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 desmet
   
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.
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< on 2/3/2006 2:31 PM >
|  | | | Back in the day I used to do a lot of surreal type stuff. Night shots using the flash to highlight myself in the frame, double and triple exposures in the camera, etc. Figured I'd give it a shot again. I'm not 100% on this, but I'd like to hear what people think. I could go into my whole bullshit story of what this photo is supposed to be about, but I think it's pretty straightforward.
TIA
"Delusion?"
[last edit 2/3/2006 2:31 PM by desmet - edited 1 times]
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dev
 
Passed away September 23rd, 2006.
| | Re: Surreal
<Reply # 1 on 2/3/2006 3:08 PM >
| | | | snap, i thought it was all about METALLICA!
(excellent shot, by the way.)
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desmet
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.
| | | | Re: Surreal
<Reply # 3 on 2/3/2006 4:56 PM >
| | | | Posted by stoop_master
Was the bluring done in photoshop or "in Camera" ???
stoop
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Photoshop. Radial blur.
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desmet
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.
| | | | Re: Surreal
<Reply # 4 on 2/3/2006 4:57 PM >
| | | | Posted by dev
snap, i thought it was all about METALLICA!
(excellent shot, by the way.)
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Hehe...thanks! 
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stoop_master
Location: south uk
Gender: Male
| | | Re: Surreal
<Reply # 5 on 2/3/2006 6:38 PM >
| | | | Posted by desmet
Photoshop. Radial blur.
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If you had done it in camera - then I would really have been impressed. Neat pic still
stoop
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desmet
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.
| | | | Re: Surreal
<Reply # 6 on 2/3/2006 7:29 PM >
| | | | Posted by stoop_master
If you had done it in camera - then I would really have been impressed. Neat pic still
stoop
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Haha, thanks...I think...
I'm a big in camera guy myself. Back in the day I was really into double and triple exposures and used to do it all in the camera....never ever the darkroom. Now my digital doesn't even give me the option of doing it in camera...which is a major bummer.
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desmet
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.
| | | | Re: Surreal
<Reply # 8 on 2/3/2006 9:22 PM >
| | | | Posted by Zorak
lens baby gives the same effect...in camera;)
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Yea, kinda, for $150.
Thought about getting one of those, then I saw the price.
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Zorak
Gender: Male
| | Re: Surreal
<Reply # 9 on 2/3/2006 10:21 PM >
| | | | I guess 150 seems cheap for camera stuff to me. You can get the 2.8 for about $100. So much fun, never the same exposure twice. My lensbaby is more fun than any other piece of gear I own.
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desmet
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.
| | | | Re: Surreal
<Reply # 11 on 2/3/2006 10:43 PM >
| | | | Posted by Zorak
I do enjoy the shot very much though, I dont mean to be critical, just my .02.
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Thanks!
I hear you that it's not that expensive. If I were to total up the amount of money I had put into camera gear since I bought my 20d and started photographing again last March....well let's just say I'm not going to be doing that.
You're probably right though. Maybe I just have to get going on surreal stuff again before I'll be convinced that I'll get my money's worth out of it.
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Epiphany
Location: RI
Gender: Female
| | Re: Surreal
<Reply # 12 on 2/4/2006 2:00 AM >
|  | | | Very Nice! It makes me feel like I'm standing in that room & just taken far too many drugs.
No-one cares about that fucking pretty face you have. It means nothing much in this life.
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Kelwyn
Location: DC Metro area
Gender: Male
Jackass of all trades.
| | | Re: Surreal
<Reply # 13 on 2/4/2006 4:09 AM >
| | | | Nicely done. I'm a fan of the saturation trick you pulled, too.
My biggest question is what you intended the focus of the shot to be. Right now the radial blur really pulls our attention to the balcony. Why this isn't a bad thing (the overall composition is very good), I'm wondering if the photo would have been better served with the center of the radial being at some empty chairs, or some other object.
[edit] After looking again, I see that the chairs are pretty central, but they are still picking up a little of the blur. The also don't seem to pop quite as much as they could, in my opinion, so if they were intended to be the focal point, you may want to look at some creative dodging and burning to give them some oomph.
I think what I'm saying is that without the blur, my eyes would travel the whole photo and take in the entire scene. With the blur, I expect there to be an Object of Significance as the focus, and my brain keeps looking at the center and not finding it.
As for the effect itself, I love it. I'd be interested to see it off center, either in this or another photo, just to see how it makes my eye move around the picture.
Keep it up and post more.
- Kel
[edited after looking a little more closely, paragraph added above]
[last edit 2/4/2006 4:12 AM by Kelwyn - edited 1 times]
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desmet
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.
| | | | Re: Surreal
<Reply # 14 on 2/4/2006 5:34 AM >
| | | | Posted by Kelwyn
Nicely done. I'm a fan of the saturation trick you pulled, too.
[snip]
[edited after looking a little more closely, paragraph added above]
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Thank you! Great thoughts.
You're right...the picture isn't really centered on anything of particular interest. I was kind of attracted to the detail on the balcony and the radial blur center setting thing isn't that precise so I dropped it there. I kind of didn't want there to be a really strong or defined subject, I was kind of going for the feeling Epiphany described. I was fucking with the curves forever trying to get the right amount of detail in the chairs, and then blew most of it away in the end.
Thanks for the great critique, though. All of this is stuff I need to think more about next time. I might have to mess with this one some more too actually. I wonder if I could have used more blur if I had a stronger subject....HMM!
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Kelwyn
Location: DC Metro area
Gender: Male
Jackass of all trades.
| | | Re: Surreal
<Reply # 15 on 2/4/2006 8:16 PM >
| | | | I might have to mess with this one some more too actually. I wonder if I could have used more blur if I had a stronger subject....HMM!
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Actually, I really like the amount of blur you used... enough to let us know that what is blurry isn't as important (you can tell because our eye is till attracted to the sharpness in the center), but you can still see details like the lettering in the graf.
Try using the same image, but see if you can drop the center of the blur on the window on the far right. I think it would give you a sense of reality outside leaking in.
- Kel
"I worry that Jesus drinks himself to sleep when he hears me talk like this."
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Shai Hulud
Location: Evansville IN
Gender: Male
Shai, Team Phantom
| | Re: Surreal
<Reply # 16 on 5/22/2006 6:49 AM >
| | | | I like this a lot, but it seems like it would have been a good picture without the motion as well.
Me: Why is there snow on her car? ... Wait a minute, that isn't snow at all!
MutantMandias: Nothin' gets past you, man. Nothin'.
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lasthourstand
Location: Syracuse, NY
Gender: Male
You've got head pigeons!
| | | | Re: Surreal
<Reply # 17 on 5/31/2006 3:14 AM >
| | | | Not a big fan of the lens baby. It's still got nothing on a nice 4x5 View Camera. Cool shot, really like the toning.
Today is your way out... |
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dev
Passed away September 23rd, 2006.
| | Re: Surreal
<Reply # 18 on 5/31/2006 7:13 AM >
| | | | Posted by lasthourstand
Not a big fan of the lens baby. It's still got nothing on a nice 4x5 View Camera. Cool shot, really like the toning.
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Posted by desmet
Photoshop. Radial blur.
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lasthourstand
Location: Syracuse, NY
Gender: Male
You've got head pigeons!
| | | | Re: Surreal
<Reply # 19 on 5/31/2006 12:33 PM >
| | | | I know he used photoshop, I probably should of quoted. I responding to something farther up on the page.
[last edit 5/31/2006 12:33 PM by lasthourstand - edited 1 times]
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