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UER Forum > Archived Rookie Forum > Overcoming fear (Viewed 1401 times)
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Overcoming fear
< on 4/17/2013 12:53 AM >
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Does anyone have any tips for overcoming fear of injury or getting caught? I have a few areas by where I live that I would love to check out, but something holds me back from entering? Is it alright to be afraid, or should I just say "fuck it" and go in?

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Re: Overcoming fear
<Reply # 1 on 4/17/2013 1:09 AM >
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Of course you should fear those things, but you should use that to make smart decisions, not back out.

My advice is to learn to savour fear as an emotion, as something that means you're entertained or being distracted from other worries.

Or if you really need and the place isn't all that dangerous, a beer or two beforehand won't hurt.

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Re: Overcoming fear
<Reply # 2 on 4/17/2013 1:20 AM >
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The worry is understandable, but it's easy to get past if you don't give it too much thought. In terms of worrying about getting caught, I've heard that it happens to most (or every) explorer at least once.

I can't really give any advice about the fear of injury other than to see if someone will go with you if you're going somewhere that seems dangerous.

The fear is natural and it keeps you cautious and alert.

Good luck!

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Re: Overcoming fear
<Reply # 3 on 4/17/2013 1:27 AM >
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It just comes with time and experience. I have been doing this (occasionally) for about 14 years, and I still worry about getting caught all the time. Use the worry as motivation to plan and learn before you go.

I still have anxiety/panic attacks just in everyday life, so If I can do it, anyone can.

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Re: Overcoming fear
<Reply # 4 on 4/17/2013 1:32 AM >
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If you get any kind of bad feeling, try it another time, or do more research.

If you are talking fear of going "solo", that is totally understandable.

One of the things that is very stupid is to go somewhere that is very unsafe, alone.

I always travel with a buddy if not 2. But I have solo'd a drain and a couple of other places, so I know that feeling for sure.

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Re: Overcoming fear
<Reply # 5 on 4/17/2013 2:32 AM >
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Posted by Ethan Alloway

One of the things that is very stupid is to go somewhere that is very unsafe, alone.


I don't know anyone else who does UE, so anything I do will most likely be own my own.


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Re: Overcoming fear
<Reply # 6 on 4/17/2013 2:37 AM >
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Man up and fucking explore

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Re: Overcoming fear
<Reply # 7 on 4/17/2013 2:56 AM >
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I get nervous about getting caught/going in but after I get in a few minutes I ease up. Basically once you get in you'll relax and the adrenaline/excitement hits.

Sometimes it's best not to go in and save it for another time because you'll over think everything and you won't have any fun.

Find yourself in the unknown.
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Re: Overcoming fear
<Reply # 8 on 4/17/2013 3:16 AM >
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Regret,

As someone who has a severe fear of heights, I had to deal with it as I have ventured into mine exploring. Some mines are single level, but most have vertical shafts that connect the various levels. That put me into quite a dilemma, my fear of heights vs my desire to explore more remote sections of the mine.

My solution was to push my capabilities with each trip, and to explore with people more experienced than myself. I could watch more experienced explorers go ahead of me and had the confidence that they would help me if I got in over my head. Do I still have a fear of heights? Yes. Does it prevent me from exploring? Not any longer.

You don't have to "fix" your fear all at once, but pushing your boundaries will help you expand your horizons.







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Re: Overcoming fear
<Reply # 9 on 4/17/2013 3:19 AM >
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Posted by Shocked
Man up and fucking explore


Let's be nice here.

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Re: Overcoming fear
<Reply # 10 on 4/17/2013 3:20 AM >
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Posted by Regret


I don't know anyone else who does UE, so anything I do will most likely be own my own.



Look around. Unless you live in Alaska, there are probably some other local explorers.

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Re: Overcoming fear
<Reply # 11 on 4/17/2013 3:49 AM >
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Post by Abby Normal


You don't have to "fix" your fear all at once, but pushing your boundaries will help you expand your horizons.




This ^ ^ . Abby is absolutely correct. Doing small steps, something to ease into builds confidence. Fear is normal, fear keeps you healthy. If fear holds you back from doing things you want (anything in life), than it has become unhealthy. Take all reasonable precautions and than jump. Keep us posted.






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Re: Overcoming fear
<Reply # 12 on 4/17/2013 4:03 AM >
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You've got to think constantly. When it's possible to make decisions based on logic, reason, and hard data (for example, maps), use your brain to determine what the best course of action is. When there is no data, however, tread carefully and slowly, but rely more heavily on your instincts than your intellect. If you over-analyze a situation with no discernible correct outcome, you'll only confuse yourself and create doubt.
If you prepare accordingly, you'll be ready for unexpected situations, and if you plan accordingly, you'll be able to minimize variables. I haven't even done all that many explores, but I've done a lot of other things in my life that have helped me to mostly turn fear off. And there's a big difference between fear and caution. Get rid of fear. Burn it right out of your brain, because you don't need it. Fear will make you act irrationally, which is why you have to replace it with caution.
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Re: Overcoming fear
<Reply # 13 on 4/17/2013 4:30 AM >
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A healthy level of fear is a good thing. That being said, that fear should be more like a healthy level of paranoia...or more precisely, being aware of your surroundings at all times. That could have been more concise, but I made my point. Always keep an eye on your surroundings and always remember there is a chance you could get caught and/or hurt (sometimes there's nothing you can do about it)

When it comes to getting caught you really need to scout a place before entering. This doesn't mean you should lurk outside looking shady as fuck, but keep an eye on the place over the length of a couple of days (driving by once in a while works, just not five times in a row in one day). Do you see any security measures? Does it look like it's patrolled or closely watched? Is the site near homes or businesses? If it's near homes it's best to explore it in the middle of the day on a weekday, if it's near businesses then early on a weekend works best. Before entering try to scout a good point to enter through and once you've found it enter quickly, don't dawdle and look over your shoulder like the trespasser you are. If you go at night avoid using your light outside the building and don't shine them at the windows once inside (this goes for camera flashes as well). Also, and this is obvious, keep quiet.

As for getting hurt this is always a possibility when it comes to abandonments. The key to avoiding this is to never get complacent. Always keep your eyes open, watch where you walk and always test floors/rungs/steps that look weak before putting your entire weight on them. Even if you become comfortable in the site or visit it several times things can change; buildings decay and those stairs that were hulk-strong last time might collapse beneath you the next time. If you're really concerned about getting hurt then bring a friend. A second pair of eyes is helpful and they'll be there to help if you're injured (bring a fully charged cell phone too, no matter what).

In all actuality you should be fine. Be smart, keep an eye out and stay calm. With time and experience you'll learn the tricks of the trade and you'll become more comfortable with the entire experience of exploring.

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Re: Overcoming fear
<Reply # 14 on 4/17/2013 11:54 AM >
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The more afraid you are, the better you will feel when you overcome it.

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Re: Overcoming fear
<Reply # 15 on 4/17/2013 8:34 PM >
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I should have mentioned this in my last post, but don't overthink things. I know from experience that overthinking things can lead to paranoia, which is not good at all.

It's good to think and worry about things, but don't spend too much time on it because your UE confidence might end up suffering.

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Re: Overcoming fear
<Reply # 16 on 4/17/2013 8:53 PM >
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So I should:

- Use fear to my advantage
- Be careful
- Research more
- Find a partner
- Take things one step at a time
- Don't overthink everything (I am very guilty of this)


Most importantly,
Posted by Shocked
Man up and fucking explore



Thanks for the advice everyone, anything else I should keep in mind while exploring?


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Re: Overcoming fear
<Reply # 17 on 4/17/2013 10:40 PM >
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Posted by Regret


Thanks for the advice everyone, anything else I should keep in mind while exploring?



Never point flashlights at windows...

Uh... I recommend working with a partner who works at your pace. Ghettokumquats and I travel at about the same pace, since we are both photographer/explorers.

It really all lies down to what you are comfortable with.

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Re: Overcoming fear
<Reply # 18 on 4/18/2013 1:38 AM >
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Let somebody know where you're going. Tell a family member where to start looking if you're not back by a certain time.

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Re: Overcoming fear
<Reply # 19 on 4/18/2013 7:52 AM >
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Posted by Regret
So I should:

- Use fear to my advantage
- Be careful
- Research more
- Find a partner
- Take things one step at a time
- Don't overthink everything (I am very guilty of this)

Most importantly,
Posted by Shocked
"Man up and fucking explore"


Thanks for the advice everyone, anything else I should keep in mind while exploring?


Fear? Well you could just man up and explore, as someone else suggested. But "fear" is what will tell you when things are safe or if they are dangerous. Go with you your gut instincts. If you approach a location and shit does not look right then you will know it.

Fear is part of the whole UE/RE'xing scene, although it usually involves the fear of getting caught. Fear is also the drive and the excitement, in most cases.

Fear, the fear that I often feel, is the unknown. Will I fall through the floorboards of that second floor? Will I become seriously injured? If I am on my own, which I always am, how will anyone know where I am? How will I get out if injured? What if squatters, druggies, or people with grow-ops/meth labs are present but I haven't seen them until I'm well into the location?

Fear is going to keep you on your toes and alert: even if it's just worrying about encountering a raccoon. Without the fear of one thing or another, you'd just be walking into a location 'blind as a bat'.

Use your fear/s to your advantage the same as you might use a flashlight in a location you've entered in the dead of the night.

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