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 Alias
   
Location: UK
Gender: Male
www.nicholas-ada ms.co.uk
 |  |  | A couple from the Weekend
< on 4/13/2006 5:08 PM >
|  | | | Two of my favorite pics from the weekend.
The Asylum within my head
Paint peeling to reveal a hidden past
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pirate3
Location: oakville, ontario
Gender: Female
| | | Re: A couple from the Weekend
<Reply # 1 on 4/14/2006 3:04 AM >
| | | | one makes me wonder wtf?
the second is wow
the interior seems a tad underexposed and yet its focus is the windows with overexposed highlights
perhaps merging two shots to correct for this may yield a finer photo?
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stowbari
Location: Northeast Ohio
Gender: Male
| | | Re: A couple from the Weekend
<Reply # 2 on 4/14/2006 3:20 AM >
| | | | Bracketing and blending would eliminate the overexposed highlights in the windows and allow the room to be brightened, but it would bring attention to the windows which seem rather cluttered. If I were to bracket and blend this shot, I'd probably add some blur to the windows.
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Glass
    
Location: Chicago
as one does
| | | Re: A couple from the Weekend
<Reply # 3 on 4/14/2006 7:20 AM >
| | | | The first one doesn't make sense to me. How can I critique something that isn't (EDIT: mostly) your work or UE related? Maybe a caption would enlighten me.
The second one is nice, but needs more highlight detail.
-Glass
[last edit 4/14/2006 7:25 AM by Glass - edited 1 times]
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Alias
Location: UK
Gender: Male
www.nicholas-ada ms.co.uk
| | | Re: A couple from the Weekend
<Reply # 4 on 4/14/2006 9:46 AM >
| | | | sorry what? if u look at the first one properly u will notice that I have held an x ray up to an asylum and taken the picture how is it not my work surely if u know anything about art/photography you would realise that u can use props to create art
[last edit 4/14/2006 10:14 AM by Alias - edited 1 times]
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pirate3
Location: oakville, ontario
Gender: Female
| | | Re: A couple from the Weekend
<Reply # 5 on 4/14/2006 2:14 PM >
| | | | ah yes, I guess we don't know anything about art
but my opinion is if you are going to use a prop you need to transcend its original form
so if you cropped out the lower half so all you could see is the building and the glow from the x-ray then that would be using the x-ray in interesting ways
but as of now you have just slapped an x-ray over a photo
but that's me, I don't know anything about art
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Glass
Location: Chicago
as one does
| | | Re: A couple from the Weekend
<Reply # 6 on 4/14/2006 9:04 PM >
| | | | Hey, here's an idea:
If you can't take the heat, stay out of the critique forum! I saw what you did and I still don't like it. Notice my edit: "Mostly" not your work, so how about you quit your attitude that you know more about art than your critics. Oh, and you'll get a lot better feedback if you spell out entire words and use sentences. Just a friendly little tip.
Glass
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pirate3
Location: oakville, ontario
Gender: Female
| | | Re: A couple from the Weekend
<Reply # 7 on 4/14/2006 10:47 PM >
| | | | this x-ray idea: certainly derivative but full of potential
it an odd thing that x-rays are popping up so frequently
I have been playing with taking x-rays and reversing them so the clear becomes black and the black becomes clear, enlarging them until there is alot of "noise" in the image, cutting them up and forming silk-screen repeat patterns
I find x-rays of deformities and surgical implants especially useful for this work
x-rays, layering, and collage is all very interesting
and combining your photos with found imagery is a very cool avenue
be careful with how you use that imagery and like I said before, try to make it transcend its original form
is the idea that you have UE on the mind?
try to make that more literal, try different photos and views
try the reverse:photos of heads or brains and drawings of UE adventures
don't be disheartened by a ho-hum response
use it, learn from it
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Alias
Location: UK
Gender: Male
www.nicholas-ada ms.co.uk
| | | Re: A couple from the Weekend
<Reply # 8 on 4/15/2006 12:09 AM >
| | | | I think that some people may think I used photoshop for the x ray pic and combined two pictures. I did not I had the x ray in the car I had found it at another asylum, before u go off on ur ethics rant the other x rays were in a corner burnt I have saved this one and intend to send it to the archives office. I took the photo of Lancaster Moor through the x ray to represent our troubles we were having with the Moor. This is a UE photo because if u look at my web site I have UE`d Lancaster Moor and am one of only 4 people ever to get in there.
as for not posting in full sentances I post on many forums and also am studying at university for a degree so spend my life writting full sentances so if I dont feel like typing a full word and use a small abriviation this is my choice u can obviously still understand it. Maybe u feel big and clever pointing peoples mistakes. I thought this was an exploring web site not a literature web site.
anyway rant over.
Alias
[last edit 4/15/2006 12:10 AM by Alias - edited 1 times]
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pirate3
Location: oakville, ontario
Gender: Female
| | | Re: A couple from the Weekend
<Reply # 9 on 4/15/2006 12:40 AM >
| | | | "This is a UE photo because if u look at my web site I have UE`d Lancaster Moor and am one of only 4 people ever to get in there."
I think if you are studying for a degree you should be able to recognize when a sentence defies the laws of logic.
its a UE photo because a website indicates you've been somewhere?
and because you are one of 4 to get in there?
its the image that should convery those things
it looks like a church steeple with a skull on top, what you need to do is make "the troubles we were having with the Moor" more obvious
your message is confusing as is your sentence structure and spelling
people that explore can also read and appreciate literature and well turned phrases
I find this well turned phrase relates somewhat to your image
" if the polished surfaces of conventional make-up and fashion can constitute a carapace to hold the horror of death and decay at bay, the inside of the body, with its connotations of mortality, are the flipside of that denial"
I am also studying for a degree and yet always manage the courtesy of typing in a way that is clear and direct
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Glass
Location: Chicago
as one does
| | | Re: A couple from the Weekend
<Reply # 10 on 4/15/2006 12:57 AM >
| | | | | I think that some people may think I used photoshop for the x ray pic and combined two pictures. I did not I had the x ray in the car I had found it at another asylum, before u go off on ur ethics rant the other x rays were in a corner burnt I have saved this one and intend to send it to the archives office. |
I knew it wasn't photoshop; PS would have looked a lot better. As far as ethics I've saved stuff too, so don't think UER is about to pounce on your for that ;).
| I took the photo of Lancaster Moor through the x ray to represent our troubles we were having with the Moor. This is a UE photo because if u look at my web site I have UE`d Lancaster Moor and am one of only 4 people ever to get in |
I understand what you mean by the photo, I just think it's bad execution. Wonderful so few people got in, it's just not obvious to me without a caption--which I think I said earlier would help.
| as for not posting in full sentances I post on many forums and also am studying at university for a degree so spend my life writting full sentances so if I dont feel like typing a full word and use a small abriviation this is my choice u can obviously still understand it. |
This is not like other forums, we like to type properly. I'm also a college student and in no way do I think that impairs my writing properly. It's not about understanding what you type as much as it's a matter aboutsounding like you give a care. When you type abbreviated sentences I feel like you don't give a shit, so why should I pay you the attention of critiquing your photos?
| Maybe u feel big and clever pointing peoples mistakes. I thought this was an exploring web site not a literature web site. |
Hope you're a little smarter now. As far as curtailing your poor english, that's something you need to learn on this forum: Writing skills count for a lot. Be coherent and polite and you'll get lots of good feedback.
-Glass
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octoberwitch
Location: Massachusetts
Gender: Female
| |  | | Re: A couple from the Weekend
<Reply # 11 on 4/17/2006 1:47 AM >
| | | | I like the idea of the first image but I can see why some people may not. I think it would look more dream like if you took it into photoshop now and added some contrast and fiddled around with it. But everyone views things differently so what I see in the image may be totally different then your idea when creating it.
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Jondoe_264
Location: Under . . .
Gender: Male
Yes! Sewers!
| | | Re: A couple from the Weekend
<Reply # 12 on 4/17/2006 5:40 PM >
| | | | Posted by Alias
This is a UE photo because if u look at my web site I have UE`d Lancaster Moor and am one of only 4 people ever to get in there.
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I think the idea behind the first picture is ok, but I don't consider it a UE picture. It's too contrived, you took an x-ray from one location into a further location with the view to taking a picture through it? The fact that you've explored the location doesn't automatically make every picture you took whilst exploring a UE picture. I could take a picture down my pants while exploring and I wouldn't say it was a UE picture. Also the fact that few people have explored the location is irrelevant to whether the picture is or is not a UE picture. That said, as a picture I think it could benefit from being cropped, losing all the outlying black areas. The buildings could be more defined/contrasty, as it stands the x-ray is more the focus of the image than the buildings and an even balance would probably work better.
The second picture, it's clearly a photogenic room, I took a similar picture at the same location. The problem as others have noted is the exposure, getting it correct for the windows underexposes the room, getting it correct for the room overexposes the windows. The answer is either bracketing and blending the correctly exposed areas of each shot or setting the exposure to somewhere in between. With my shot below I chose to get the exposure for the windows as close to correct as possible without the room being too dark, as a result the interior is a little underexposed but I think it's an ok compromise.
Posted by Alias
Maybe u feel big and clever pointing peoples mistakes. |
The words pot, kettle and black spring to mind.
JD
[last edit 4/17/2006 5:42 PM by Jondoe_264 - edited 1 times]
". . . for this purpose the plans of Mr.Bazalgette are most effective."
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turkey
Gender: Male
| | Re: A couple from the Weekend
<Reply # 13 on 4/20/2006 4:03 PM >
| | | | Personally I like both the photos alias...the second one could do with being a little more balanced but its still a cracking picture, I dont think I could do much better..
The first one is nice...I like the fact that its been thought about before it was taken..
I think the idea behind the first picture is ok, but I don't consider it a UE picture
I think this is a UE picture as it is something found in a UE location, put in front of something that he was about to explore...so surely it must be "UE" related...?
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Jondoe_264
Location: Under . . .
Gender: Male
Yes! Sewers!
| | | Re: A couple from the Weekend
<Reply # 14 on 4/20/2006 7:51 PM >
| | | | Posted by turkey
I think this is a UE picture as it is something found in a UE location, put in front of something that he was about to explore...so surely it must be "UE" related...?
turk ;)
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Hey Turkey,
I think it's possible for a picture to be UE related but not be an exploration picture. Sure the subject is UE related, but taking an x-ray from one location to another then taking a picture through doesn't make it an exploration picture. If it was a straight up pic of the exterior prior to going in or looking around then it's a picture taken while exploring, of what you're exploring, simple. But the x-ray thing, which as an idea is fine, is what disqualifies it as an exploration picture in my opinion. It's too contrived for that, it's not stumbled upon, discovered, it wasn't hanging on a window in a room, it was in the boot of a car and someone thought "Hey! That'd make a cool picture if I held that up to there". Taking medical props from one derelict hospital, to another from where they didn't originate to use in photos just doesn't sound like exploration to me. Do you see what I mean?
Its subject is UE related but it's not an exploration picture.
Cheers,
JD
". . . for this purpose the plans of Mr.Bazalgette are most effective."
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Urban Pirate
Location: Salt Lake City
Gender: Male
| | Re: A couple from the Weekend
<Reply # 15 on 4/21/2006 12:00 AM >
| | | | The first one does nothing for me, it is just too hard to tell what is going on. The second is decent, but it runs into the problems Jondoe_264 pointed out.
Despite your apparent opposition to the rules of spelling and grammar, you really would be wise to put some effort into the things you write. Just because it works for you elsewhere doesn't mean it will work here. Honestly, spend the extra two minutes it would take to fix your grammar and you will get much better replies.
If you want others to care, you have to care to begin with.
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turkey
Gender: Male
| | Re: A couple from the Weekend
<Reply # 16 on 4/21/2006 4:20 PM >
| | | | To be fair pirate, the fact that alias's post was completely legible points out to me that you either feel the need to point at others weaknesses, or you simply have far to much time on your hands to be bothered with such things...this is a photography critique forum, it would be nice for it to be kept as that, and not an English lesson.
This is not directed at purely you, it is aimed at all those who choose to be less than friendly when its not called for!
turk ;)
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Urban Pirate
Location: Salt Lake City
Gender: Male
| | Re: A couple from the Weekend
<Reply # 17 on 4/21/2006 5:55 PM >
| | | | Point taken. The only reason I brought it up was because a fight had already broken out about it. It is up to Alias as to how he chooses to write on the forum, I'm just trying to suggest a way to put more emphasis on the photos he posts than the writing that accompanies them.
My apologies for anything rude I may have said.
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kowalski
| | Re: A couple from the Weekend
<Reply # 18 on 4/21/2006 6:07 PM >
| | | | Actually, I think the critique is completely valid. If people can't be bothered to defend their work with full sentences and legitimate language (no 'u's and other lazyisms), they shouldn't be posting here.
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Glass
Location: Chicago
as one does
| | | Re: A couple from the Weekend
<Reply # 19 on 4/21/2006 6:13 PM >
| | | | I don't apologize.
The photos aren't very good for reasons already stated: the first is a total miss because it's practically impossible to distinguish the subject and the second is blurry, crooked, misexposed and "done".
It's stupid this has turned into such an argument, for god's sake if you can't take criticism please don't post. Let's all move on.
LET THIS THREAD DIE!
-Glass
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