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post by mavrix

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Re: Under the Garden City: Victoria B.C. secret tunnels.
<Reply # 440 on 1/7/2006 11:14 PM >

haha, the random references and instults about me humor me! Hehe..

Oh well.. Really, doesnt matter to me. Very interesting new updates and thanks for the pictures!

You guys want adventure? just wait till I drive ther im gonna call all of you and will see who is the brave and meets up with me

hehe

What do you people think is behind these sealed up arches and doors?

Lets think, if its sealed, means it was once open. Yeah I know this is very obvious but we should write it down to get the basics and then try to figure out other theories.

So,

If the window or arch used to be open, it means ther used to be some entrance, door, or pathway or view, to have a use for the once opend holes.

Potentially, behind these closed holes ther is

A. entrance
B. Window
C. doorway
D. nothing/filled in

Now, why are they sealed up?

If so many around the city are sealed up, owned by private individuals, its not really possible they were all sealed to remain secret. So that is out.

The most logical reason is safety or even the city said they arent safe to hide them. or some or all are actually unsafe tunnels.

Hmm.

if they are not safe, its possible because they network to other locations and or are long tunnels.

Now if the city denies any tunnels, so we heard, who contracted to seal up all or most of these entrances/windows?

Hhm, weird stuff, Victoria dig more into this give me some leads!

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post by KublaKhan

Re: Under the Garden City: Victoria B.C. secret tunnels.
<Reply # 441 on 1/8/2006 8:01 PM >

Post by sabotagehaha.

done what? called kubla a doorknob? indeed I did (or the photo did?). I'm sure our mr. meggaman here was only poking fun about fan tan alley. Besides, my comment was just a friendly elbow in the ribs... no serious offense taken I hope.

Posted by KublaKhan

None taken at all. Though I'd probably feel better about it if you actually posted something that contributed to the thread rather than start by taking the piss out of me.

Ferfucksakes, KK. Did someone hurt your feelings? Man up.

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post by Jester

Re: Under the Garden City: Victoria B.C. secret tunnels.
<Reply # 442 on 1/8/2006 9:07 PM >

Posted by mavrix
You guys want adventure? just wait till I drive ther im gonna call all of you and will see who is the brave and meets up with me

hehe

Satan will be waiting for you at Starbucks.

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post by J Peterman

Re: Under the Garden City: Victoria B.C. secret tunnels.
<Reply # 443 on 1/8/2006 9:18 PM >

You guys want adventure? just wait till I drive ther im gonna call all of you and will see who is the brave and meets up with me hehe

I'm not brave enough, unless I had a few in me, Mavrix.

[last edit 1/8/2006 9:19 PM by J Peterman - edited 1 times]

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post by frugalfinnagan

Re: Under the Garden City: Victoria B.C. secret tunnels.
<Reply # 444 on 1/8/2006 9:33 PM >

Perhaps you can go by the city archives and do some reading to define what is behind those sealed passageways. That would be a lot easier than drilling test holes. And the more research you do the easier it will become because you will find conclusions to rumors that you only can imagine right now. If you know how to read blueprints you will be finding a lot of sweet stuff.
Good Luck
A+O

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post by Gorbalskorp

Re: Under the Garden City: Victoria B.C. secret tunnels.
<Reply # 445 on 1/9/2006 2:11 AM >

Well I don't post here often as I usually don't have anything to add, but I stumbled upon these pictures a little while ago while researching the city. I'm sure some of you have already found them, but if you have not, well then here they are. I figured they might be of some help for The Thing of the Doorstep as long as his building was constructed before the 1880's.

I'm not sure of the store's whereabouts , so there are a bunch of them.

click to view

Keep me posted on your endeavours, and I hope this helps ;)

Cheers

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post by surekill

Re: Under the Garden City: Victoria B.C. secret tunnels.
<Reply # 446 on 1/9/2006 8:24 AM >

Great maps! I wish I could read the finer print though. Where did you find these?

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post by Mowgli-dog

Re: Under the Garden City: Victoria B.C. secret tunnels.
<Reply # 447 on 1/9/2006 8:56 AM >

Or they were covered over and backfilled....

Regardless of what is going on there, personally, if I owned a business with a tantalizing thing like that in the basement, I would be cutting into it too.

Posted by mavrix

The most logical reason is safety or even the city said they arent safe to hide them. or some or all are actually unsafe tunnels.

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post by anvil

Re: Under the Garden City: Victoria B.C. secret tunnels.
<Reply # 448 on 1/9/2006 9:22 AM >

Are those fire insurance maps? What's the date on them?

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post by J Peterman

Re: Under the Garden City: Victoria B.C. secret tunnels.
<Reply # 449 on 1/11/2006 12:56 AM >

Hahaah Gorbalskorp did you take pictures of those fire insurance maps? You're not supposed to bring cameras/recording devices into there. Tisk tisk tisk.

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post by Gorbalskorp

Re: Under the Garden City: Victoria B.C. secret tunnels.
<Reply # 450 on 1/11/2006 5:02 AM >

Posted by anvil
Are those fire insurance maps? What's the date on them?

They are indeed fire insurance maps, which date back to 1885 I believe. I'm relativly new to historical maps, are fire insurance maps quite commonplace in Victoria?

Posted by J Peterman
Hahaah Gorbalskorp did you take pictures of those fire insurance maps? You're not supposed to bring cameras/recording devices into there. Tisk tisk tisk.

Oh contraire, I know better than to bite the hand that feeds me ;)

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post by meggaman

Re: Under the Garden City: Victoria B.C. secret tunnels.
<Reply # 451 on 1/11/2006 5:23 AM >

oops gonna start a new thread,,

[last edit 1/11/2006 5:55 AM by meggaman - edited 2 times]

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post by seicer

Re: Under the Garden City: Victoria B.C. secret tunnels.
<Reply # 452 on 1/11/2006 5:31 AM >

That's a turntable for trains... not some uber-secret passage that was used by Chinese labourers to smuggle ultra-secret nuclear weapons.

[last edit 1/11/2006 5:32 AM by seicer - edited 1 times]

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post by KublaKhan

Re: Under the Garden City: Victoria B.C. secret tunnels.
<Reply # 453 on 1/11/2006 4:53 PM >

Posted by seicer
That's a turntable for trains... not some uber-secret passage that was used by Chinese labourers to smuggle ultra-secret nuclear weapons.

...getting warmer...

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post by meggaman

Re: Under the Garden City: Victoria B.C. secret tunnels.
<Reply # 454 on 1/12/2006 2:02 AM >

shurekill,how are those arborist holes going,,??
hope your not gonna hurt those tunnel oaks,,

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post by Mowgli-dog

Re: Under the Garden City: Victoria B.C. secret tunnels.
<Reply # 455 on 1/16/2006 10:45 AM >

Posted by surekill
So anyway, I went yesterday evening to investigate The Thing on the Doorstep's alleged tunnel entrance. We took some pictures and I'll include two of them here. The entrance/doorway is about 8 feet high and has an arched top made out of brick. We think it is far too large an entrance to be any sort of "coal chute". The concrete seems like it was done within the last 50 years and is very solid. The Thing on the Doorstep also had some photo's in a book from as far back as roughly 1900 showing his building with the street at its current height. We decided that we should drill some test holes in the concrete to see if it is in fact hollow on the other side. It may be a few days before we do this initial test. More to come!

click to view

click to view

So, anything behind that cement?

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post by surekill

Re: Under the Garden City: Victoria B.C. secret tunnels.
<Reply # 456 on 1/16/2006 11:23 AM >

We'll be drilling within the next 2 weeks.

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post by KublaKhan

Re: Under the Garden City: Victoria B.C. secret tunnels.
<Reply # 457 on 1/16/2006 6:44 PM >

Posted by Mowgli-dog

So, anything behind that cement?

Borrowing from Gorbalskorp's contribution here...

[see: detail # 3]

...take a close look at this detail. The spaces indicated that extend beyond the building's foundation are spaces that were used as additional storage. They were part of the building, and part of the property on which the building stood.

Most of these spaces were filled in and sealed 40-50 years ago, when the city decided to bury power lines.

The main level of Market Square has many retail spaces that have these features at their back wall, and appear to cover something that extends INTO Pandora/Johnson St respectively.

Some of these spaces are as they were before the city condemned them, and are open and vacant. Most are not.

They MAY be connected via a long corridor that runs up Pandora/Johnson St.

And I just got off the phone with a woman who works closely with Victoria's homeless community, and she's going to show me the tunnel (pay attention here, Jester) where these people...mostly men...find shelter.

[last edit 1/16/2006 10:25 PM by KublaKhan - edited 1 times]

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post by Jester

Re: Under the Garden City: Victoria B.C. secret tunnels.
<Reply # 458 on 1/16/2006 6:44 PM >

Posted by KublaKhan
And I just got off the phone with a woman who works closely with Victoria's homeless community, and she's going to show me the tunnel (pay attention here, Jester) where these people...mostly men...find shelter.

Show me the money...

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post by J Peterman

Re: Under the Garden City: Victoria B.C. secret tunnels.
<Reply # 459 on 1/16/2006 10:05 PM >

Juicy

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