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 Archivist
Location: Long Island, NY
Gender: Male
 |  |  |  | Copying large site maps and blueprints.
< on 10/18/2004 9:47 PM >
|  | | | While doing in depth research a few sites I have came across blueprints and maps in various archives, one in the backroom of a library and the other in a collection at a museum. The task at hand is to digitize them. I have also come across stashes of pictures in various archives as well. The problem with large site maps and blueprints is how to copy them. In one instance I am able to borrow the maps. I checked with several office stores and there is one Staples in my area that has the means to copy blueprint sized documents, not all Staples can. I have not used this service yet but am almost sure it is just B&W. One of the things that makes the older blueprints look so special is the color and I would prefer not to lose that. Up till now I have been using my digital camera to take photographs as best as I can. For obvious reasons this may not be the best way. How have you guys combated this problem?
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nostra-YOUPPI!
  
Umpire
Location: Shahre:'on Kaybec
Bonsoir et cest partie
| | Re: Copying large site maps and blueprints.
<Reply # 1 on 10/18/2004 9:51 PM >
| | | | i dont know where you are but i use a place here in montreal in chinatown they charge relatively reasonable prices. they are the only store in montreal with copiers big enough, they have 2 locations, forgot the name though 
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Uncle Goose
 
Location: Ghent, Belgium
Gender: Male
The Goose knows best.
| | | Re: Copying large site maps and blueprints.
<Reply # 2 on 10/19/2004 9:07 AM >
| | | | Try to contact a architect or something, they have access to large copiers for drawings and stuff.
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nostra-YOUPPI!
Umpire
Location: Shahre:'on Kaybec
Bonsoir et cest partie
| | Re: Copying large site maps and blueprints.
<Reply # 3 on 10/19/2004 11:19 AM >
| | | | or they will shoot you in the right direction, as copiers for plans are upwards of 100 000$ they tend to use copy services too
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wooble
Location: Surrey, UK
Gender: Male
| | | Re: Copying large site maps and blueprints.
<Reply # 4 on 10/20/2004 10:56 PM >
| | | | Most general digital services companies do large-format scanning and the like, my mum's an artist and she gets her work scanned and prints made for about £20 a go at a digital service outfit. You could probably find something similar in the phone book I shoud think. I did some part-time work there over the summer, they had copiers big enough to copy pretty much anything you could throw at them. I think what costs a lot more money is if you intend to get full size prints done of large plans.
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Duke
Noble Donor
Location: Awww-shitby, Ontario
Gender: Male
Move it or lose it
| | Re: Copying large site maps and blueprints.
<Reply # 5 on 10/21/2004 10:29 AM >
| | | | you could always take a bunch of high res digital photos and patch them together in photoshop to make one uber-huge copy that you can then shrink down to a more practical size, or break into sections.
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Giblet
Location: Atlanta
Gender: Male
| | Re: Copying large site maps and blueprints.
<Reply # 6 on 10/21/2004 12:56 PM >
| | | | Look in the Yellow Pages for printing shops in your area. Call them and ask if they do "Diazo" (that's Die-A-Zoe) work. This is a relatively inexpensive blueprint duplication process. (I used to fix diazo processors for Kodak in NYC...)
You can usually haggle on the price. 
Maps are another kettle of fish. I'd rent a medium-format camera and photograph them -- if I were only interested in their content -- or take them to a printer for large-format camera duplication if I wanted to put it on my wall.
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SPEK Photo
Location: Where you were not.
"Chere cachère!"
| | | Re: Copying large site maps and blueprints.
<Reply # 7 on 10/24/2004 3:13 AM >
| | | | xerox machine makes b&w copy of 40" wide by how long you want. Basically it's a wide copy machine that is feeded with blank sheets at the bottom and the original on top. Those are photocopier quality system, they are found in most copy labs for drafting and plans copy.
Blue lines on a white background are called blue print, they are made with an amonia copy machine, they are getting rare.
The old white line on a dark blue background: the real original blue like we see in Roadrunner vs Willy the coyote, are the now almost gone. very few places will make them and they are expensive as they were made by doing an inter-negative. There is also those old stinky brown&yellow print, they are calle sepia and are long time not used anymore.
You can have you copy made on regular bond paper: cheap, on velum cotton paper : best, or on film : not useful unless you are draftman.
Most quality drafting lab can scan large document ex.: "D" size (34x44") and give you a .tif file from it. You are free then to modify the file by inverting the the image and make it blue&white in photoshop, and than have it printed on a large plotter.
it all depends on how much money you have.
ex.:
Normal "D" b&w copy: 3$
blue print copy: 10$
old fashion Blue.....75$
scaning : 20$
"d" plotted bublejet drawing: 25$
Grain Elevator old fashion original copy: Priceless
[last edit 10/24/2004 3:16 AM by SPEK Photo - edited 1 times]
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Freak
Location: Usually Alaska, now MSP.
Gender: Male
Hypocrite
| | | Re: Copying large site maps and blueprints.
<Reply # 8 on 10/24/2004 10:58 AM >
| | | | I got some blueprints copied a few times. Once at the city planning offices (they had their own machines and did it for free for my "project on storm drainage"), and once at a professional drafting company. I think it cost a few dollars per copy depending on the size, and they messed up a few times getting the exposure right on the WWII blueprints I had, but it was well worth it.
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Skaught
Location: Calgary
Gender: Male
| | | Re: Copying large site maps and blueprints.
<Reply # 9 on 11/8/2004 5:08 AM >
| | | | We have hundreds of maps and blueprints in the UEA archives.
Initally it started with city storm drain maps. We were able to get copies for $1.60 each from Joy at the city engineering desk. Unfortunately the city raised the prices to $6.50 each and they only cover a few square blocks, so it was going to get expensive.
We had the existing maps scanned large format by a uea member who's family owns a printing compnay that does engineering work. We have about 30-40% of the city in jpg format. We plan to put that online for uea members soon. If we had to pay for it it would cost thousands.
To get additional maps, we found a way to use a digital camera on 50 ISO with the right settings that gets prerrty good copies of the photos. And Joy at the map counter does not seem to mind when we copy them that way.
The camera method seems to work pretty well on most any blueprint or map too. We have to photoshop the pimages after to get them just right but once it is done they look quite good.
I am thinking of putting all the maps into my ipaq and talking it with me. We have in the past used a laptop and gps and superimposed the drain map in the city map as a way to pinpoint hard to find manholes hidden inthe bush or in places where the roads and buildings have moved.
You can also buy our city's maps on the city website in autodeask format for a few grand.
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Archivist
Location: Long Island, NY
Gender: Male
| | | | Re: Copying large site maps and blueprints.
<Reply # 10 on 11/8/2004 3:24 PM >
| | | | Thanks for all the advice guys. I have been using the camera method too. 50 ISO setting huh, i'll have to see if that improves things a bit. Do you use a tripod when photoing the maps/blueprints because otherwise it seems hard to stitch a multy photo set together.
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Archivist
Location: Long Island, NY
Gender: Male
| | | | Re: Copying large site maps and blueprints.
<Reply # 11 on 12/18/2004 3:19 PM >
| | | | I actually found a really inexpensive place that copies blueprints near me recently. In fact, thats all they do.
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Captain Midnight
Location: Vancouver, British Columbia
| | Re: Copying large site maps and blueprints.
<Reply # 12 on 12/18/2004 10:19 PM >
|  | | | I'm not sure but wouldn't copying a blueprint screw up the scale of the drawing?
Most blueprints and building plans and what not are specifically scaled so as to allow people to put a ruler on it and obtain exact measurements/distances. The precision of this feature may be sacrificed by certain copying methods.. Knowing the exact scale might not be necessary but still.. if your gonna have a print it might as well be deadly.
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Archivist
Location: Long Island, NY
Gender: Male
| | | | Re: Copying large site maps and blueprints.
<Reply # 13 on 2/6/2005 2:36 PM >
| | | | Well, the place I had the copy made was actually called a "Blueprint Copy Center", and I am sure they would take this into account. Even if not though the precise scale isn't too important.
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