 on 7/28/2006 2:55 PM >
| | | | My guess is that it is at Denver Airport for testing. Denver is currently unofficially considering buying a few of those to use as water tankers for Forrest Fire.
Since there's no ID on the plane, I'd say there are testing them.
...Or it was used for a movie shoot.
[last edit 7/28/2006 2:56 PM by maZe - edited 2 times]
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DevilC
Location: Washington, District of Corruption
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| | | Re: guess what this is and where I found it parked
<Reply # 9 on 7/28/2006 4:03 PM >
| | | | * UNofficially is correct! The US Forrest Circus tested these in the past.
* The IL-76 purchase option is a very hot topic here in the US.
* I guess that there is just something UN-American about seeing Russian jets in our skies. That said, I have flown in them before - they seem pretty sturdy and utilitarian, as most ex-Commie Russian hardware is.
* The IL-76 is closest to the C-141 NOT the C-17. There is really little comparison. The C-17 is, by far, the most advanced Strategic Airlift frame on the planet (and the price per frame reveals that!!)
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maZe
Location: Montreal/Moncton/Ottawa
Gender: Female
"All the world's a stage and most of us are desperately unrehearsed" - Sean O'Casey
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<Reply # 10 on 7/28/2006 4:20 PM >
| | | | yeah, they are nice planes. Had the pleasure of flying in them while sitting in the cockpit. Nice plane.
Reminded me a bit of the CL215 and CL415 although no real comparison can be made, I know. Personally, I much prefer the IL to the CL.
Trust me I know how much of a hot topic it is. Part of my family is in the business of selling planes at int'l level... 
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Explorer Zero
| | | Re: guess what this is and where I found it parked
<Reply # 11 on 7/28/2006 7:08 PM >
| | | | heres what I know, its second hand info but I talked to a nearby employee that said its owned by a start up flight school that will be training F16 pilots
foreign country's F16 pilots
at a US airbase
and that a former Soviet tanker (maybe this one) is being fitted out to do refueling exercises
the 16s havent made it here yet but I'll try to get some pics when they do
more to come maybe some black helicopters too 
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Jonsered
Location: Back in New Mexico where I belong
Gender: Male
Dressed for a scarecrow ball.........
| | | | Re: guess what this is and where I found it parked
<Reply # 12 on 7/28/2006 7:10 PM >
| | | | Killer 2x.
We have Thais and Germans training here in New Mexico, and it adds a cool international flavor to my hillbilly state. The 16's could be anybody, although if they are going to practice refueling from IL-76s, I'm guessing India, or somebody in that part of the world.
Careful about how close you get 2x, you may get a ride in one fo the black choppers!
I have changed my personal exploring ethics code. From now on it will be: "Take only aimed shots, leave only hobo corpses." Copper scrappers, meth heads and homeless beware. The Jonsered cometh among you, bringing fear and dread.
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DevilC
Location: Washington, District of Corruption
Gender: Male
I serve as a blank screen on which people of vastly different political stripes project their views.
| | | Re: guess what this is and where I found it parked
<Reply # 13 on 7/28/2006 8:06 PM >
| | | | If it IS a tanker, then it is an IL-78 not a 76.
Nice find.
What state did you find this in? TX or NM?
It makes sense to train foreign pilots here. . . . we make the planes here and the techs and contractors are here so it will be way cheaper. Few countries have as much regulated airspace and no air-defense threat.
If that is the case the 78 is the most widely used refueler in the world, so why us a KC135 (which we are soon to replace) when they will never see one.
Don't worry about the black helicopters. . . . snap away unless the signs say otherwise.
Go us.
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maZe
Location: Montreal/Moncton/Ottawa
Gender: Female
"All the world's a stage and most of us are desperately unrehearsed" - Sean O'Casey
| | | | Re: guess what this is and where I found it parked
<Reply # 14 on 7/28/2006 10:15 PM >
| | | | Posted by Jonsered
I'm guessing India,
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Obviously it's Israel. States + Israel = best friend buddies
the USA have been selling planes,guns and weapons to Israel for the last hmmm at least 30 years. Israel has the 2nd largest military planes squad IN DA WORLD, after the USA (of course).
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Jonsered
Location: Back in New Mexico where I belong
Gender: Male
Dressed for a scarecrow ball.........
| | | | Re: guess what this is and where I found it parked
<Reply # 15 on 7/28/2006 10:23 PM >
| | | | Posted by maZe
Obviously it's Israel. States + Israel = best friend buddies
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Uh, MaZe, why would the US be selling Russian planes to Israel? Wouldn't the Russkies just sell them themselves? And the Israeli AF uses a compeltely different system of refueling their aircraft. Large and easy to kill tankers don't wrok so well when your whole country can be flown over in a few minutes.
[last edit 7/28/2006 10:24 PM by Jonsered - edited 1 times]
I have changed my personal exploring ethics code. From now on it will be: "Take only aimed shots, leave only hobo corpses." Copper scrappers, meth heads and homeless beware. The Jonsered cometh among you, bringing fear and dread.
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DevilC
Location: Washington, District of Corruption
Gender: Male
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| | | Re: guess what this is and where I found it parked
<Reply # 16 on 7/29/2006 1:41 AM >
| | | | This has nothing to do with UE BUT:
1) THE IAF is not the #2 world air force - not by a long shot. China has more ground attack aircraft alone than the entire IAF - so do India and Russia. The IAF may be 2nd best but it is far from 2nd biggest.
2) Please name ONE Former-USSR/Russian airframe the IAF operates. I cannot think of one. Looking at their AF is like looking at our own USAF. The Germans have had a notoriously difficult time integrating Western and Eastern air equipment. Bad idea all around.
3) Israel NEEDS the best air force in the region. They are in a daily fight for their lives - the barbarians are at the gates, literally! Thank God America still has the moral courage to stand with them and support them. Have you considered the alternative??
4) Remember, it was the FRENCH that gave Israel the bomb, not the US.
I am still enthralled by FSU aircraft parked in the US. Post more pics as they become available! Thanks.
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Duncantx
Location: Tulsa, OK
Gender: Male
| | Re: guess what this is and where I found it parked
<Reply # 17 on 7/29/2006 3:47 AM >
| | | | you never said where you saw it parked
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maZe
Location: Montreal/Moncton/Ottawa
Gender: Female
"All the world's a stage and most of us are desperately unrehearsed" - Sean O'Casey
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<Reply # 18 on 7/29/2006 3:56 AM >
| | | | Posted by DevilC
3) Israel NEEDS the best air force in the region. They are in a daily fight for their lives - the barbarians are at the gates, literally! Thank God America still has the moral courage to stand with them and support them. Have you considered the alternative??
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Wow. That's exactly like Iran saying "we NEED to be the strongest in this chicken-playing game". Israel doesn't NEED to be the strongest. Israel should have just been one country like any others.
Thank God they have America to give them weapons so they can kill innocent civilians, UN personel and all other people that have absolutely nothing to do with this shit. Moral Courage???? Are you kidding me?!!! At least if you would have said Thank God America still has the Economic interests to stand with them and support them I might have believed you.
Come one. Wake up. All this shit is about one thing : OIL and WEAPONS.
Who helped Saddam Hussein to gain power? Who helped Ben Laden for DECADES fight the Russians? Who sold weapons to Israel?
You think it's about morality? You've got it all wrong. It's about capitalism. It's about making money. It's about OIL and WEAPONS. You think Israel is all right and everybody else is wrong? You think killing HUNDREDS of civilians and UN personnel, destroying a country and making THOUSANDS of homeless is a fair response to 2 kidnapped soldiers? If you do, then let's put in perspective that the US response to 9-11 makes America look like the biggest sissy on the planet.
The alternative you ask? Well, with no weapons, they would hit each others with rocks - that does a lot less damage then a rocket launcher and tanks in my opinion.
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maZe
Location: Montreal/Moncton/Ottawa
Gender: Female
"All the world's a stage and most of us are desperately unrehearsed" - Sean O'Casey
| | | | Re: guess what this is and where I found it parked
<Reply # 19 on 7/29/2006 4:09 AM >
| | | | Posted by DevilC=
1) THE IAF is not the #2 world air force - not by a long shot. China has more ground attack aircraft alone than the entire IAF - so do India and Russia. The IAF may be 2nd best but it is far from 2nd biggest.
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IAF : over 900 registered combat airplanes capable of flying
Russia : about 300 combat airplanes capable of flying
India : (4th largest in the world) over 750 combat airplanes capable of flying
China : about 420 registered combat airplanes capable of flying ( + 35 helicopters)
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