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 BigPoppaMikey
   
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Location: Milpitas, California
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<Reply # 1 on 9/20/2004 9:28 PM >
|  | | | HOLY SHIT!!! Starting experiments now...
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Conundrum
   
Criticón
Location: GTA
Gender: Male
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| | Re: How to ZAP a Camera
<Reply # 2 on 9/20/2004 11:29 PM >
| | | | I have heard that you can do similar things with motion sensors to screw them up. I'll have to remember to carry a laser pointer with me for when I run in to cameras.
Conundrum
[last edit 9/20/2004 11:29 PM by Conundrum - edited 1 times]
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Servo
| | Re: How to ZAP a Camera
<Reply # 3 on 9/20/2004 11:35 PM >
| | | | Posted by Conundrum
I have heard that you can do similar things with motion sensors to screw them up.
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OT, but there was a rather long drawn-out thread about this; I'm linking to it here to avoid a repeat of it because ultimately it degenerated to people not reading the posts and suggesting the same bonehead ideas over and over and over again.
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SnakeEyes
Gender: Male
| | Re: How to ZAP a Camera
<Reply # 4 on 9/21/2004 12:09 AM >
| | | | This WILL NOT WORK unless you are against really old cameras AND have a very steady aim.
Pity the poor agnostic dyslexic insomniac; he stays up all night, wondering if there really is a dog. |
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Conundrum
Criticón
Location: GTA
Gender: Male
Now Entering The Bling Chamber
| | Re: How to ZAP a Camera
<Reply # 5 on 9/21/2004 12:10 AM >
| | | | Posted by Servo
OT, but there was a rather long drawn-out thread about this; I'm linking to it here to avoid a repeat of it because ultimately it degenerated to people not reading the posts and suggesting the same bonehead ideas over and over and over again.
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I didn't say it was true, I just said I had heard something about it.
Conundrum
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Servo
| | Re: How to ZAP a Camera
<Reply # 6 on 9/21/2004 1:13 AM >
| | | | Posted by Conundrum
I didn't say it was true, I just said I had heard something about it.
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Yeah I know, I was just heading off that particular discussion at the pass. Wasn't aimed specifically at you. 
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ArmchairExplorer
Location: Vancouver
| | Re: How to ZAP a Camera
<Reply # 7 on 9/21/2004 3:21 AM >
| | | | This trick will work against all cameras: just use enough power.
Finding a way to covertly carry a 500 Watt CO2 laser is left as an exercise for the student.
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Bobtheallmighty
Location: Somewhere over london, Ontario
Gender: Male
gotta climb.
| | Re: How to ZAP a Camera
<Reply # 8 on 9/21/2004 3:25 AM >
| | | | if you can get your hands on one you might be able to carry around a 1kw chem laser and just melt the damn things.
-bob
" <Samurai> you know, we aren't as far removed from animals as we'd like to think... i still have bowel movements that border on mystical... i mean almost orgasmic" |
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Spyder
Location: Ottawa
Gender: Male
Holy Fuck!!! There's a tree frog in the toilet!
| | Re: How to ZAP a Camera
<Reply # 9 on 9/21/2004 3:48 PM >
| | | | Here are a great set of cameras to try the techniques on.
I love this quote from the Mayor.
"We're not inside your home or your business," Mayor Daley said. "The city owns the sidewalks. We own the streets and we own the alleys."
I thought the people of Chicago owned the streets, the sidewalks, the alleys, and the drains.
Chicago Moving to 'Smart' Surveillance Cameras
By STEPHEN KINZER
Published: September 21, 2004
HICAGO, Sept. 20 - A highly advanced system of video surveillance that Chicago officials plan to install by 2006 will make people here some of the most closely observed in the world. Mayor Richard M. Daley says it will also make them much safer.
"Cameras are the equivalent of hundreds of sets of eyes," Mr. Daley said when he unveiled the new project this month. "They're the next best thing to having police officers stationed at every potential trouble spot."
Police specialists here can already monitor live footage from about 2,000 surveillance cameras around the city, so the addition of 250 cameras under the mayor's new plan is not a great jump. The way these cameras will be used, however, is an extraordinary technological leap.
Sophisticated new computer programs will immediately alert the police whenever anyone viewed by any of the cameras placed at buildings and other structures considered terrorist targets wanders aimlessly in circles, lingers outside a public building, pulls a car onto the shoulder of a highway, or leaves a package and walks away from it. Images of those people will be highlighted in color at the city's central monitoring station, allowing dispatchers to send police officers to the scene immediately.
Officials here designed the system after studying the video surveillance network in London, which became a world leader in this technology during the period when Irish terrorists were active. The Chicago officials also studied systems used in Las Vegas casinos, as well as those used by Army combat units. The system they have devised, they say, will be the most sophisticated in the United States and perhaps the world.
"What we're doing is a totally new concept," said Ron Huberman, executive director of the city's office of emergency management and communications. "This is a very innovative way to harness the power of cameras. It's going to take us to a whole new level."
Many cities have installed large numbers of surveillance cameras along streets and near important buildings, but as the number of these cameras has grown, it has become impossible to monitor all of them. The software that will be central to Chicago's surveillance system is designed to direct specialists to screens that show anything unusual happening.
Mr. Huberman, a 32-year-old former police officer who is also what one aide called "a techno geek," said this new system "should produce a significant decrease in crime, and from a homeland security standpoint it should be able to make our city safer."
When the system is in place, Mr. Huberman said, video images will be instantly available to dispatchers at the city's 911 emergency center, which receives about 18,000 calls each day. Dispatchers will be able to tilt or zoom the cameras, some of which magnify images up to 400 times, in order to watch suspicious people and follow them from one camera's range to another's.
A spokesman for the Illinois chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union, Edwin C. Yohnka, said the new system was "really a huge expansion of the city's surveillance program."
"With the aggressive way these types of surveillance equipment are being marketed and implemented," Mr. Yohnka said, "it really does raise questions about what kind of society do we ultimately want, and how intrusive we want law enforcement officials to be in all of our lives."
The surveillance network will embrace cameras placed not only by the police department, but also by a variety of city agencies including the transit, housing and aviation authorities. Private companies that maintain their own surveillance of areas around their buildings will also be able to send their video feeds to the central control room that is being built at a fortified city building.
The 250 new cameras, along with the new system dispatchers will use to monitor them, are to be in place by the spring of 2006. A $5.1 million federal grant will be used to pay for the cameras, and the city will add $3.5 million to pay for the computer network that will connect them.
This project is a central part of Chicago's response to the threat of terrorism, as well as an effort to reduce the city's crime rate. It also subjects people here to extraordinary levels of surveillance. Anyone walking in public is liable to be almost constantly watched.
"The value we gain in public safety far outweighs any perception by the community that this is Big Brother who's watching," Mr. Huberman said. "The feedback we're getting is that people welcome this. It makes them feel safer."
One community organizer who works in a high-crime neighborhood, Ernest R. Jenkins, chairman of the West Side Association for Community Action, said the 2,000 cameras now in place had reduced crime and were "having an impact, no if's, and's or but's about it." Nonetheless, Mr. Jenkins said, some people in Chicago believed the city was trying to "infiltrate people's privacy in the name of terrorist attacks."
"I just personally think that it's an invasion of people's privacy," Mr. Jenkins said of the new video surveillance project. "A large increase in the utilization of these cameras would oversaturate the market."
City officials counter that the cameras will monitor only public spaces. Rather than curb the system's future expansion, they have raised the possibility of placing cameras in commuter and rapid transit cars and on the city's street-sweeping vehicles.
"We're not inside your home or your business," Mayor Daley said. "The city owns the sidewalks. We own the streets and we own the alleys."
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sympathy in chaos
Location: Chicago
Gender: Male
| |  | | Re: How to ZAP a Camera
<Reply # 10 on 9/21/2004 6:16 PM >
| | | | Nope...the city owns the streets.
I guess you have to live in Chicago to know that you really have littley say on how Daley runs the city.
Read "Boss" by Mike Royko to get a good idea of how his father ran city hall and then just see his son as a better educated (Havard MBA), savvier and more subtle version of his dad.
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Feztaa
Location: Victoria, Canada
Gender: Male
Hide yo kids, hide yo wife
| | Re: How to ZAP a Camera
<Reply # 11 on 9/21/2004 7:25 PM >
| | | | Posted by bobtheallmighty
if you can get your hands on one you might be able to carry around a 1kw chem laser and just melt the damn things.
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Well hey, if you're going to do that, why not go all out and just carry around some tactical nukes with you? The resulting EMP from the blast will disable not just cameras, but ANY surveillance electronics for miles around! ;)
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DjMalign
Location: Fort Collins, CO
Gender: Male
Sexy, sexy, sexy
| | | Re: How to ZAP a Camera
<Reply # 12 on 9/22/2004 8:04 AM >
|  | | | But after you "zap" a camera most likely unless its taped and reviewed later security is gonna immediately notice a fucked up camera and will go investigate. I like the idea, but it might be helpful to flush out the urge to go James Bond style UE-ing. Plus if you get caught with the stuff it'll be a hefty penalty.
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Feztaa
Location: Victoria, Canada
Gender: Male
Hide yo kids, hide yo wife
| | Re: How to ZAP a Camera
<Reply # 13 on 9/22/2004 5:07 PM >
| | | | Yeah? I don't think they can fine/jail you for carrying around a tripod, gun sight, and laser pointer. ;)
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Servo
| | Re: How to ZAP a Camera
<Reply # 14 on 9/22/2004 5:19 PM >
| | | | Posted by Feztaa
Yeah? I don't think they can fine/jail you for carrying around a tripod, gun sight, and laser pointer. ;)
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I'm sure they could make something up if they thought you were trying to use it to aid in the commision of a crime...
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Bobtheallmighty
Location: Somewhere over london, Ontario
Gender: Male
gotta climb.
| | Re: How to ZAP a Camera
<Reply # 15 on 9/23/2004 3:41 AM >
| | | | thay could probibly get you on tampering with there equitment
-bob
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| | Re: How to ZAP a Camera
<Reply # 16 on 11/28/2004 11:13 PM >
| | | | thats what it practically is, if you render the camera useless for a moment wich is what this does
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Kokopelli
Location: Jacksonville, Florida
Gender: Male
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| | Re: How to ZAP a Camera
<Reply # 17 on 12/2/2004 3:40 PM >
| | | | I have to admit that the idea of going James Bond style on a camera, or taking the more brash approach as recommended on one of the links, sounds fun. But it is going to immediately draw unwanted attention. The security is not going to sit back and say, "Hmmm, must be the wind.." The idea is funny, but I prefer not to draw attention to myself.
:::Edited due to my own stupidity
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Mark
Very Noble Donor
Location: South Carolina
Gender: Male
What is a lion, king of the savannah, when hes at the south pole?
| | Re: How to ZAP a Camera
<Reply # 18 on 12/2/2004 10:17 PM >
| | | | If it were possible it would work fine for about 90% of the sites UE people go to. Most cameras only record stuff at sites like the ones we go to. Most cameras are hardly monitored unless your trying to get into a special place. If you are your probably not UEing or your going into one hell of a active site.
"If the threat level goes up its probably because of me." "I am looking for a girl who enjoys headbutting beltbuckles" |
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