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 Weirdlig
   
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< on 5/6/2012 7:28 PM >
|  | | | I assume this is a rights of passage for alot of explorers--I did HDRs obsessively for some time and now I'm sick of both what a pain in the ass they are to create and how they butcher some shots. I tried to be civil--I did everything I could to give a slight touch just to get some added detail. But they bit the hand I was feeding them with in this set especially.
So I deleted the HDRs and started fresh editing the raw files. Comment and critique wanted, this seems to be the right path [although some macros are good with HDR] and I want to get better at it.
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I'm encountering issues with severe noise in darker areas. Windows are the main reason I chose HDRs--they seemed to [at times] do well to balance the dynamic range. But I'm struggling with raws on that. 2, for example, is only sepia because the lightness and saturation of the forest came out terrible--unfixable even with ages of curve work, burning, and saturation play.
What do you guys do when you edit raw?
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hydrotherapy
    
Clever Girl
Location: Circle of Least Confusion
RPS is inside all of us
| |  | Re: Dropping the HDR crutch
<Reply # 1 on 5/6/2012 7:32 PM >
| | | | Are you bracketing your shots or trying to get an even exposure out of raw editing just a single exposure?
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dsankt
Location: live and in the fresh
| |  | | Re: Dropping the HDR crutch
<Reply # 2 on 5/6/2012 7:34 PM >
| | | | Bah, who needs exposure anyway.
Focus bracketing and merging is where it's at anyway.
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Weirdlig
Gender: Female
| | Re: Dropping the HDR crutch
<Reply # 3 on 5/6/2012 8:24 PM >
| | | | No bracketing in these, in some of them I liked the blown out look so long as the sill was intact. But if say I do want a perfect in and out the window shot, it's back to bracket and blending? Funny--I ditched that for HDRs first.
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dsankt
Location: live and in the fresh
| | | | Re: Dropping the HDR crutch
<Reply # 4 on 5/6/2012 8:30 PM >
| | | | Posted by dsankt
Bah, who needs exposure anyway.
Focus bracketing and merging is where it's at anyway.
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COMPOSITION BRACKETING FTW.
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hydrotherapy
Clever Girl
Location: Circle of Least Confusion
RPS is inside all of us
| | | Re: Dropping the HDR crutch
<Reply # 5 on 5/6/2012 8:31 PM >
| | | | Bracketing and blending, is the only way (in my opinion, and I get paid big monies to do this for a living) to do such things.
You may need to practice your technique, and you may need to find what you feel 'works' visually, but really... honestly, unless you're working with some of the highest end cameras right now, you can't get what you want out of a single digital exposure.
Well, I mean, you can (I'm looking at you, 5D mkIII and Nikon D800). But you'd actually to get a palatable image still need to process the raw image twice and manually, in bits and pieces, combine the results, still.
So yeah. Bracket. Blend. Work on your processing, then begin to work on your blend. You can't flatten an image too much (example: expose a general bright room at 0 then stop down for a window to -3 stops so it also looks even) and combine them because you'll result with just as flat and toneless an image as HDR will give you.
But you'll have more leeway and you won't get noise in your darks if you properly expose an exposure for the darks. And you can always tap down opacity on a "light" (window) area of a pasted blend, until it looks aesthetically and realistically pleasing. You can never make it darker though if you didn't capture the information first.
So sally forth, bracket, and play. And maybe invest in a small tablet, for extra fun.
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ahhntzville
Location: Boston
| | Re: Dropping the HDR crutch
<Reply # 6 on 5/7/2012 12:27 AM >
| | | | Your Photofuckit bandwidth has been exceeded, can't see the shots. Isn't the bandwidth thing monthly? It's only the 6th, haha.
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Weirdlig
Gender: Female
| | Re: Dropping the HDR crutch
<Reply # 7 on 5/7/2012 3:27 PM >
| | | | What the fuck? I just deleted a ton of photos and still have to upgrade to shitbag full photobucket. Seriously? I have 38 cents for the rest of the week, just fuck you.
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hydrotherapy
Clever Girl
Location: Circle of Least Confusion
RPS is inside all of us
| | | Re: Dropping the HDR crutch
<Reply # 8 on 5/7/2012 3:30 PM >
| | | | Posted by Weirdling
What the fuck? I just deleted a ton of photos and still have to upgrade to shitbag full photobucket. Seriously? I have 38 cents for the rest of the week, just fuck you.
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Use picasa?
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broaddaylight
Location: new joisey
Gender: Female
thats me on the left, notice how im eye level with his man meat
| | Re: Dropping the HDR crutch
<Reply # 10 on 5/7/2012 3:40 PM >
| | | | Posted by Weirdling
What the fuck? I just deleted a ton of photos and still have to upgrade to shitbag full photobucket. Seriously? I have 38 cents for the rest of the week, just fuck you.
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Would you like any mustard or mayonnaise on that FAIL sandwich? Chips, Doritos or a drink to go with it?
Steal only whatever you can run with comfortably and leave no footprints
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canard
Location: CA
Gender: Male
| | Re: Dropping the HDR crutch
<Reply # 12 on 5/10/2012 8:36 AM >
| | | | Posted by Weirdling
I assume this is a rights of passage for alot of explorers--I did HDRs obsessively for some time and now I'm sick of both what a pain in the ass they are to create and how they butcher some shots. I tried to be civil--I did everything I could to give a slight touch just to get some added detail. But they bit the hand I was feeding them with in this set especially.
So I deleted the HDRs and started fresh editing the raw files. Comment and critique wanted, this seems to be the right path [although some macros are good with HDR] and I want to get better at it.
I'm encountering issues with severe noise in darker areas. Windows are the main reason I chose HDRs--they seemed to [at times] do well to balance the dynamic range. But I'm struggling with raws on that. 2, for example, is only sepia because the lightness and saturation of the forest came out terrible--unfixable even with ages of curve work, burning, and saturation play.
What do you guys do when you edit raw?
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The problem is you seem to be shooting in the middle of the day, when the light is shit for this sort of thing.
Your images are missing the shadows and textures you'd get from the directional light around sunrise or sunset. The tonal range is much more manageable around those times too.
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Weirdlig
Gender: Female
| | Re: Dropping the HDR crutch
<Reply # 13 on 5/10/2012 11:00 PM >
| | | | Posted by canard
The problem is you seem to be shooting in the middle of the day, when the light is shit for this sort of thing.
Your images are missing the shadows and textures you'd get from the directional light around sunrise or sunset. The tonal range is much more manageable around those times too.
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Thanks for this advice. I just shot some exteriors after work out of bordeom, maybe about four thirty. They look just fine.
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canard
Location: CA
Gender: Male
| | Re: Dropping the HDR crutch
<Reply # 14 on 5/11/2012 1:46 AM >
| | | | No prob, good luck!
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micro
Gender: Male
Slowly I turned
| | Re: Dropping the HDR crutch
<Reply # 16 on 5/12/2012 4:50 PM >
| | | | All I can see is that awful watermark you added using some font from 1987.
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RunkPock
Location: Vancouver
Gender: Male
| | Re: Dropping the HDR crutch
<Reply # 17 on 5/13/2012 1:38 AM >
| | | | Posted by micro
font from 1987.
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hahaha
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RunkPock
Location: Vancouver
Gender: Male
| | Re: Dropping the HDR crutch
<Reply # 18 on 5/13/2012 1:39 AM >
| | | | Posted by micro
font from 1987.
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hahaha
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Weirdlig
Gender: Female
| | Re: Dropping the HDR crutch
<Reply # 19 on 5/13/2012 6:05 PM >
| | | | I realize how horrific the watermark is, planning to find a better method for the next series of photos. Looking at the flickrs around me, I'm now finding that no one else is even watermarking at all...which seems a bit foolish. Need a middle ground between the none and my horrific.
Also--1987? Source!?
Posted by Crawnorder
hahaha
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Did you have to laugh twice?
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