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 UnchartedSights
 
Location: Commerce City, CO
Gender: Male
Live hard, live your dream
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< on 2/5/2014 6:47 PM >
|  | | | I just purchased a Nikon D7000, and just have the kit 18-140 VR lens for now. I do have a good knowledge of lenses and photography, but figured I'd post here to get advice from people who are experienced with UE photography.
What lenses would you guys recommend for UE photography? I'm guessing a 50 prime and wide angle(fisheye or Tokina 11-16) would be the next to add?
What other accessories would you recommend to add to my collection? I have a 36 and 160 LED video light, a few brackets, rain sleeve, tripod and monopod.
Thanks!
-Daniel-
"Why not?" is a slogan for an interesting life.
-Mason Cooley
http://unchartedsights.blogspot.com/ http://www.flickr....tos/danielmcadams/ |
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Adventure Crime
Location: Cleveland
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 1 on 2/5/2014 8:21 PM >
| | | | I have a d7100 and use the 18-55 as well as the Tokina. Tokina 11-16 AF-S is one of the best lenses out there IMO. Not only is it extremely fast (2.8 I think) and sharp, but it can be used to also catch beautiful photos of the milkyway. Considering its price, it makes it an affordable alternative to Nikon's 14-28.
I have never used a 14-28 but am told that the quality difference from the Tokina to the Nikon lens isn't noticeable enough to justify the extra few hundred dollars. Unless of course you have the disposable income. I also have a 50 that I don't carry with me. I don't really see the need for the higher mm lenses in abandonments. I might in time add a 35mm prime to my kit for when I shoot a model or a portrait.
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Dr_Fu_Manchu
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<Reply # 2 on 2/5/2014 8:47 PM >
| | | | Posted by Mister Owl
I have a d7100 and use the 18-55 as well as the Tokina. Tokina 11-16 AF-S is one of the best lenses out there IMO. Not only is it extremely fast (2.8 I think) and sharp, but it can be used to also catch beautiful photos of the milkyway. Considering its price, it makes it an affordable alternative to Nikon's 14-28.
I have never used a 14-28 but am told that the quality difference from the Tokina to the Nikon lens isn't noticeable enough to justify the extra few hundred dollars. Unless of course you have the disposable income. I also have a 50 that I don't carry with me. I don't really see the need for the higher mm lenses in abandonments. I might in time add a 35mm prime to my kit for when I shoot a model or a portrait.
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With a crop sensor on a 7000 or 7100, you really want to use 50mm for portraits. It's going to be closest to an 85mm on a full frame and 85mm is the optimal focal length for portraits.
While a wide angle is great for landscape and abandonments, there are certainly many opportunities for a 50mm, especially if your looking to shoot something wide open. The nikkor 50mm 1.8G was the first lens I bought for my d7000 and have never regretted it. I had the 1.4 and returned it for the 1.8. A 50mm is a great lens to train you how to frame and compose shots as you're going to have to move your feet.
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UnchartedSights
Location: Commerce City, CO
Gender: Male
Live hard, live your dream
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<Reply # 3 on 2/5/2014 8:59 PM >
| | | | Posted by Mister Owl
I have a d7100 and use the 18-55 as well as the Tokina. Tokina 11-16 AF-S is one of the best lenses out there IMO. Not only is it extremely fast (2.8 I think) and sharp, but it can be used to also catch beautiful photos of the milkyway. Considering its price, it makes it an affordable alternative to Nikon's 14-28.
I have never used a 14-28 but am told that the quality difference from the Tokina to the Nikon lens isn't noticeable enough to justify the extra few hundred dollars. Unless of course you have the disposable income. I also have a 50 that I don't carry with me. I don't really see the need for the higher mm lenses in abandonments. I might in time add a 35mm prime to my kit for when I shoot a model or a portrait.
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I've looked into the Nikon but have heard the same about the Tokina. I definitely do not have a disposable income so Tokina would be the way to go for me.
"Why not?" is a slogan for an interesting life.
-Mason Cooley
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UnchartedSights
Location: Commerce City, CO
Gender: Male
Live hard, live your dream
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<Reply # 4 on 2/5/2014 9:01 PM >
| | | | Posted by Dr_Fu_Manchu
With a crop sensor on a 7000 or 7100, you really want to use 50mm for portraits. It's going to be closest to an 85mm on a full frame and 85mm is the optimal focal length for portraits.
While a wide angle is great for landscape and abandonments, there are certainly many opportunities for a 50mm, especially if your looking to shoot something wide open. The nikkor 50mm 1.8G was the first lens I bought for my d7000 and have never regretted it. I had the 1.4 and returned it for the 1.8. A 50mm is a great lens to train you how to frame and compose shots as you're going to have to move your feet.
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Very true. I forgot about the crop factor when I posted this. A 35mm would probably be a good way to go too. I had a 50mm 1.8 with my old Canon t3 and loved the lens but never used it on my explorations, I don't know why.
"Why not?" is a slogan for an interesting life.
-Mason Cooley
http://unchartedsights.blogspot.com/ http://www.flickr....tos/danielmcadams/ |
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Ogre Battle
Location: Chicago IL
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 5 on 2/6/2014 6:32 PM >
| | | | Yeah, a quality wide zoom like the Tokina you mentioned (or the Nikon equivalent) is a must, in my opinion.
I have the 12-24/f4 zoom which is my "go to" lens I use for exploration. If I'm travelling light, its the ONLY lens I carry. It doesn't matter to me that its f4 instead of f2.8 because I'm usually stopping down to f8 or so (on a tripod obviously since we're indoors). I do have a 17-55/f2.8 but its not wide enough for most indoor stuff though.
I also have a 50mm but I never use it. It always felt like a cumbersome focal length on a 35mm film camera (not wide but yet not telephoto either). On a crop-sensor digital, its even less useful. In my opinion, of course. Like was mentioned earlier, its a great lens for portraits if that is your thing. Or it would probably do well for shooting closeups of objects with the background blurred out because you can shoot it at 1.4 or 1.8.
I don't recommend wasting money on the fisheye, unless you feel its something you HAVE to have and will use a lot. Get the basics first.
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ISO640
  
Location: Somewhere in Maryland
Gender: Female
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<Reply # 6 on 2/6/2014 6:41 PM >
| | | | I have the Nikkor 12-24 f/4, the Nikkor 50mm f/1.8 and the 35mm f/1.8. I use the 12-24 the most but recently I've only been taking either the 50 or 35 so I have to look at things other ways. But, I prefer the 12-24. I wish I could afford a faster super-wide without going fisheye.
That said, the kit lens that comes with the camera isn't a terrible lens. It's generally not fast enough for handheld shots when exploring but it'd take good photos on a tripod. Something I've learned (after spending so much money on glass) is that you should work with what you have and save money for really good glass. You can have a mediocre camera body but if your lens is mediocre too, well. then you're kinda screwed and will get disappointed. Not that any of the lenses I have are lackluster but I kinda wish I had saved the money for a faster lens.
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Ogre Battle
Location: Chicago IL
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 7 on 2/6/2014 8:12 PM >
| | | | Posted by ISO640
That said, the kit lens that comes with the camera isn't a terrible lens. It's generally not fast enough for handheld shots when exploring but it'd take good photos on a tripod.
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I agree; stop that lens down a few stops and its probably fine.
A hand-held photo taken at 1/15th of a second at f2.8 and ISO 1600 and a tripod-mounted photo taken at eight seconds at f8 and ISO 100 will have the same exposure (if I've done my math correctly!), but you can bet the latter will be a whole ton sharper.
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seedy
Location: Triad, North Carolina
Gender: Male
Won't eat you.
| | | Re: UE Lenses and Accessories
<Reply # 8 on 2/10/2014 1:10 AM >
| | | | I use the D7000 and the 12-24 dx is on that camera 99% of the time. I think it also depends on what you like to shoot.
I usually go for wide interiors first, but i'll sometimes pack my 35mm 1.4 for details depending on the location. I also almost always use a tripod and used to shoot with a fixed 20mm prime, but got sick of moving the tripod around when the composition just wasn't right. I got my 12-24 used off of craigslist for about 1/2 price.
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General Zod
Location: Provvy-Prov, Rhode Island
Gender: Male
www.mycophagia.c om
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<Reply # 9 on 2/10/2014 3:42 AM >
| | | | Posted by Dr_Fu_Manchu
I had the 1.4 and returned it for the 1.8.
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That's an unusual decision. Most would opt for the fastest lens possible, i.e. 1.4. Why return a 1.4 for a 1.8? Then again, I guess it's really not that much of a difference.
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Dr_Fu_Manchu
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<Reply # 10 on 2/10/2014 1:07 PM >
| | | | Posted by General Zod
That's an unusual decision. Most would opt for the fastest lens possible, i.e. 1.4. Why return a 1.4 for a 1.8? Then again, I guess it's really not that much of a difference.
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I use the 50 for portraits mostly of kids. The autofocus is faster On the 1.8 plus the bokeh is better. Lastly, To your point, I rarely shoot that wide open for portraits so I didn't need it. Even in low light the 1.8G meets my needs. I just couldn't justify the price a lens that I felt was inferior.
I do have the Sigma 35mm 1.4 which I love. I had to send it back to them to get it calibrated correctly for my camera, but since them it's been a fantastic lens, especially for the price compared to the nikkor
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Axle
  
Location: Milton, ON
Gender: Male
Sieg oder Tod
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<Reply # 11 on 2/10/2014 1:19 PM >
| | | | I love the 50mm f/1.4, in fact I have two of them, the Nikon AF-D version and a manual focus AI-S, they never leave my camera bag, but then again neither does my 14-24 f/2.8.
The real question is what sort of photography are you looking for? The 11-16 gives nice wide angle, environmental style images.
Whereas the 50mm can we used for more detail oriented shots.
I'll often shoot a new location first with the 14-24 and a tripod, but then will switch up to a film camera, but throw the 50 onto the dSLR, and crank the ISO and shoot it handheld and close to wide open.
Celer at Audax
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Dr_Fu_Manchu
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<Reply # 12 on 2/10/2014 11:30 PM >
| | | | Posted by Axle
Whereas the 50mm can we used for more detail oriented shots.
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Agreed. this is what I mean when I said there is certainly many opportunities for a 50mm in urban photography. Plus you can pick the 1.8D rather cheaply if on a budget or go with the 1.8G or 1.4 if you looking to spend some cash.
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General Zod
Location: Provvy-Prov, Rhode Island
Gender: Male
www.mycophagia.c om
| | | | Re: UE Lenses and Accessories
<Reply # 13 on 2/11/2014 1:14 AM >
| | | | Posted by Dr_Fu_Manchu
Agreed. this is what I mean when I said there is certainly many opportunities for a 50mm in urban photography. Plus you can pick the 1.8D rather cheaply if on a budget or go with the 1.8G or 1.4 if you looking to spend some cash.
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I like the "magic three" rule, which implies that to be ready for any kind of photographic opportunity, you must carry no less than three lenses:
wide angle
Nearer subjects in distance from you, or (for example) 10mm focal length will suffer from too much distortion, but you get the whole scene in the picture, and decent depth of field, considering certain limitations.
portrait lens
Better DOF, depending on how fast the lens is. No distortion, best for portraits and (probably) close-ups or macros (I could be wrong)
long lens
The subject will be proportional and dialed right in to the center of frame from a distance, but you won't get the sharpness and DOF like you can with a quality 50mm, (unless you drop a lot of cash?)
For me, the upside of being limited to just a wide angle lens and a long lens is that I am forced to compromise with focal lengths and still get a decent shot. Most of the time, I can work it out.
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JD
Location: Indianapolis, IN
Gender: Male
| | Re: UE Lenses and Accessories
<Reply # 14 on 2/11/2014 3:46 AM >
| | | | I'm hoping to get a wide angle soon for my canon, probably the Tokina 11-16. Strangely enough I kind of like to shoot with my 50-135 2.8, I'm a sucker for tight shots. 
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Ogre Battle
Location: Chicago IL
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 15 on 2/11/2014 3:31 PM >
| | | | Posted by Axle
The real question is what sort of photography are you looking for? The 11-16 gives nice wide angle, environmental style images.
Whereas the 50mm can we used for more detail oriented shots.
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Good point. I do mostly the former. Like, perhaps 95%.
I have friends who do a lot of closeups (like the latter photo) and a fast portrait lens (like a 50 or even a 35 on a crop sensor camera) is a must-have for them.
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Axle
Location: Milton, ON
Gender: Male
Sieg oder Tod
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<Reply # 16 on 2/11/2014 3:34 PM >
| | | | Posted by Dr_Fu_Manchu
Agreed. this is what I mean when I said there is certainly many opportunities for a 50mm in urban photography. Plus you can pick the 1.8D rather cheaply if on a budget or go with the 1.8G or 1.4 if you looking to spend some cash.
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Plus the D7000 is compatible with all Nikon Lenses. Do you can have full functionality with D-Type lenses, or if you can find an AI or AI-S manual focus lens you can use that as well!
Celer at Audax
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