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 PyroMaster
   
Location: wny hamburg area
Gender: Male
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< on 12/19/2004 10:43 PM >
|  | | | i just bought a grappling hook today from the karate place in the mall...but the rope wasnt tied to it...and i am having a hard time acheiving a knot i'd trust my life to...any suggestions?
wait i'm not supposed to be here?
-no
o ok fuck you then |
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Jester
Location: Vancouver,B.C. Canada
Gender: Male
Always just out of sight...
| | | Re: grappling hook
<Reply # 1 on 12/19/2004 10:49 PM >
|  | | | Is the hook actually decent quality to begin with ? A lot of cheap ass flimsy hooks are out there. I'd definitely test it's strength by attaching it to something 8 feet up or something, and hanging off it and putting extra weight on it as well. For the knot, I'd just search knots online and you'll find all sorts of possibles to use.
It requires wisdom to understand wisdom: the music is nothing if the audience is deaf. |
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Mark
  
Very Noble Donor
Location: South Carolina
Gender: Male
What is a lion, king of the savannah, when hes at the south pole?
| | Re: grappling hook
<Reply # 2 on 12/19/2004 11:45 PM >
|  | | | A double figure 8 knot should work perfectly for your needs.
"If the threat level goes up its probably because of me." "I am looking for a girl who enjoys headbutting beltbuckles" |
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PyroMaster
Location: wny hamburg area
Gender: Male
best band ever
| | | | | | Re: grappling hook
<Reply # 3 on 12/19/2004 11:45 PM >
| | | | Posted by Mark
A double figure 8 knot should work perfectly for your needs.
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wait i'm not supposed to be here?
-no
o ok fuck you then |
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Mark
Very Noble Donor
Location: South Carolina
Gender: Male
What is a lion, king of the savannah, when hes at the south pole?
| | Re: grappling hook
<Reply # 4 on 12/19/2004 11:47 PM >
| | | | A figure 8 should do it just fine.
http://www.massey....gow/nzss/knots.htm
"If the threat level goes up its probably because of me." "I am looking for a girl who enjoys headbutting beltbuckles" |
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bigshooter
Gender: Male
| | Re: grappling hook
<Reply # 5 on 12/20/2004 1:44 AM >
| | | | Actually, a figure 8 would be a bit bulky. A Lark's head with a half hitch to lock it off. OR a bowline (rescue knot) would probably be the most effective.
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Captain Midnight
Location: Vancouver, British Columbia
| | Re: grappling hook
<Reply # 6 on 12/20/2004 2:02 AM >
| | | | Has anyone actually used a grappling hook before?
the night time is the right time |
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Jester
Location: Vancouver,B.C. Canada
Gender: Male
Always just out of sight...
| | | Re: grappling hook
<Reply # 7 on 12/20/2004 2:04 AM >
| | | | Posted by Captain Midnight
Has anyone actually used a grappling hook before?
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I've used one numerous times. My own homemade grapple. A few places on wraiths needed the grapple to get in...
It requires wisdom to understand wisdom: the music is nothing if the audience is deaf. |
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PyroMaster
Location: wny hamburg area
Gender: Male
best band ever
| | | | | | Re: grappling hook
<Reply # 8 on 12/20/2004 2:10 AM >
| | | | Posted by Jester
I've used one numerous times. My own homemade grapple. A few places on wraiths needed the grapple to get in...
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technequies? is it hard how can i learn...etc...by the way the figure 8 looks fine and looks like it should work
wait i'm not supposed to be here?
-no
o ok fuck you then |
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Jester
Location: Vancouver,B.C. Canada
Gender: Male
Always just out of sight...
| | | Re: grappling hook
<Reply # 9 on 12/20/2004 2:14 AM >
| | | | Just go somewhere that you can practice the throw. If you search on the forum here, you'll find other threads where I've described how I made my hook, and some help for getting them to catch and release. Not sure if it's been archived yet or not, so may need to search archived posts...
It requires wisdom to understand wisdom: the music is nothing if the audience is deaf. |
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Captain Midnight
Location: Vancouver, British Columbia
| | Re: grappling hook
<Reply # 10 on 12/20/2004 2:17 AM >
| | | | Posted by Jester
I've used one numerous times. My own homemade grapple. A few places on wraiths needed the grapple to get in...
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thats bitchin' if you don't mind me asking how did you make the grapple?
I've seen those flimsy looking grappling hooks at the army surplus store...
and theres this thing available on the net
http://www.ustacticalsupply.com/grabber.shtml
it looks good, but a bit too much cash for a starving student...
the night time is the right time |
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Captain Midnight
Location: Vancouver, British Columbia
| | Re: grappling hook
<Reply # 11 on 12/20/2004 2:18 AM >
| | | | ok forget my last post I typed it too slow!
the night time is the right time |
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Jester
Location: Vancouver,B.C. Canada
Gender: Male
Always just out of sight...
| | | Re: grappling hook
<Reply # 12 on 12/20/2004 2:20 AM >
| | | | Here's the link to the thread in the archives.
http://www.uer.ca/...urrpage=1&pp#post5
That gives the general idea. That's a very small grapple, works well on open windows, but not on cinderblock (not long enough hooks to catch).
Just make sure you test anything you make very well before using...
[last edit 12/20/2004 2:22 AM by Jester - edited 1 times]
It requires wisdom to understand wisdom: the music is nothing if the audience is deaf. |
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Spec-Ops
Location: Hamilton
Gender: Male
| | |  | | | Re: grappling hook
<Reply # 13 on 12/20/2004 6:59 PM >
| | | | Posted by Mark
A double figure 8 knot should work perfectly for your needs.
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Mark is right. A double figure eight knot is one of the only knots I'd trust my life with in this case. Do you even know how to make a double figure eight knot though?
This is a picture of it.
[last edit 12/20/2004 7:02 PM by Spec-Ops - edited 1 times]
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Mark
Very Noble Donor
Location: South Carolina
Gender: Male
What is a lion, king of the savannah, when hes at the south pole?
| | Re: grappling hook
<Reply # 14 on 12/20/2004 7:01 PM >
| | | | I sure as hell do. I usually use a figure 8 with a stop knot when I am lazy. Double just is safer.
"If the threat level goes up its probably because of me." "I am looking for a girl who enjoys headbutting beltbuckles" |
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Slickis
Noble Donor
Location: Kokomo, Indiana
Gender: Male
Rest In Piece Booger 4-6-08
| | Re: grappling hook
<Reply # 15 on 12/20/2004 11:32 PM >
| | | | Posted by Captain Midnight
it looks good, but a bit too much cash for a starving student...
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If you seriously want to use a grappling hook, $149.00 is not that much when it comes to saving your ass. Sure a 15 dollar hook is more affordable but that savings won't mean shit to you if that hook bends. It's kinda like rock climbing with a roll of hemp rope because it's cheaper than climbing rope.
I've been feeling funny since I went in that open crypt. Not sure what it is. |
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Captain Midnight
Location: Vancouver, British Columbia
| | Re: grappling hook
<Reply # 16 on 12/21/2004 12:53 AM >
| | | | Posted by Slickis
If you seriously want to use a grappling hook, $149.00 is not that much when it comes to saving your ass. Sure a 15 dollar hook is more affordable but that savings won't mean shit to you if that hook bends. It's kinda like rock climbing with a roll of hemp rope because it's cheaper than climbing rope.
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yeah but thats a hundred and fifty AMERICAN crazy dollars! that would be like $183.225 Canadian, round that up to $183.23 and thats exactly $183.23 more than I have right now. But then again, your right my ass is worth more than that.
the night time is the right time |
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bigshooter
Gender: Male
| | Re: grappling hook
<Reply # 17 on 12/21/2004 9:15 PM >
| | | | For reference, a bowline is considered to be *the* knot to use when your talking life or death kinds of things. A bowline on a bight makes a nifty seat for rescue or repeling on a budget. The Bowline can't come untied with weight on the rope, same as a figure 8. To quote http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowline;
After learning the overhand knot and the figure-of-eight knot, the Bowline is the next most useful and easy to learn knot. Many people are taught the slow and all thumbs 'Bunny' method. In fact it can be very fast to tie even under the most difficult of circumstances.
There are many 'loop on the end' knots. Like the others the bowline can be made and then secured over an object like a post. But many other loop knots are unlike the Bowline. The working end can first be passed through a ring object and then tied. This unique feature of the Bowline makes it a convenient loop knot and a knot every one should master. One bowline tied through another is one way of joining two ropes.
Perhaps a bit of overzealousness on one knot-tyer's part, the bowline has the strength in which "the rope will break before the knot comes undone."
Why is this better then the Figure 8 for this situation? Because you reduce the number of turns put in the rope by over half. And as everyone should know, the more loops and turns, the weaker the rope becomes. Anyway... just my 2 bits. I guess I'm glad now I paid attention at scout camp...
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Ryden
Location: Barrie On
Gender: Male
| | Re: grappling hook
<Reply # 18 on 12/22/2004 9:12 PM >
| | | | That army one looks good for wood and etc. but the arms don't look to have that much curve to grab onto metal objects and the like, and the teeth won't help you in that situation either.
[last edit 12/22/2004 9:13 PM by Ryden - edited 1 times]
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Captain Midnight
Location: Vancouver, British Columbia
| | Re: grappling hook
<Reply # 19 on 12/23/2004 12:51 AM >
| | | | I wonder if the angle of the arms is adjustable..
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