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Location: Tolland County, Connecticut
Gender: Male
 |  | Re: Overcoming fear
<Reply # 20 on 4/18/2013 2:07 PM >
|  | | | I always thought that if I was gonna be caught I'd be freaking out. But I've come up in situations before and I either am very calm or excited.
Except for the time a Mass state trooper stopped me outside an abandonment.
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Intrinsic
    
Location: Collingwood
Gender: Male
| | Re: Overcoming fear
<Reply # 21 on 4/18/2013 2:30 PM >
| | | | Fifteen years at doing this and I find my fear of being caught only grows, not lessens. In contrast I find that the younger ones are more of the risk takers.
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Se7eN
Location: Seattle, Washington
Gender: Male
coming to an elevator shaft near you.
| | Re: Overcoming fear
<Reply # 22 on 4/22/2013 5:43 PM >
| | | | fear is something to be embraced, it's you subconscious trying to get your attention. wether the fear stems from a specific phobia, or is a more general "what if something bad happens", it's completely normal.
i have a few specific fears/worries when solo exploring. i am more careful around hazards such as heights, unstable ground, etc. also i mind how loud/bright/noticable i am. then there are the things that i will not do alone, like rope work. Mainly when im alone everything becomes risk vs reward.
when it comes to getting caught i have a very different view. as someone who has been caught and tried for trespassing, i know my next encounter with the law will not be nearly as pleasant. i still choose to explore as its really just part of who i am, i just acknowledge and accept the continued risk. my advice to people who are unsure of how they feel about the legal aspect of this hobby is simple. if you think that you would give up the people you came with to get yourself out of trouble, then you shouldn't explore. if you are unprepared to face the legal system in the country you reside in then do not take up this hobby.
It really boils down to if i get caught, can i keep calm and continue to think rationally. personally, my mentality upon being confronted is usually something along the lines of "shit! its security get everyone out!" or "well, im fucked, but maybe i can stall them long enough to get everyone else out." depending solely on wether it's security that shows up, or the cops. Unless they have a gun and badge you are legally required to do nothing they say, ignore them and get out.
this hobby is dangerous, it can get you killed, arrested, and give you a criminal record. if these are things that you want to avoid, i'd recommend you try a different hobby, I hear sudoku is fun.
-Se7eN
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tofutiger
 
Location: College Station, TX
Gender: Male
The pelagic argosy sights land
| | Re: Overcoming fear
<Reply # 23 on 5/18/2013 2:07 AM >
| | | | You know, I always wonder what function fear should play in our daily lives, and if we actually benefit from having this emotion or not.
Usually I lean towards the conclusion that fear is no longer a useful emotion for us. Several thousand years ago, I could totally see how fear helped us live and survive in the wild, but now, in a modern day context, it's hardly useful. We possess knowledge of our environment that our ancestors did not -- we know what the dangers are, what the risks are, we know what causes what, we have the ability to weigh the pro's with the cons (the risks), etc. Having all these abilities I think renders fear useless. If we can make decisions rationally without the use of fear, why even bring fear into the equation, you know? If it's a rational decision we're after, then we should not rely on fear.
So what I do is, the night before, in the comforts and safety of my bed, I think about the situation, the pro's the con's (does the awesomeness of the experience justify the risks?). Then the next day I stick to my decision no matter my fear tells me to do. And it's liberating and fun when you do that. When you deny fear any decision making power, you can let it do what it wants, and the experience becomes even more fun with the added adrenaline fear brings you.
Omg I'm sorry for the triple message. My mouse clicker is stupid so I never know if the click goes through, so I click everything like 5 times haha
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tofutiger
Location: College Station, TX
Gender: Male
The pelagic argosy sights land
| | Re: Overcoming fear
<Reply # 24 on 5/18/2013 2:07 AM >
| | | | You know, I always wonder what function fear should play in our daily lives, and if we actually benefit from having this emotion or not.
Usually I lean towards the conclusion that fear is no longer a useful emotion for us. Several thousand years ago, I could totally see how fear helped us live and survive in the wild, but now, in a modern day context, it's hardly useful. We possess knowledge of our environment that our ancestors did not -- we know what the dangers are, what the risks are, we know what causes what, we have the ability to weigh the pro's with the cons (the risks), etc. Having all these abilities I think renders fear useless. If we can make decisions rationally without the use of fear, why even bring fear into the equation, you know? If it's a rational decision we're after, then we should not rely on fear.
So what I do is, the night before, in the comforts and safety of my bed, I think about the situation, the pro's the con's (does the awesomeness of the experience justify the risks?). Then the next day I stick to my decision no matter my fear tells me to do. And it's liberating and fun when you do that. When you deny fear any decision making power, you can let it do what it wants, and the experience becomes even more fun with the added adrenaline fear brings you.
"And it was, though more unutterable, like the crumbling away of two little heaps of finest sand, or dust, or ashes, of unequal size, but diminishing together as it were in ratio, if that means anything, and leaving behind them, each in its own stead, the blessedness of absence." |
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ISO640
Location: Somewhere in Maryland
Gender: Female
| | Re: Overcoming fear
<Reply # 25 on 5/18/2013 11:21 AM >
| | | | I'm, for the most part, a solo explorer who has promised her mom never to be arrested--I'm 42 and still make that promise. Anyway, when I explore I'm not as adventurous as others may be but I'm okay with that.
I get "scared" all the time when I go out but fear is a good thing. It makes you cautious, which is a good thing to be when exploring alone. I also have rules for my explores when I'm alone. For example, I don't go in basements or tunnels alone. I may miss out on stuff, but it's my personal line I've drawn because it makes me more comfortable when I explore solo. I also won't go anywhere that looks supremely dangerous by myself--but that isn't fear, that's just being smart.
As far as security/getting caught goes, I've run into security on a couple of occasions--one guy caught me driving on the property, I told him Google maps sent me here--another told me I was on private property, I told him sorry, didn't see any signs. Just the other day I was exploring and ended up running from a white truck, hung out in some woods for about ten minutes, then made my way back to exploring. I find running into security less fearful than walking on spongy wooden floors on the second/third/fourth floors. It's also kinda creepy when you're in a building by yourself and you hear doors slam but as many have said, that's all part of exploring--what makes it exciting.
Human beings like a good scare from time to time, why else would we watch horror movies or tell ghost stories around the campfire? The hardest part of getting into UE is doing your first one. Once you get that under your belt, the subsequent explores become easier.
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