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1 2 3 4   UER Forum > Archived UE Main > Why I must say Goodbye for now! (Viewed 3780 times) Walking Talking Poison  Location: Big Island, Hawaii Gender: Female  |  |  Why I must say Goodbye for now! < on 2/26/2006 3:52 PM >   Friends, Acquaintances, and Everyone else, I will start off with an apology. I know I have been neglecting my “duties” as of late, posting, participating, and much more. I thought I would post/write this from my own mouth, rather than have you hear it passed on later. I recently was a resident of the Madison County Jail. My husband and I were called out onto the porch, told we had warrants out on each of us, and that we had better find someone to watch our children quickly. Confused, we inquired about the charges for the warrant. The charge on each of us is called “compulsory attendance”. In short, if your child or children, misses one too many days at school, warrants are issued, and you get arrested and get to be a guest of the county jail for a bit. Now to be fair here, we had been warned previously about this issue. My son had missed 5 days of school and an officer came to the house to talk to us. He informed us that the problem wasn’t attendance, but the fact that we hadn’t called the school each time. After a nice talk with this officer both my husband and I agreed to call the school each time my son was going to be absent. He was happy with that and thanked us for being cooperative. What the hell happened from there, I have no idea? I can tell you my son and everyone else in this house had a horrible flu virus and I believe he missed 6 school days due to that. I called on the first Monday he missed and told the school not to expect him there all week due to us all vomiting and high fevers. The person on the phone thanked me for calling and said she would make a note of it. I called the following Monday saying he was still not fully well, but I expected him to be back the next day. There didn’t seem to be any problem. Since that time, he missed one other day, due to him not sleeping at all because his 2 yr old brother was teething and screaming and keeping him up all night. Also, he was about 5 minutes tardy 2 times because my husband walked him to school on his week of vacation, and he is a heavy sleeper and missed alarm clocks going off. YES, my son has missed more than 10 days of school. Why? 6 days was due to the flu, at least 2 were because of a lice outbreak (which by the way if you find any bugaboos in their hair, you’re not ALLOWED to send them to school), 1 was because he was afraid of a bully on the bus. I cannot tell you what the others were, I don’t remember. I do not remember my parents keeping a catalog of days I stayed home and thus never felt the need to do so either. As a matter of fact, I remember my parents keeping me home for a few NON sick reasons! Those are some of the best memories I have as a matter of fact. Sometimes it was after a big snow and they got together with their other friends to take us sledding, sometimes it was a family picnic or fishing. As far as I was and still AM concerned, those were all very good reasons for missing school. Getting back to the point of the story here… My husband and I were given the option to call someone or put our children in custody of Child Protective Services. Being as most of our friends had moved away from this area, we only had one choice, our landlord. He is an amazingly compassionate person and agreed to watch our children immediately. The officers informed us that there would be a $300 bond on each of us, and if we brought it with us, we would be out in a couple of hours. So I grabbed the money for each of us. So now lets get down to the nitty gritty. The officers said they had warrants but could not produce any. They said, “That’s not the way it’s done now, we don’t get copies.” They did however have a judge’s name and a cause number. My landlord, god love him, said he wanted to see the warrants themselves, but when the officers started getting agitated, I started pacing and worrying that he was making things worse. He took my cue and let the issue go. From there we were led to their SUV which was parked down the block. (I find this dumb just because we had 3 little kids in the house, did they think we were going to try to escape out a window with our kids in tow or something?) They then handcuffed us but read us NO Miranda rights. We were then taken to the county jail, processed, fingerprinted, mug shots, etcetera. I told the female officer processing me that I had brought the money for bond and she somewhat shrugged it off. We were then thrown into what are commonly known as “drunk tanks”. 6’ by 12’ cells with concrete floors, and a steel bench that’s not so much a bench but a lump of steel on the floor. I’m assuming they put them there so they cannot be sued by some drunk or high asshole that claims to be injured by falling off of it. After a while in the tank, some officer came in to read the charges against me again, I’m not sure why, still no Miranda’s. He named my charge over again and then left. In the cell with me was a woman that looked to be about 7 months pregnant. She made a comment to me that they were sure making the rounds tonight. I just looked at her. She then told me that she was there for the same reason I was, only it was a completely different situation. She had a 13 year old son that fell in with the wrong crowd. He had been skipping school for some time. She had done everything she could with him, within the law. She of course couldn’t spank or beat his butt, because that’s against the law. She couldn’t kick him out, that’s against the law also. She did the best she could, taking him to the bus everyday and making damn sure his butt got on it. The problem was between the school bus and the school doors. He didn’t seem to make it in between the two. While his other classmates were walking into the school doors, he was walking back home. And STILL, this is all her fault, and she is responsible, and therefore arrested and facing time in jail. This blew my mind, how is it all on her and not partially the schools fault? Yet that same school called her in and had a warrant put out on her. In the mean time, while all this is sinking in, I watch 3 hours pass by on the clock. I knock on the soundproof glass and ask how much longer I have got. An officer tells me about 5 to 10 minutes. An HOUR later, he lets me out and asks if I need to make a phone call. I say no, I want to go home, and that I bonded out hours ago. He asks the female that processed me if I bonded out, she says no, I haven’t contacted the judge. I was confused, noticeably. The officer then informed me that it didn’t matter if I had money or not, if they didn’t talk to the judge, I wasn’t going anywhere. Now my mind is reeling. I told my landlord he’d be stuck with my kids for a couple hours, and we’re already 4 hours into this. I try to explain my situation to the officers, but it doesn’t matter, I am standing in my socks on a concrete cell floor and just another piece of shit sub-human. Thankfully a nurse overheard my conversation and told me during my physical that if I had someone come in and sign for me, I would not have to wait as long. After another hour, I finally got to make a phone call. I called home and asked my landlord if he would come sign my bond. He said yes, he would sign for both of us. This may sound like nothing to you all, but I want to explain, by signing that piece of paper, if either my husband or I flee, he is responsible for our combined $6000 fine. So…..hours and hours later we are still trying to figure out exactly what happened here. We did everything we were supposed to do and still got arrested. This isn’t the end either. If we lose in court were looking at $6000 fines plus court costs. It wasn’t enough being thrown in a cell for hours and having to deal with someone who just got thrown in there for stabbing another woman in the eye. (A story for a different day) But now they are going to milk every penny out of us they can in every way they can. This may sound overly dramatic, but I have been to court here. The judges like to put 18 year old kids away for 1 year for having a joint in their car. They like to put people away for non payment of medical bills, I still don’t understand that one, and wouldn’t that be debtor’s prison? The long and the short of it is, I may be going away for a while. I’m not sure what I’m going to do about any of this, except fight it tooth and nail. And then move on to fight the law itself. The main point though is this, if I commit any sort of crime while on bond, my landlord is responsible for every penny of the fines and court costs. So I am temporarily UE retired. I wont risk putting someone elses money on the line. Im not sure I can post and read here much, as its just too tempting! I wish you all continued fantastic adventures!!!!!!! Much Love! WTP <.·´¯`·.WªLkïng¯|¯ªLkïngPoïsØN ¸.·´¯`·.¸> -MisfitStyle-   |  Re: Why I must say Goodbye for now! <Reply # 1 on 2/26/2006 4:00 PM >   It's unfortunate to hear about your situation. I really do hope you can get everything sorted out. You will be missed, but you have to do what is best for your family and for you. You will have the support of everyone here, I'm sure. "I feel like I just got in a battle of wits with some kid in a helmet I found licking a window." Need help? Please use the Contact a Mod forum — I'm slow to see PMs. nostra-YOUPPI!  Umpire Location: Shahre:'on Kaybec Bonsoir et cest partie  |  Re: Why I must say Goodbye for now! <Reply # 2 on 2/26/2006 4:01 PM >   i second that, do everything you can to keep that family together, and hopefully move on and be able to stick it to the man, this is just over the top! Montreal Expos 1969-2004 Forever Proud Lets Keep The Dream Alive Charlie_Dunver  Location: Montreal Gender: Male  |  |  Re: Why I must say Goodbye for now! <Reply # 3 on 2/26/2006 4:32 PM >   Sounds like some zero tolerance program gone Nazi even if that seems redundant. So let s get the basic equation up, kids missing school = throw parents in jail No questions asked! It is indeed strange that a country that has such a politically dominant "bible belt" would veer on a course that takes it's "family values" discourse to a level that makes the whole notion of "family" completely unattractive. Perhaps this is what happens when lawyers are running the show--- when everyone is either suing someone or being sued the ol till just keeps on getting fatter, and fatter, and fatter..... I truly hope there is something good that comes out of this for you! CD http://neath.wordpress.com CowboyPenner  Location: Durham Region or anywhere that I might end up while travelling Gender: Male URBEXMobile  |  |  Re: Why I must say Goodbye for now! <Reply # 4 on 2/26/2006 5:03 PM >   WTF is this world coming too? I've never heard of a parent being put in jail 'cause their kid was truant for an illegitimate or legitimate reason. The fact that they never read you your miranda rights means you might be able to get off on a technicality. Good Luck. Axle  Location: Milton, ON Gender: Male Sieg oder Tod  |  Re: Why I must say Goodbye for now! <Reply # 5 on 2/26/2006 5:18 PM >   wow...um, I'm sorry to hear about your situation. My prayers will be with you and your family. Celer at Audax Para la Victoria Siempre Alemanes! MikeB  Location: Boston Gender: Male Don't get caught.  |  |  Re: Why I must say Goodbye for now! <Reply # 6 on 2/26/2006 5:21 PM >   WTP, best of luck in court. Your lanlord is very nice for them to do that and its better have the kids there than with strangers. Good luck! Ninjako  Location: Winnipeg Gender: Male I Wonder What's In Here  |  Re: Why I must say Goodbye for now! <Reply # 7 on 2/26/2006 5:27 PM >   I'm sorry to hear about your situation. Law in the USA is out of control. I wish you and your family the best of luck. res_novae  Location: NoVA Gender: Male  |  |  Re: Why I must say Goodbye for now! <Reply # 8 on 2/26/2006 5:48 PM >   Good luck with the court case! It's rough, but I've never heard of something like this happening. My brother skipped school constantly, yet all that happened was he was put in an alternative school, where an administrator walked him (and the other students) from the bus to the classroom. I have never heard of such a stupid law. I hope you get off without problem, (which should happen due to the lack of said Miranda rights.) lexiphoto  Location: Denver, Colorado Gender: Female UE Den Mother  |  |  |  |  Re: Why I must say Goodbye for now! <Reply # 9 on 2/26/2006 6:35 PM >   I think home schooling is a good option to look into... I'm terribly sorry. Nothing Satisfies Like Beef! mayhem154  Location: New Orleans Gender: Male Hello...  |  Re: Why I must say Goodbye for now! <Reply # 10 on 2/26/2006 7:04 PM >   I've never heard of such a thing, especially the medical bill fiasco. I would seriously consider consulting an attorney. Best wishes... fedge  Location: Gaud Corners, Ontario, Canada Gender: Male you blight up my life™®  |  |  Re: Why I must say Goodbye for now! <Reply # 11 on 2/26/2006 9:32 PM >   Posted by mayhem154 I've never heard of such a thing, especially the medical bill fiasco. I would seriously consider consulting an attorney. Best wishes... Yes - with no rights read to you and no warrant furnished directly to you - you should rally the troops, get a lawyer and not let this rest. I definitely had to check your profile, my calendar and my watch just to make sure you weren't located in 1940 Poland. What a fricken shame. That is not how to treat people. 18-odd Years Of UER-ing! David E  Location: San Francisco, CA Gender: Male Do not believe everything you see on TV.  |  |  Re: Why I must say Goodbye for now! <Reply # 12 on 2/26/2006 10:18 PM >   Unfortunately, in California, there is the same law. But I have yet to hear of it being applied. Usually they fine the parents. That really sucks, WTP, I wish you the best of luck in all this and hope/prays it turns out well for you. David [last edit 2/26/2006 10:18 PM by David E - edited 1 times] FREE THE UER 6! DOWN WITH UER LACKEYS! And to the mod that changed my sig, blow me! tron_2.0  Location: Ohio Gender: Male  |  |  |  Re: Why I must say Goodbye for now! <Reply # 13 on 2/26/2006 10:33 PM >   so sorry to hear that. but a little heads up, they dont have to read you your rights unless they are going to interrogate you about your crime. but either way, it sucks. [last edit 2/26/2006 10:34 PM by tron_2.0 - edited 1 times] [quote][i]Posted by yokes[/i] I find your lack of coziness.... disturbing. [/quote] M. Fuzzy  Location: GTA Gender: Male Machine Gun Bunnies!  |  Re: Why I must say Goodbye for now! <Reply # 14 on 2/26/2006 11:31 PM >   I generally dislike most administrative processes as they can be as screwed up as you said (things not happening as police say, no one telling you what you should do in order to do something, all the red tape, the corruption, the BS) Best of luck, life's a real b*tch sometimes. Keep it fuzzy. Gazoo  Location: Barrie, ON  |  |  Re: Why I must say Goodbye for now! <Reply # 15 on 2/26/2006 11:47 PM >   Holly smokes what the heck is wrong with that legal system, no rights read and putting parents in jail for kids missing school? Wow if you can I would strongly recommend getting a lawyer and suing the crap out of them. Best of luck to you and your family! I want to die while asleep like my grandfather, not screaming in terror like the passengers in his car. mikeisbeast  Location: Los angeles,CA Gender: Male  |  |  |  Re: Why I must say Goodbye for now! <Reply # 16 on 2/26/2006 11:55 PM >   wow thats some serious bs, best of luck with happens done the road Blue90  Location: TN Shiny.  |  Re: Why I must say Goodbye for now! <Reply # 17 on 2/27/2006 12:12 AM >   good luck, WTP, sock it to 'em- you'll be in my prayers. This is the way the world ends. WingedNatalina  Gender: Female S(ue)/P(ie)  |  |  |  Re: Why I must say Goodbye for now! <Reply # 18 on 2/27/2006 12:19 AM >   Wow. That's just.. ridiculous. I hope everything works out for you. My family had to deal with the law a few years back for some random stuff. Thank god the cops thought I was 18 at the time (I was still just 17) otherwise we'd have been gone... Music is a moral law. It gives soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination, and charm and gaiety to life and to everything. Walking Talking Poison  Location: Big Island, Hawaii Gender: Female  |  |  Re: Why I must say Goodbye for now! <Reply # 19 on 2/27/2006 1:36 AM >   Thanks for all the support guys, I do appreciate it. Unfortunately after spending all day looking up the laws, I dont think this is going to be a fun fight. They can, at their discretion, arrest you for ONE absence if they want to. Also every case I find where this issue was fought, it was lost. Not to mention, each count is punishable by both $1000 fine and 1 year in prison. My husband and I both have 3 counts so we are facing 3 years each. 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