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Location: Hamilton
Gender: Male
weird for sound
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<Reply # 20 on 1/5/2006 12:47 AM >
|  | | | Three's pretty sexy. So's five.
The universe may be as grand as they say
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dsankt
Location: live and in the fresh
| |  | | Re: *hands you four prints, leans back and sips his drink*
<Reply # 21 on 1/5/2006 12:51 PM >
| | | | w0rd stoked to see drain photos taken more seriously than the harsh blast of on-camera flash!
Disclaimer: I have been accepted into the cabal of 6x6 mysticisms, so see the world in squares.
#1 I feel there is too much negative space top and bottom, particularly the top. The shadow detail in the waterflow is nice, but I agree with another poster to perhaps bring the light further towards the camera if shooting wide.
Actually this seems like a good opportunity to break out the telephoto, I think a longer focal length would have been an interesting break from the overwide style so common. I really like the mossy greeniness though!
#2 I think you could have done this better. The arch across the top right from the foreground tunnel is a strong line, I can imagine it played up or more prominent. Is there a small waterfall in the middle of shot? A bit of lighting at the rim, or perhaps on the downstream side of it would up the contrast. I don't think colour does anything for this image, I can see it in grainy black and white in my head  I yearn for texture, or contrast or shape, something to interest me. I'm just not seeing it 
I sympathise with your feelings of triumph, and emotional satisfaction as I believe you were the first people to explore and photograph this place. It's tough sometimes, you have so much attachment to the place, the difficulties you overcame and the challenges in creating your photos; but noone else has all the same memories and feelings to attach to the image. I've some photos I'm super happy about, but more because I know the trouble I went to in getting them. I think about the story surrounding the image, not so much the image itself. Anyone else who views them just sees the result, without knowing its history.
To 99% of people the end result is what they see and what they interpret. The photo is the whole story, BAM thats it. The boasting about escapades, storytelling and enjoying how hardcore the shots were to take is for us grumpy old drainers like you, me and Siologen (i wuv u siolo!) around the campfire Good to see you're amused by it all!
dsankt
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stoop_master
Location: south uk
Gender: Male
| | | Re: *hands you four prints, leans back and sips his drink*
<Reply # 22 on 1/5/2006 5:09 PM >
| | | | It's nice to see digital shots taken in the right aspect ratio for a change. I hate 4:3 images.
I love the pics although i might have framed it a little tighter on both, and played whith the white balance a bit to liven up the Uber Light a bit.
A great find, well done
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kowalski
 
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<Reply # 23 on 1/5/2006 5:38 PM >
| | | | Posted by stoop_master
It's nice to see digital shots taken in the right aspect ratio for a change. I hate 4:3 images. |
As do I, as do I. In fact, I was thinking just this morning about making an ass of myself in the main Photography forum by making a thread about how ugly NTSC dimensions are and that it's time everyone trying to take anything serious with a compact digital started cropping their sides into 3:2. It's what I do now with any of the older photos I have that come up for reprocessing and happen to have been taken on the old s30.
That said, I don't really enjoy the crops you've done. I appreciate you trying, but I really do prefer the wider, deeper perspective on the originals.
Posted by dsankt
Actually this seems like a good opportunity to break out the telephoto, I think a longer focal length would have been an interesting break from the overwide style so common.
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Haha, and it's funny, because if someone had ever asked me if I could see many uses for a long lens in a drain, I would have answered "not really, but I'm sure dsankt would use one." The discussion is moot however, since I don't have one. I'll keep it in mind, however, for when draining becomes an extreme sport and all those magazines and stuff are paying us all big bucks to shoot da supastars in da big draynes. Thanks.
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Jester
Location: Vancouver,B.C. Canada
Gender: Male
Always just out of sight...
| | | Re: *hands you four prints, leans back and sips his drink*
<Reply # 24 on 1/5/2006 6:03 PM >
|  | | | Personally I don't think the first 2 are your best drain photos at all. In general, you (and Reduxzero) take drain photos that I'm in awe of. These ones, well, not so much, though I do find them cool.
Picture 3 to me, is very powerful, how you captured the enormity and complexity of the site in that picture.
Picture 4 I like a lot as well. I love the colors of everything, how they came through as they did. The Fire extinguisher is like a hidden gift, when you notice it, it changes the view of the entire photo.
Draining still sucks though...
It requires wisdom to understand wisdom: the music is nothing if the audience is deaf. |
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localloser
Location: Richardson, tx
Gender: Female
| |  | | | Re: *hands you four prints, leans back and sips his drink*
<Reply # 25 on 1/5/2006 7:29 PM >
| | | | I absolutly love first and third, they are so beautiful. I think you did an amazing job. I love the angles in which they were captured.
jester love |
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siologen
Location: Melbourne, Australia.
I Go Where The Drains Are
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<Reply # 26 on 1/5/2006 8:10 PM >
| | | | Taking the copout route here.
If theres a drain in the photo then its a good photo.
And props to all who do drain photography.
Lol.
S///
Big Drayyynes!
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EatsTooMuchJam
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Gender: Male
Squirty "Stickybuns" von Cherrypants
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<Reply # 27 on 1/5/2006 8:52 PM >
| | | | Posted by kowalski
As do I, as do I. In fact, I was thinking just this morning about making an ass of myself in the main Photography forum by making a thread about how ugly NTSC dimensions are and that it's time everyone trying to take anything serious with a compact digital started cropping their sides into 3:2. It's what I do now with any of the older photos I have that come up for reprocessing and happen to have been taken on the old s30.
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There is no ideal ratio, really. It all depends on what kind of prints you want to make. To print to 8x10, a ratio of 4:5 is ideal so a 4x5 camera or a 6x7 medium format camera are ideal as 6:7 comes very close to 4x5 after subtracting a few mm here and there for the writing on the edges of the film. On the other hand if you're printing to 4x6 or 8x12 then the 2:3 ratio is nice which would include 35mm or 6x9cm. On the other hand, there are also film formats in the (close to) 3:4 category including 6x4.5cm and 6x8cm. I'm guessing there are print sizes friendly to those formats as well, but I'm too lazy to think of them right now.
"The large print giveth and the small print taketh away."
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yokes
Location: Toronto
Gender: Male
I aim to misbehave
| | | | Re: *hands you four prints, leans back and sips his drink*
<Reply # 28 on 1/5/2006 9:13 PM >
| | | | Don't forget 1:1 medium format.
"Great architecture has only two natural enemies: water and stupid men." - Richard Nickel |
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kowalski
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<Reply # 29 on 1/5/2006 9:41 PM >
| | | | Yes, if you're printing to physical media (though I generally dislike the physical dimensions of 8x10). But 4x6 is the standard that comes closest to the golden mean (1:1.618).
Floating on a broader field, as photos do on our computer screens, I really think the 2:3 ratio looks prettiest.
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followthewhiterabbit
Location: Lower Main land
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 31 on 1/6/2006 10:27 AM >
| | | | You can enjoy your drink. Its well deserved. I wish one day i have the talent to produce 4 shots as nice as these.
Pic 1 and 2, pic one is my preference, the red color gives it an organic almost vein/artery type feel to me. perhaps bleeding dry would be a good title. Both of them make me think of Plato's allegory in the cave where everyone in the cave is blindfolded and shakled except one soul who can see the light in the cave and has the duty to describe what he sees to those who can not.
Pic #3 looked like one thing initially to me but then i settled on 2 hands reaching down with really long fingernails to play what must be a wind instrument. The red couplings also get my attention.
Pic #4 the fire extinguisher does add proportion all i could come up with for this pic though is perhaps some really big mufflers? I spent 5 minutes trying to figure out if you had tried to align any lignes in the pic to be horizontal or vertical...
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It seems you've just been looking with your eyes closed. |
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Kelwyn
Location: DC Metro area
Gender: Male
Jackass of all trades.
| | | Re: *hands you four prints, leans back and sips his drink*
<Reply # 32 on 1/6/2006 11:15 PM >
| | | | Nicely done.
1: I like the colors and the overall mood of the shot. The red (looks like brickwork outside and rust inside?) add a nice contrast and really draw me into the shot, but there is enough space and movement that I'm not trapped there. Well done. I'd love to see this with a horizontal composition in the same aspect ratio, so the left edge opens just a bit, and the bottom edge set so the lantern on the ground is about a third of the way up. I think the tension between the roundness of the drain and the edges of the image would increase, and would make it that much more captivating. That said, I think the human element you've already included in this draws me in and connects me to not just to the image, but to the place itself. Excellent choice.
2: I love the expression and pose. Combined with the amount of subject matter in the bottom of the shot (as opposed to cropping it in), it gives a great sense of longing to get out. Very nicely done; I couldn't think of how to improve this.
3: I think this is the best of the group. I stared at this for a very long while before I even noticed the person. You have done a great job in all of these with the human element being present and powerful, but not making the shot be _about_ the person, as it would be in a traditional portrait. Difficult to pull off, and exceptionally well done. I would be intereted in seeing what would happen if you desaturated the entire photo by %50 or so, but left the person as is. It might work, it might not.
4: Well composed and nice colors, but it just doesn't reach out to me on the same level. Perhaps it is that your others have people in them, and this one suffers by comparison; perhaps I am just not as interested in the subject matter. A great shot, just not my cup of tea.
All in all, very well done. And kudos for the comment about critiquing being a give and take.
"I worry that Jesus drinks himself to sleep when he hears me talk like this."
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EatsTooMuchJam
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Gender: Male
Squirty "Stickybuns" von Cherrypants
| | | | | | Re: *hands you four prints, leans back and sips his drink*
<Reply # 33 on 1/7/2006 12:18 AM >
| | | | Posted by yokes
Don't forget 1:1 medium format.
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... which does not fit on most types of paper. You will most definitely be cropping!
Posted by Kowalski
Yes, if you're printing to physical media (though I generally dislike the physical dimensions of 8x10). But 4x6 is the standard that comes closest to the golden mean (1:1.618).
Floating on a broader field, as photos do on our computer screens, I really think the 2:3 ratio looks prettiest. |
It'll all come down to personal preference for many things.
"The large print giveth and the small print taketh away."
-Tom Waits |
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