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UER Forum > Archived Rookie Forum > n00b - Question "Asking for Permission?" (Viewed 2733 times)
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Re: n00b - Question "Asking for Permission?"
<Reply # 40 on 12/4/2012 1:03 PM >
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Posted by McNulty


If it was just some security guard you should have told them to go fuck off and threatened to call the contact your attorney to press charges for unlawful detainment if they refused to let you go.

America got reality stupid since 9/11 and "national security" became an excuse to start moving towards a police state and instituting policies that don't actually matter but make the sheeple feel good. I can get aerial photos of most key infastructure on bing that would have made the KGB cream in their pants 30 years ago. If a terrorist cell is going to fuck us up they are going to fuck us up, just how it is. I hate that this country is treating citizens as though we are living in a war zone.


Couldn't agree more that America has become post 9/11 stupid. And yes, most of these policies are just in place to make people feel secure.

I had planed to attend an outdoor car show that was held shortly after the 9/11 attacks. They first considered cancelling the event, then they decided to go ahead but to require all attendees to present two forms of ID. Volunteers (car club members and their wives) would confirm that everyone had two IDs in hand before they were admitted. Not that they had any sort of database against which to check them. Not that any of the 9/11 attackers couldn't have presented two forms of ID.

However, "just some security guard" may, under some circumstances, actually have authority to detain you. If the business is a government contractor their contract may specify that they must maintain some security procedures. Their guards' authority is limited, but may enable them to enforce specific laws under specific circumstances.

There are also a few private companies whose security staff actually are peace officers. Here in Texas, those include railroads, the NATB (funded by auto insurance companies) and colleges and universities. Some hospitals here are affiliated with university medical schools and their security staff are actually police.



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Re: n00b - Question "Asking for Permission?"
<Reply # 41 on 12/4/2012 1:26 PM >
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A car show? What, do they think you're going to fly your car into the Twin Towers?

Also, everyone knows that most security companies are more heavily Muslim than most Emirates.

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Re: n00b - Question "Asking for Permission?"
<Reply # 42 on 12/4/2012 1:58 PM >
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Posted by Keys


know your rights:
http://content.pho...-of-photographers/


Interesting; thanks for sharing.

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Re: n00b - Question "Asking for Permission?"
<Reply # 43 on 12/9/2012 12:15 AM >
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Thanks for the discussion here as well as the links. A great deal of the last year's photo collection is of industrial facilities of one kind or another, photographed from the roadside, usually at night. We've certainly never crept onto any active properties by dark or otherwise, and so far we've never had any trouble (...minus one car following us out of a Monsanto plant one time and then turning around when we were definitely on the main road) but it's good to know what to keep an eye out for, and have some idea about what could come down the pipe if someone decides to get their manly panties in a twist. Cause honestly, as cool as industrial espionage sounds as a word set, I just like the lights and real spying is a lot of boring, tedious work.

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Re: n00b - Question "Asking for Permission?"
<Reply # 44 on 12/9/2012 1:04 AM >
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I would seriously consider not messing around anywhere near a Monsanto plant. Those buggers are absolutely evil. They want to detain you for even knowing where the plant is, and will confront you even on a public roadway. Heck, they even go after farmers for copyright infringement if some of Monsanto's seeds blow over from a neighboring field. Be careful there. You're playing with fire.

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Re: n00b - Question "Asking for Permission?"
<Reply # 45 on 12/9/2012 2:17 AM >
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Oh yes! As soon as I saw the sign when we were driving by, we proceeded with the immediate and pressing knowledge of a: place we are most likely to get arrested even without getting out of my car and b: place that zombies are most likely to come pouring out of. We've only been by it on a road that goes straight past the length of the plant and on to other stuff, and we haven't lingered long.

And then we drove over the steep gravel rise just PAST the factory and dropped sharply into SILENT HILL seriously creepiest little stilted shanty town I have ever seen in my life. o.o It's pretty weird.

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Re: n00b - Question "Asking for Permission?"
<Reply # 46 on 12/25/2012 4:12 PM >
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i've started to ask for permission at places more recently. only the places that are seriously locked down or are known for high security.

a lot of the better places i have been to have been locked down with security patrols. i have general liability insurance, and providing this and signing a waiver has gotten me into some of the best places i've seen. also these places are trashed with horrible graffiti.

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Re: n00b - Question "Asking for Permission?"
<Reply # 47 on 12/30/2012 11:12 PM >
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I also gained access (to a low-stakes place) by offering to sign a waiver once.

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