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UER Forum > Archived Rookie Forum > MSA Safety Works 817664 Toxic Dust Respirator (Viewed 1320 times)
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MSA Safety Works 817664 Toxic Dust Respirator
< on 5/6/2013 4:40 PM >
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what do you guys think of this respirator i am trying to find one i can buy for every hazer out there what is your guys recommendation and what spot light do you guys use i have a Stanley Fat Max Lithium Ion Halogen Spotlight what is a good one with huge long run time?

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Re: MSA Safety Works 817664 Toxic Dust Respirator
<Reply # 1 on 5/6/2013 5:11 PM >
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not sure you're going to find a "does everything" respirator. That's the one I have and it's good for lead/asbestos.

The key is to look at the rating.

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Re: MSA Safety Works 817664 Toxic Dust Respirator
<Reply # 2 on 5/6/2013 5:11 PM >
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I got a similar one with this model number: 817663

Here is the product page for mine:
http://www.safetyw...g/product1127.html
And for yours:
http://www.safetyw...g/product1124.html

As you can see my filter is already a couple of times larger than yours. Maybe I am just over protective, but when it comes to stuff like this I try to always have something that is far above the needs.

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Re: MSA Safety Works 817664 Toxic Dust Respirator
<Reply # 3 on 5/7/2013 5:11 PM >
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yeah i understand thanks guys.

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Re: MSA Safety Works 817664 Toxic Dust Respirator
<Reply # 4 on 5/7/2013 6:25 PM >
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Posted by SuchundFind
As you can see my filter is already a couple of times larger than yours. Maybe I am just over protective, but when it comes to stuff like this I try to always have something that is far above the needs.




The filter size has nothing to do with its protection factor.

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Re: MSA Safety Works 817664 Toxic Dust Respirator
<Reply # 5 on 5/8/2013 8:20 PM >
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Posted by arntzville


https://i.chzbgr.c...5051136/h45AA2C50/

The filter size has nothing to do with its protection factor.


And again a useless posting from you.

The filter size is proportional to the amount of filter layers you have in this filter, so actually a larger filter in general is better than a smaller filter.

But this might be to hard to understand for you.

And if this as we see is to hard for you to understand his one is a N95 while mine is a N100.



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Re: MSA Safety Works 817664 Toxic Dust Respirator
<Reply # 6 on 5/13/2013 3:25 PM >
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Posted by SuchundFind
The filter size is proportional to the amount of filter layers you have in this filter, so actually a larger filter in general is better than a smaller filter.

No, it's not. You're wrong.



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Re: MSA Safety Works 817664 Toxic Dust Respirator
<Reply # 7 on 5/13/2013 4:52 PM >
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Posted by arntzville

No, it's not. You're wrong.






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Re: MSA Safety Works 817664 Toxic Dust Respirator
<Reply # 8 on 5/14/2013 4:58 PM >
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well... now i don't know witch too chose...

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Re: MSA Safety Works 817664 Toxic Dust Respirator
<Reply # 9 on 5/14/2013 5:33 PM >
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Simple, choose one of the two following filter packs:

Black: Organic vapors (What I have)

Olive: Multi-contaminant

They are both easy to find and filter both particulate + chemical/mold vapor and the more common concern of UE people, asbestos.


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Re: MSA Safety Works 817664 Toxic Dust Respirator
<Reply # 10 on 5/15/2013 1:09 AM >
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Posted by Send4Help
Simple, choose one of the two following filter packs:

Black: Organic vapors (What I have)

Olive: Multi-contaminant

They are both easy to find and filter both particulate + chemical/mold vapor and the more common concern of UE people, asbestos.




you mean the filters that are attached to this one?

http://www.homedep...93827#.UZLfrLU3uSo



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Re: MSA Safety Works 817664 Toxic Dust Respirator
<Reply # 11 on 5/15/2013 1:09 AM >
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Posted by Send4Help
Simple, choose one of the two following filter packs:

Black: Organic vapors (What I have)

Olive: Multi-contaminant

They are both easy to find and filter both particulate + chemical/mold vapor and the more common concern of UE people, asbestos.




you mean the filters that are attached to this one?

http://www.homedep...93827#.UZLfrLU3uSo



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Re: MSA Safety Works 817664 Toxic Dust Respirator
<Reply # 12 on 5/15/2013 4:05 AM >
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Posted by lonewolf34
you mean the filters that are attached to this one?

http://www.homedep...93827#.UZLfrLU3uSo


The filters would look like this...

Organic- Black



Olive: Multi-contaminant




Keep in mind you can buy the mask without the filters, then look around for the best price on filters (online, in store, etc) and get the exact ones you need. Dont be limited to the "kit" units, make your own.
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Re: MSA Safety Works 817664 Toxic Dust Respirator
<Reply # 13 on 5/15/2013 4:12 AM >
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Shouldn't a P100 mask cover everything you'd run into?



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Re: MSA Safety Works 817664 Toxic Dust Respirator
<Reply # 14 on 5/15/2013 5:08 PM >
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Posted by CatAndTie
Shouldn't a P100 mask cover everything you'd run into?




The "P" is particulate, and a P-100 will stop 99.97% of particulate debris in the air but will not stop chemical vapor, organic vapor, and most any other volatile substance that isnt in a physical particulate form. That is the real key... Only particulate debris. Now, honestly this is going to be about 90% of what the common UE person will come into contact with, but in some cases where an animal has died in an indoor space and could be shedding toxic vapors or biological hazards, this may be useful to have. Same holds true in industrial complexes that may have residual chemical residue. Situations like that may advise a higher filter rating than just the P or N style.


Some common P and N style filters: (N= non-oil containing particulate)
Purple: Any particulates - P100
Orange: Any particulates - P95, P99, R95, R99, R100
Teal: Any particulates free of oil - N95, N99, or N100



Check out my pinned post for more info on how the filters are classed, tested, and their uses:
http://www.uer.ca/...=1&threadid=108617
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Re: MSA Safety Works 817664 Toxic Dust Respirator
<Reply # 15 on 5/15/2013 5:16 PM >
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So what kind of filter stops both particulate and vapor contaminants?

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Re: MSA Safety Works 817664 Toxic Dust Respirator
<Reply # 16 on 5/15/2013 6:26 PM >
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Posted by Send4Help


The "P" is particulate, and a P-100 will stop 99.97% of particulate debris in the air but will not stop chemical vapor, organic vapor, and most any other volatile substance that isnt in a physical particulate form. That is the real key... Only particulate debris. Now, honestly this is going to be about 90% of what the common UE person will come into contact with, but in some cases where an animal has died in an indoor space and could be shedding toxic vapors or biological hazards, this may be useful to have. Same holds true in industrial complexes that may have residual chemical residue. Situations like that may advise a higher filter rating than just the P or N style.


See if you can find combo filters, in that case. My AOSafety mask has combo P100/organic vapour carts but I don't think they're made any more...I have the metal screw-type mask, not the new plastic bayonet mount. If there's still filters like that available, they're well worth the added $.

Also, P100s will filter out CS tear gas, as it is in fact a fine particulate. Food for thought.

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Re: MSA Safety Works 817664 Toxic Dust Respirator
<Reply # 17 on 5/15/2013 7:24 PM >
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Posted by Eschaton
So what kind of filter stops both particulate and vapor contaminants?


Just what imprezawrxsti was talking about if you want to spend the extra cash on one, but I believe he is right that they are not made much (if at all) anymore, and they may need a different mask than the one the OP was looking at from 3M. You are actually pretty good (very good?) with an Olive: Multi-contaminant, they are usually rated for: CBRN particulates, vapors, and gases. That covers all bases.
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Re: MSA Safety Works 817664 Toxic Dust Respirator
<Reply # 18 on 5/15/2013 11:30 PM >
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Thank you guys (:

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Re: MSA Safety Works 817664 Toxic Dust Respirator
<Reply # 19 on 5/17/2013 12:39 AM >
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Posted by Send4Help


The filters would look like this...

Organic- Black



Olive: Multi-contaminant


Keep in mind you can buy the mask without the filters, then look around for the best price on filters (online, in store, etc) and get the exact ones you need. Dont be limited to the "kit" units, make your own.


ahh, thanks for the help..looks like I'll try to find some of the olive ones to switch out the ones that came in the kit

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