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UER Forum > Archived Rookie Forum > How often do full members find areas in the middle of nowhere? (Viewed 1847 times)
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How often do full members find areas in the middle of nowhere?
< on 1/3/2013 5:35 PM >
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I'm interested in hiking, however I want to have an objective to reach while I do my hikes. That's why I'm interested in this website, because I'm interested in going to places like the Meech Lake Ruins and Morrison's Quarry. I've noticed however, that most of the public locations posted are found in the middle of the city, and I'm not interested in that.

How often to full members find ruins and places like these in forests? I'm mostly interested in finding places off in the middle of nowhere that I could hike or kayak to (old mines, quarries, old ruins, etc.).
I'm not asking for any specific locations, I'm just curious if my time would be better spent elsewhere.

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Re: How often do full members find areas in the middle of nowhere?
<Reply # 1 on 1/3/2013 5:38 PM >
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All the time.

They just don't post them in the Database or with location info.

You'll have better luck PMing a member from the region in which you plan to hike, investigating with satellite imagery, or fishing for sites on Flickr.
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Re: How often do full members find areas in the middle of nowhere?
<Reply # 2 on 1/3/2013 5:52 PM >
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Posted by heinrick
All the time.

They just don't post them in the Database or with location info.

You'll have better luck PMing a member from the region in which you plan to hike, investigating with satellite imagery, or fishing for sites on Flickr.


Ah, so even full members don't give details about their locations to other full members?
I guess I'll start checking out satellite images, thanks.
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Re: How often do full members find areas in the middle of nowhere?
<Reply # 3 on 1/3/2013 6:04 PM >
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The locations in the DB are not really based on how urban or rural they are.

Locations that people find are based on how urban or rural the area they live in is, as a rule. I find both because I live in a large state.

So, yes, looking around and finding things like that are definitely worth it. I find some of the best (albeit, often small) locations in very hidden places of the woods.

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Re: How often do full members find areas in the middle of nowhere?
<Reply # 4 on 1/3/2013 7:56 PM >
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I have found some quite amazing places in the middle of nowhere. A good starting point is following railroad tracks, historical documents, or google maps/satellite.

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Re: How often do full members find areas in the middle of nowhere?
<Reply # 5 on 1/3/2013 10:58 PM >
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I'd try satellite imagery, sites and databases on heritage listed and historic sites. Often you'll find quarries, mine sites, homesteads, house foundations, etc in the middle of remote areas that have some historic significance to them though are enough off the beaten path that people either don't visit them or don't bother attempting to post coordinates. I've even found doing a search on eBay, Cardcow or similar for old postcards, then looking up the location has rewarded me with some less-than-traveled locations.

A lot of old military bunkers, batteries, etc also tend to be found river and creekside so take a look into historic battlements and forts in your area, and you may be pleasantly surprised when finding the old site, especially if water access is the best way to go.

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Re: How often do full members find areas in the middle of nowhere?
<Reply # 6 on 1/3/2013 11:25 PM >
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Posted by consecrated
I have found some quite amazing places in the middle of nowhere. A good starting point is following railroad tracks, historical documents, or google maps/satellite.


Posted by hydrotherapy
I'd try satellite imagery, sites and databases on heritage listed and historic sites. Often you'll find quarries, mine sites, homesteads, house foundations, etc in the middle of remote areas that have some historic significance to them though are enough off the beaten path that people either don't visit them or don't bother attempting to post coordinates. I've even found doing a search on eBay, Cardcow or similar for old postcards, then looking up the location has rewarded me with some less-than-traveled locations.

A lot of old military bunkers, batteries, etc also tend to be found river and creekside so take a look into historic battlements and forts in your area, and you may be pleasantly surprised when finding the old site, especially if water access is the best way to go.


Railroad tracks is an awesome idea, I'll definitely do that. Same goes for any bodies of water, though mostly they're just lakes with no current or direction, so I can't follow them too far. Where specifically would you suggest I find historical documents?
I've been trying to use satellite imagery, but the amount of trees in this area makes everything impossible to see. I can't even manage to find places that I know to exist because they're all covered by foliage.

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Re: How often do full members find areas in the middle of nowhere?
<Reply # 7 on 1/4/2013 12:51 AM >
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I salute you. I lost 30 pounds a few years ago (gained it all back) by looking for locations to hike to in the mountains around Los Angeles and beyond. I just hate hiking without destinations to motivate me. It's pretty easy. Just scan local hiking pages in your area. I use localhikes.com but that is just good for the US. I also did 185 miles in 2011 along the C&O canal. Literally half the reason was for the hundreds of ruins spanning over two centuries...Well I can't find my thread at a glance so here is someone else's visit to just a portion: http://www.uer.ca/...urrpage=1&pp#post0 So yeah it's really that simple: read hiking pages.

...okay found it: http://www.uer.ca/...urrpage=1&pp#post0
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Re: How often do full members find areas in the middle of nowhere?
<Reply # 8 on 1/4/2013 1:06 AM >
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A lot a parks over here have stuff in them or near them. Just look at trail names and they tend to be a clue or a start to the puzzle.

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Re: How often do full members find areas in the middle of nowhere?
<Reply # 9 on 1/4/2013 1:22 AM >
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Posted by Arcteryx
Where specifically would you suggest I find historical documents?


You can find old plat maps at courthouses, state/provincial governments, and universities--some even have them even have an electronic library online.

Sanborn fire insurance maps are an absolute goldmine if you can find them for the settlement you're researching.

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Re: How often do full members find areas in the middle of nowhere?
<Reply # 10 on 1/4/2013 3:06 AM >
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Google Maps/Google Earth, Google old newspapers with search words.


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Re: How often do full members find areas in the middle of nowhere?
<Reply # 11 on 1/4/2013 4:46 AM >
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I'm a big fan of old topo maps. For the US they're online in a couple different sites, I'm sure you can find them for Canada too. Look for buildings, mines, or railroads that don't match up with current maps.

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Re: How often do full members find areas in the middle of nowhere?
<Reply # 12 on 1/4/2013 7:38 PM >
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Posted by Arcteryx


Ah, so even full members don't give details about their locations to other full members?
I guess I'll start checking out satellite images, thanks.


I don't think it's about whether someone is a full member or not, it's more about do folks know you and feel that they can trust you with their favorite locations. I know that the caving community is very protective of the locations of their caves. We mine explorers are getting a bit more secretive because mine safety folks often read these forums and target the mines we explore for closure. And there are always the idiots who find their way to a great mine and decide it would be cool to light it on fire.

I'm not suggesting in any way that you would do any of this, but simply trying to explain the level of secrecy with new members. Keep posting and folks will start to open up to you.

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Re: How often do full members find areas in the middle of nowhere?
<Reply # 13 on 1/4/2013 9:29 PM >
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This might be a stupid question but when you guys say "old" historical documents and maps, how old should I be looking? I'm sure it depends on what type of location I'm looking for but are there any time periods you guys have had good luck with?

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Re: How often do full members find areas in the middle of nowhere?
<Reply # 14 on 1/5/2013 5:44 AM >
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The amount of input in this thread is awesome, I'm surprised how active this forum actually is. I'll definitely be posting around, so hopefully I can get my hands on some sweet locations.

Does anybody know what the Canadian equivalent of Sanborn Maps would be? I'm having difficulty finding one.
I've searched some of the Canadian history/Geography databases that my University supplies to me, and that actually helped an unbelievable amount, so thanks to anyone who mentioned that.

Posted by robk700
I can't find my thread at a glance so here is someone else's visit to just a portion: http://www.uer.ca/...urrpage=1&pp#post0 So yeah it's really that simple: read hiking pages.

...okay found it: http://www.uer.ca/...urrpage=1&pp#post0


Some of those areas are EXACTLY what I want .. they look phenomenal. Must've been fun exploring some of those tunnels too haha. Turns out hiking sites have a lot of info, so thanks for that dude!

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Re: How often do full members find areas in the middle of nowhere?
<Reply # 15 on 1/8/2013 12:20 AM >
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Depending on how much effort you want to put into your research, you could go to the local college library and ask the librarian whether they have any old maps of your area. Some universities have extensive historical collections.

I second the recommendation for Google Earth. I often use it in conjunction with topo maps to see if I can find interesting sites to investigate further.

Google Books is a great place to search as well. Be creative in your search parameters.

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Re: How often do full members find areas in the middle of nowhere?
<Reply # 16 on 1/8/2013 4:17 AM >
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Posted by Abby Normal
Google Books is a great place to search as well. Be creative in your search parameters.


Yes, do this!

I found the bible of abandoned mines in Virginia on Google Books, as well a a number of other publications detailing specific mines.

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Re: How often do full members find areas in the middle of nowhere?
<Reply # 17 on 1/8/2013 5:42 AM >
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Anybody find Google Earth/Maps/Street-view is almost too outdated now to find stuff, With the images being quite a few years old.


Unless I'm missing something.

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Re: How often do full members find areas in the middle of nowhere?
<Reply # 18 on 1/8/2013 1:23 PM >
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Posted by Mariachi
Anybody find Google Earth/Maps/Street-view is almost too outdated now to find stuff, With the images being quite a few years old.


Unless I'm missing something.


It depends on what you are looking for. I'm looking for old mines and ghost towns so the fact that the images are a few years old isn't a factor. For other uses, the outdated images could make it nearly useless. YMMV

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Re: How often do full members find areas in the middle of nowhere?
<Reply # 19 on 1/8/2013 1:25 PM >
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Posted by tick


Yes, do this!

I found the bible of abandoned mines in Virginia on Google Books, as well a a number of other publications detailing specific mines.


I've found history about specific mines in the mine journals from the late 1800's and early 1900's. I've also found some books that describe mining techniques from that period. For us mine fans, it's great reading.

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