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 BeowulfBrower
  
Location: Mendota, IL
Gender: Male
Profession Tetanus Shot Receiver
 |  | In addition to discovering my immunity to Nettles...
< on 4/24/2012 1:25 AM >
|  | | | I seem to have stumbled onto some mines (at least I think they are) in the middle of the woods. Sadly, I wasn't equipped for it (no way to check oxygen, no rope, no backup lights).
They're cut into s cliff (See pic). Inside in HUGE. The ceilings are only about 5 feet high, but it goes on forever and a day. How would I go about dating it or finding out what it was used for?
[last edit 4/24/2012 1:37 AM by BeowulfBrower - edited 1 times]
Is that snow or asbestos? |
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SuchundFind
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Gender: Male
| | Re: In addition to discovering my immunity to Nettles...
<Reply # 1 on 4/24/2012 1:35 AM >
| | | | What picture?
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BeowulfBrower
Location: Mendota, IL
Gender: Male
Profession Tetanus Shot Receiver
| | Re: In addition to discovering my immunity to Nettles...
<Reply # 2 on 4/24/2012 1:37 AM >
| | | | Posted by SuchundFind
What picture?
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Fix'd
(Thank you for noticing that)
Is that snow or asbestos? |
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Spiritwalker
Location: Canada
Gender: Female
What is the difference between exploring and being lost?"
| | Re: In addition to discovering my immunity to Nettles...
<Reply # 3 on 4/24/2012 1:44 AM >
| | | | Posted by BeowulfBrower
Fix'd
(Thank you for noticing that)
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you're lucky you are immune to nettles..nasty buggers
“Develop a built-in bullshit detector.”Ernest Hemingway
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TexasMike
  
Location: DFW Metroplex
Gender: Male
Have Camera Will Explore
| |  | Re: In addition to discovering my immunity to Nettles...
<Reply # 4 on 4/24/2012 2:24 AM >
| | | | Posted by BeowulfBrower
I seem to have stumbled onto some mines (at least I think they are) in the middle of the woods. Sadly, I wasn't equipped for it (no way to check oxygen, no rope, no backup lights).
They're cut into s cliff (See pic). Inside in HUGE. The ceilings are only about 5 feet high, but it goes on forever and a day. How would I go about dating it or finding out what it was used for?
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Well, if they are actual mines you will usually find some kind of man-made constructions around the outside and immediately inside to show it was a worked hole. If those things are evident, you can use the internet to look up the location (via GPS coordinates) on one of the several mine registers that exist. At least if it was worked in the last 75 or so years.
If you can't find any direct evidence of man-made construction around it, you can generally tell if it was a mine by the hole itself, angular walls and floors. Non-rock braces (wood or metal) and such.
You'd be surprised how many actual cave systems look like mines, and the number of uncharted cave systems is beyond count.
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Harvestman
Location: Somewhere in SORTA/TANK Territory!
Gender: Male
Everything about me has a poker face.
| | | Re: In addition to discovering my immunity to Nettles...
<Reply # 5 on 4/24/2012 2:59 AM >
| | | | Posted by BeowulfBrower
I seem to have stumbled onto some mines
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If you literally stumbled upon a mine, you'd blow up. Is this a war zone, by chance?
Oh good, my slow clap processor made it into this thing.
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Joel
RED DRAGONS!!!!
Location: Katy, TX
Gender: Male
Chilling on a wall
| | Re: In addition to discovering my immunity to Nettles...
<Reply # 6 on 4/24/2012 3:09 AM >
| | | | I say they are just caves. Those are so much fun.  But don't believe me.... 
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barefootpoetry
Location: PA
Gender: Female
| | | Re: In addition to discovering my immunity to Nettles...
<Reply # 7 on 4/24/2012 3:50 AM >
| | | | They just look like caves to me. Which are still awesome. I'd like to see pics of what it looks like inside if possible.
(and don't bank on that immunity forever...I've been immune to poison ivy for the past ten years and it's just now gone away. It's been a very itchy spring.)
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Captain_Slow
The infamous Buttram Manfist
Location: Dallas, Tx
Gender: Male
Obviously capable of mediocre things.
| | Re: In addition to discovering my immunity to Nettles...
<Reply # 8 on 4/24/2012 4:31 AM >
| | | | Posted by HarvestmanMan
If you literally stumbled upon a mine, you'd blow up. Is this a war zone, by chance?
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BeowulfBrower
Location: Mendota, IL
Gender: Male
Profession Tetanus Shot Receiver
| | Re: In addition to discovering my immunity to Nettles...
<Reply # 9 on 4/24/2012 9:27 PM >
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Well, if they are actual mines you will usually find some kind of man-made constructions around the outside and immediately inside to show it was a worked hole. If those things are evident, you can use the internet to look up the location (via GPS coordinates) on one of the several mine registers that exist. At least if it was worked in the last 75 or so years.
If you can't find any direct evidence of man-made construction around it, you can generally tell if it was a mine by the hole itself, angular walls and floors. Non-rock braces (wood or metal) and such.
You'd be surprised how many actual cave systems look like mines, and the number of uncharted cave systems is beyond count. |
Well, from what I saw inside, there was a panoply of bricks and some railroad ties sitting on their ends. They were sandwiched between the floor and the ceiling (which didn't have many cracks!) There we also some metal bits jammed into the walls near the ceiling/some drilled looking holes.
If anyone knows where to research this, it's in NW Utica, IL.
Is that snow or asbestos? |
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Keaven
Location: 15 miles from the Grassy Knoll
Gender: Male
| |  | Re: In addition to discovering my immunity to Nettles...
<Reply # 10 on 4/25/2012 11:31 AM >
| | | | Posted by BeowulfBrower
If anyone knows where to research this, it's in NW Utica, IL.
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I have access to a special resource known as "Google".
A quick search of "Utica IL caves", found this:
"The Pecumsaugan Creek area has beautiful dolomite cliffs, dolomite prairie, upland forest, floodplain forest and savanna communities of the Grand Prairie Natural Division. The preserve is best known for the large abandoned limestone mine and its colonies of bats. Blackball Mine is one of the largest bat hibernacula in Illinois."
http://dnr.state.i...es/area3/pecls.htm
It is West of North Utica. Is that the area you are looking for?
In addition to Blackball Mine, Starved Rock comes up in my search.
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BeowulfBrower
Location: Mendota, IL
Gender: Male
Profession Tetanus Shot Receiver
| | Re: In addition to discovering my immunity to Nettles...
<Reply # 11 on 4/26/2012 2:35 AM >
| | | | Posted by Keaven
"The Pecumsaugan Creek area has beautiful dolomite cliffs, dolomite prairie, upland forest, floodplain forest and savanna communities of the Grand Prairie Natural Division. The preserve is best known for the large abandoned limestone mine and its colonies of bats. Blackball Mine is one of the largest bat hibernacula in Illinois."
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I was a few miles east of there, but I had considered it. Could they possibly be linked to the main mine (Which the DNR sealed up)?
Is that snow or asbestos? |
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Gunner Trees
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Location: MSP
Gender: Male
DISCRETION IS A CHOICE
| | Re: In addition to discovering my immunity to Nettles...
<Reply # 12 on 4/26/2012 2:53 AM >
| | | | Let us know what you find when you go back.
I doubt you need to worry about oxygen, but I have no idea because that picture isn't enough for anyone to draw any conclusions from without actually physically being at the location. But in my experience, I've only run into air issues in sewers, confined spaces and just reopened caves that sat for decades with no air flow until just opened. You will be able to tell if there is low oxygen, it will be hard to breathe, just leave if that happens. If you can feel air flow at that POE, it's probably fine.
[last edit 4/26/2012 3:05 AM by Gunner Trees - edited 1 times]
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dallas
Location: seattle
Gender: Female
So long and thanks for all the fish
| | | Re: In addition to discovering my immunity to Nettles...
<Reply # 13 on 4/26/2012 1:48 PM >
| | | | Ok im gonna out right say it and risk looks stupid.... what the hell are nettles??
amazing wife to Narf. Don't look him up or ill cut you. |
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Spiritwalker
Location: Canada
Gender: Female
What is the difference between exploring and being lost?"
| | Re: In addition to discovering my immunity to Nettles...
<Reply # 14 on 4/26/2012 2:35 PM >
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Posted by dallas1983
Ok im gonna out right say it and risk looks stupid.... what the hell are nettles??
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Nettles are a very unassuming tall plant with very robust foliage. The plant has many hollow stinging hairs called trichomes on its leaves and stems, which act like hypodermic needles, injecting histamine and other chemicals that produce a stinging sensation when contacted by humans and other animals.They grow very tall and produce small purple flowers at the top of the plant
If you do come in contact with them,wash the affected area immediatly with warm water and mild soap.If out exploring and you don't have access to water,spit on the area,saliva neutralizes the chemicals
In other words STAY AWAY FROM THEM
[last edit 4/26/2012 2:37 PM by Spiritwalker - edited 2 times]
“Develop a built-in bullshit detector.”Ernest Hemingway
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dallas
Location: seattle
Gender: Female
So long and thanks for all the fish
| | | Re: In addition to discovering my immunity to Nettles...
<Reply # 15 on 4/26/2012 5:15 PM >
| | | | Lol good to know! Look nasty!
amazing wife to Narf. Don't look him up or ill cut you. |
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Spiritwalker
Location: Canada
Gender: Female
What is the difference between exploring and being lost?"
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<Reply # 16 on 4/26/2012 8:04 PM >
| | | | Posted by dallas1983
Lol good to know! Look nasty!
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One year we had them growing in ou backyard and I knew what they were,but asked hubby to go and pull em out,well he did BAREHANDED.his poor hand arm were on fire,does that make me a mean person?
“Develop a built-in bullshit detector.”Ernest Hemingway
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BeowulfBrower
Location: Mendota, IL
Gender: Male
Profession Tetanus Shot Receiver
| | Re: In addition to discovering my immunity to Nettles...
<Reply # 17 on 4/26/2012 8:33 PM >
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| In other words STAY AWAY FROM THEM |
They can also be good tea/a substitute for spinach (Gotta boil the poison off)
Is that snow or asbestos? |
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BeowulfBrower
Location: Mendota, IL
Gender: Male
Profession Tetanus Shot Receiver
| | Re: In addition to discovering my immunity to Nettles...
<Reply # 19 on 4/26/2012 8:42 PM >
| | | | It looks useful, but I cant seem to find the images on maps anywhere :/
Is that snow or asbestos? |
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