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BUSTED: The Citizen's Guide to Surviving a Police Encounter
< on 3/14/2012 10:15 PM >
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This may have been posted before, but it has been a long time and I think a regular refresher on this information is a good thing. It's easy to forget at the best of times, and even easier in a high stress situation. I try to re-watch this video about once every six months. This is some of the most important information you can learn as an explorer. It is WELL worth the 45 minutes. Even though the acting is terrible.

http://www.youtube...atch?v=yqMjMPlXzdA


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Re: BUSTED: The Citizen's Guide to Surviving a Police Encounter
<Reply # 1 on 3/14/2012 10:48 PM >
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good post man, very helpful.. that first "pull over" looks all too familiar lol


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Re: BUSTED: The Citizen's Guide to Surviving a Police Encounter
<Reply # 2 on 3/14/2012 11:21 PM >
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Yea, that's a great video and a must watch.

Haters gonna hate, at least know your rights.

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Re: BUSTED: The Citizen's Guide to Surviving a Police Encounter
<Reply # 3 on 3/14/2012 11:47 PM >
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"That was like some jedi mind trick man!" Hahaha

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Re: BUSTED: The Citizen's Guide to Surviving a Police Encounter
<Reply # 4 on 3/15/2012 5:05 AM >
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I'm gonna start smoking pot just to be able to try this stuff out!

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Re: BUSTED: The Citizen's Guide to Surviving a Police Encounter
<Reply # 5 on 3/15/2012 7:51 AM >
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The guy who drove the car in the first scenario had teeth way too white to be a pot smoker


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Re: BUSTED: The Citizen's Guide to Surviving a Police Encounter
<Reply # 6 on 3/15/2012 12:42 PM >
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I still think that this is the best video ever created for dealing with the police:



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Re: BUSTED: The Citizen's Guide to Surviving a Police Encounter
<Reply # 7 on 3/15/2012 2:46 PM >
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Good refresher, I had a political science professor in college who gave us two full on lectures, regarding how to dealing with cops.



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Re: BUSTED: The Citizen's Guide to Surviving a Police Encounter
<Reply # 8 on 3/16/2012 4:08 AM >
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Both videos embedded here are excellent and good points to keep in mind.

The 2nd had some surprises as to interview methods and court reality.



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Re: BUSTED: The Citizen's Guide to Surviving a Police Encounter
<Reply # 9 on 3/28/2012 3:05 AM >
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Re: BUSTED: The Citizen's Guide to Surviving a Police Encounter
<Reply # 10 on 3/28/2012 6:14 AM >
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Here's a great guide for Canadians.

www.cleo.on.ca/eng...minal/polpower.pdf

Adobe format.

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Re: BUSTED: The Citizen's Guide to Surviving a Police Encounter
<Reply # 11 on 3/28/2012 6:42 AM >
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Posted by Sapper



The best video ever on how to deal with the police.

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Re: BUSTED: The Citizen's Guide to Surviving a Police Encounter
<Reply # 12 on 12/11/2012 1:01 AM >
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Posted by Sapper



Awesome,

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Re: BUSTED: The Citizen's Guide to Surviving a Police Encounter
<Reply # 13 on 12/11/2012 1:45 AM >
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When it all boils down to it, it doesn't really matter. You may be able to beat the ticket or charge, but you can never beat the ride.

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Re: BUSTED: The Citizen's Guide to Surviving a Police Encounter
<Reply # 14 on 12/30/2012 3:02 AM >
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Posted by DJ Craig
This may have been posted before, but it has been a long time and I think a regular refresher on this information is a good thing. It's easy to forget at the best of times, and even easier in a high stress situation. I try to re-watch this video about once every six months. This is some of the most important information you can learn as an explorer. It is WELL worth the 45 minutes. Even though the acting is terrible.


If that cop was smart he would have arrested them for speeding, then performed a search incident to arrest (i.e. of the vehicle) to uncover the marijuana, then charged them with possession. At least under Canadian law, this would work -- I don't know how it translates to American law.

However, the case R. v. Mann found that an officer upon detention (but not upon arrest, then the officer could do the aforementioned) may only perform a search of the immediate area to ensure security of his person. In the situation in the beginning of the video, based on the case R. v. Mann, if the cop had detained them, but not arrested them (assuming he could not charge them with speeding, but just wanted to fuck with them), and he searched the vehicle without consent, finding the marijuana, it would violate a reasonable expectation of privacy afforded to the driver that his backpack would not be opened, and the charges would be thrown out.

Not really sure if I'm making any sense whatsoever. Also, I am not a lawyer and this isn't legal advice.

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Re: BUSTED: The Citizen's Guide to Surviving a Police Encounter
<Reply # 15 on 1/1/2013 7:19 PM >
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dont get caught.

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Re: BUSTED: The Citizen's Guide to Surviving a Police Encounter
<Reply # 16 on 3/7/2013 10:07 PM >
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when in doubt just remain silent. COMPLETELY SILENT. THERE IS NO FOUL IN THIS TECHNIUE. Let representation speak for you.

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Re: BUSTED: The Citizen's Guide to Surviving a Police Encounter
<Reply # 17 on 3/8/2013 1:28 AM >
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wow, there is some really bad advice in this thread, beginning with the original post.

don't confuse fiction with reality and don't make important decisions based on something you saw on TV. since we're treating speculative youtube scenarios so seriously here, i want to see the version of that video where the guy going 50 in a 30 zone runs over some ten-year-old on a bike.

it always amuses me to see people breaking the law who think they are somehow victims and law enforcement is the enemy. this mindset seems especially prevalent on uer.

yes, it is good to know your rights. it is even more important to know that breaking the law can have consequences. don't get mad at cops just because they caught you breaking the law.

cops deal with the worst people in society all the time. their posture is always high awareness and high vigilance. if they catch you breaking the law, they treat you like someone they caught breaking the law. most cops are highly professional and highly trained to not violate your rights, not just because that is also the law, but because their city bosses cant afford the lawsuits. they aren't perfect and bad apples exist, but these are by far the exception and not the rule.

be an adult. if you break the law and get caught, be OK with the consequences and show some goddamn personal responsibility.

i remember one of craig's other posts about how bad cops are. he and his buddy made a K-9 unit come in after them, because they decided to run and hide when caught instead of surrendering. not knowing what they were dealing with, the cops reasonably did what was necessary to ensure their own safety and used dogs.

bad choices have consequences.

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Re: BUSTED: The Citizen's Guide to Surviving a Police Encounter
<Reply # 18 on 3/8/2013 1:35 AM >
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Posted by ambiandkora
when in doubt just remain silent. COMPLETELY SILENT. THERE IS NO FOUL IN THIS TECHNIUE. Let representation speak for you.


this is awful advice. do you realize you can be arrested for refusing to identify yourself when prompted by an officer?

most cases in this hobby, you can politely talk your way out of it and get sent home with a warning. when you can't, refusing to speak will make it worse.

the key is to speak wisely. i guess if you're too stupid to know how to do that, then you're fucked whether you stay silent or open your mouth -- so pick one.




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Re: BUSTED: The Citizen's Guide to Surviving a Police Encounter
<Reply # 19 on 3/8/2013 7:59 PM >
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I got caught in a semi off limits area of a large seaport near my home recently.

A Coast Guard and a Homeland security vehicle pulled up and told me I was in a secure area and should leave, this was an area near a large abandoned shipyard that is used as a film location over the last decade.

There are a few picnic tables scattered about, I assume this is for film crews to relax and have lunch? I very politely told them, I've been coming to this spot for 20 years, I brought my kids, and later, my grandkids to this spot to sit and watch the ships and port traffic go buy.

The Coast guard and Homeland officers looked at one another, then said, you've been here longer than us....... be careful, and have a nice day.

When I left, they were parked around the corner. I figure they were gonna come back and see if I'd gone thru the fence into the shipyard.

I waved as I went past, they waved back. It could have been so much worse had I postured and told them I pay my taxes, and how they work for me, and so on and so forth.

I learned long ago to pick my battles.

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